Cristiano Ronaldo: Set to leave by mutual agreement

[RedDevil@84]

What’s the heck of this? Mind blowing really. No, it’s nuclear nonsense bomb explosion.

Who are all these new posters?

 

[sglowrider]

The Glazers probably don't realise Phil is at the club, they could pass him on the street and not realise who he is even though he's been with us for 11 years

 

[RedRonaldo]

That's not name calling mate, not even close

Not much difference there, it’s just like saying your name looks stupid here therefore what you said can be totally ignored.

 

[city-puma]

Who are all these new posters?

Reality deniers from parallel universe I guess.

 

[SirMonteyne]

Players? you mean one player? That's just extrapolating evidence based on what one person said.

I mean we all know there's a lot going on behind the curtains. It's been like this since SAF retired, if Ronaldo thinks Richard Arnold is the president of the club the most powerful one then I am sure lots of players thought Ed Woodward was the man, not Jose and Van Gaal. Managers can't get enough respect from players just because knowing there's someone else at the top, tensions between players and managers will keep happening.

I would not be surprised if some high-profile players met Ed (a non-football-related person) behind the managers, it just seems all wrong. Now we have DOF on paper, but our current DOF never speaks publically. He has either no power at all or the board chose the most uncompetitive person for this role. I expected our so-called DOF publically punish Ronaldo or at least explain the situation after the Spurs game.

If we want a smooth run like a proper football club, we have to create a football environment where no player ever needs to know the CEO's phone number or feel pressure or expect empathy from the former-accountant CEO.

 

[kouroux]

I have come to the conclusion that the people who are in support of the notion he's been mistreated by Utd, actually don't watch our games. Even last season when he was scoring, it was at the detriment of the team and his decline as a player was already visible.
This Ronaldo situation is actually a fairly easy way to see who's been watching Man Utd games extensively or not

 

[Jippy]

Plain old regular 'fans' isn't nearly accurate enough of a characterisation though so doesn't work. It's about rabid devotion to a global superstar/brand - like @amolbhatia50k said, if fanboyism isn't to your liking, you're down to terms like cultist and the like which are much less appropriate.

Fan stems from fanatic, even if it's meaning has been watered down over the years. The fanboy term is immensely tedious, put I'm pissing in the wind objecting to it.

 

[Strelok]

Who are all these new posters?

Paid 'fans' from some PR companies is my bet. It's kinda difficult to come to that level of nonsense even for his most deluded fans. They've been quiet for a while after he got his starts but now he doesn't so here we're again.

 

[amolbhatia50k]

Fan stems from fanatic, even if it's meaning has been watered down over the years. The fanboy term is immensely tedious, put I'm pissing in the wind objecting to it.

Actually the term isn't tedious but the indulgence in it is.

 

[Jippy]

Actually the term isn't tedious but the indulgence in it is.

Maybe both are.

 

[amolbhatia50k]

Maybe both are.

But not really.

 

[That_Bloke]

What a fecking disaster signing. Woodward had done irreparable damage to this club.

When you have ABU fans defend United on this case, you know Ronaldo is a right cnut.

You can say it again. He's basically United's Bartomeu and the main architect of your club's downfall. Ronaldo was his last poisoned gift and I'm fairly certain even Ole didn't want him.

 

[Foxbatt]

I mean we all know there's a lot going on behind the curtains. It's been like this since SAF retired, if Ronaldo thinks Richard Arnold is the president of the club the most powerful one then I am sure lots of players thought Ed Woodward was the man, not Jose and Van Gaal. Managers can't get enough respect from players just because knowing there's someone else at the top, tensions between players and managers will keep happening.

I would not be surprised if some high-profile players met Ed (a non-football-related person) behind the managers, it just seems all wrong. Now we have DOF on paper, but our current DOF never speaks publically. He has either no power at all or the board chose the most uncompetitive person for this role. I expected our so-called DOF publically punish Ronaldo or at least explain the situation after the Spurs game.

If we want a smooth run like a proper football club, we have to create a football environment where no player ever needs to know the CEO's phone number or feel pressure or expect empathy from the former-accountant CEO.

Correct.

 

[Luka Mora]

I'm not one to lecture people on what they should and shouldn't discuss but why the feck has this thread got well over 100 pages? We're playing Piers Morgan's game for him here. Ronaldo was a world class player worth accommodating in any squad, now he isn't and he's decided to create a media circus around himself that, barb at the Glazers notwithstanding, is not in the interests of this club, its current staff and its fans.

'If you don't like the thread, don't post', is fair advice but I'm absolutely sick of any and all news lines in the aftermath of a pretty cool last minute winner from a promising young player being dominated by this fecking horseshit. feck off Ronaldo, feck off Morgan.

Couldn't agree more.

If it this was a star player who was leading the line pulling up trees saving our bacon and pushing our charge towards rebuilding it would be a big bombshell.

The fact it's a 38 year old striker who's scored 1 league goal in 10 games where it's statistically a fact we are better without him in the team, the only thing this interview shows is how detrimental he is to the club both on the pitch and off the pitch. He's more than a liability, but actually virus that needs quarantining until we can find the cure on how to get rid of it before it spreads to do even more damage

 

[Fridge chutney]

It's definitely a united thing. Not just Liverpool but the likes of Hesselbaink, Keown do not publicly slate Chelsea and Arsenal and their players respectively. I want to see our legends back the manager, players etc.

This isn't remotely true.

 

[colombianmancunian]

Viva Ronaldo, running out of here!

I stood by him before, I admire his career, I justified his failings. But this has been too much. Ronaldo is just a toxic waste of space at the club. He is better off. Toxic personality, lackluster performances, incapable of playing at elite level consistently. Go away.

Although to be fair, he has valid points such as the lack of updating of the facilities and the failed RR experiment.

Seeing this as blessing in disguise, maybe this will force United to buy a striker in January.

 

[Red Company]

I just can’t grasp how some of you even voted for the last option!?

Haveeeee to be the rival fans.

 

[devilish]

I just can’t grasp how some of you even voted for the last option!?

Haveeeee to be the rival fans.

Rio, Keane and Evra are in the house

 

[suheilsworld]

I'm not one to lecture people on what they should and shouldn't discuss but why the feck has this thread got well over 100 pages? We're playing Piers Morgan's game for him here. Ronaldo was a world class player worth accommodating in any squad, now he isn't and he's decided to create a media circus around himself that, barb at the Glazers notwithstanding, is not in the interests of this club, its current staff and its fans.

'If you don't like the thread, don't post', is fair advice but I'm absolutely sick of any and all news lines in the aftermath of a pretty cool last minute winner from a promising young player being dominated by this fecking horseshit. feck off Ronaldo, feck off Morgan.

I have been a United supporter since the 70s. My favourite player back then was Gordon McQueen then Robbo and finally Cantona. There has never been a shadow of a doubt that those mentioned players loves United. Ronaldo only loves himself and United was always a stepping stone to his career, which is fine.
But don't be fooled into thinking that he values United any more than say Sporting or RM. They are only tools for his financial objectives.

It always boggles my mind why he has so many millions of followers on social media.

It's not like he has anything interesting to say. Vacuous at worst or insipid at best. It's all about his botox-ed face or body. So it makes you wonder about his 'followers'.... not that there is anything wrong with that.

I have come to the conclusion that the people who are in support of the notion he's been mistreated by Utd, actually don't watch our games. Even last season when he was scoring, it was at the detriment of the team and his decline as a player was already visible.
This Ronaldo situation is actually a fairly easy way to see who's been watching Man Utd games extensively or not

Couldn't agree more.

If it this was a star player who was leading the line pulling up trees saving our bacon and pushing our charge towards rebuilding it would be a big bombshell.

The fact it's a 38 year old striker who's scored 1 league goal in 10 games where it's statistically a fact we are better without him in the team, the only thing this interview shows is how detrimental he is to the club both on the pitch and off the pitch. He's more than a liability, but actually virus that needs quarantining until we can find the cure on how to get rid of it before it spreads to do even more damage

Yes, yes, yes, yes!!!! Completely agree with the above. His statements against former players and managers have been pathetic. Also the fact that he says we wont be winning any trophies in the next 2-3 years - hope this drives the current players to prove him wrong and rub it in his plastic face!

 

[McGrathsipan]

If anything United ought to sue him for reputational damages to the club.

What damages?
The burden of proof is on United to prove damage has indeed occurred.

 

[Berbasbullet]

His infant son dying being me of the worst moments of his life. Which no one has an issue with.

but many still sympathise with the club for doubting his intentions him when his 3 month of daughter was subsequently hospitalised just a few month later.

Tells me that the entire interview has run out of legs and the controversial bits have already been released.

 

[sepulturite]

Not much difference there, it’s just like saying your name looks stupid here therefore what you said can be totally ignored.

It's really not, but you do you mate.

 

[sepulturite]

Who are all these new posters?

Ronaldo cultists signing up just to defend their hero

 

[RedRonaldo]

It's really not, but you do you mate.

Whatever suits you. Judging people by their names instead of their argument was lame anyway, that’s my whole point.

 

[sepulturite]

I just can’t grasp how some of you even voted for the last option!?

Haveeeee to be the rival fans.

There are some posters in here if you read through the pages that definitely voted the last option, a couple are even on this last page.

 

[RedRonaldo]

If anything United ought to sue him for reputational damages to the club.

If such case can be easily established in court, I am sure there will be no more football critics left in the sports, which isn’t necessarily a bad thing though.

 

[sepulturite]

Whatever suits you. Judging people by their names instead of their argument was lame anyway, that’s my whole point.

Yeh but all people have to do is look at your username and know which side of the argument your going to fall on, that's all that poster meant. If you want to get offended by that and call it name calling then fair enough, but I don't see it.

 

[GhastlyHun]

That poll
Also, why are votes not public? I need to know who the looneys or trolls are who picked the last one

 

[sepulturite]

That poll
Also, why are votes not public? I need to know who the looneys or trolls are who picked the last one

Yeh same here, I'm itching to know! Although a few are fairly obvious if you read this thread.....

 

[RedRonaldo]

Yeh but all people have to do is look at your username and know which side of the argument your going to fall on, that's all that poster meant. If you want to get offended by that and call it name calling then fair enough, but I don't see it.

You don’t see anything wrong judging people by their names? What next? Nothing wrong judging people by their color as well?

 

[sepulturite]

You don’t see anything wrong judging people by their names? What next? Nothing wrong judging people by their color as well?

Oh jesus really? It's a username on a forum ffs. If someone turned around to me and said Sepultura are shit I'm not going to get all bent out of shape, and definitely wouldn't bring race in to my fecking argument. Get a grip ffs.

 

[RedRonaldo]

Oh jesus really? It's a username on a forum ffs. If someone turned around to me and said Sepultura are shit I'm not going to get all bent out of shape, and definitely wouldn't bring race in to my fecking argument. Get a grip ffs.

So you just don’t care whether or not it’s reasonable. Ok.

 

[Real Name]

Why is this thread 100 pages long?
They say by contributing to this thread themselves.

 

[Luka Mora]

So you just don’t care whether or not it’s reasonable. Ok.

The fact you're getting all bent out of shape over it while pulling up the race card, shows you know that poster is right to judge where you're allegiances lie with

 

[sepulturite]

So you just don’t care whether or not it’s reasonable. Ok.

Sure mate, that's what I'm saying

 

[sepulturite]

The fact you're getting all bent out of shape over it while pulling up the race card, shows you know that poster is right to judge where you're allegiances lie with

Thank you, exactly.

 

[sepulturite]

Why is this thread 100 pages long?
They say by contributing to this thread themselves.

It's mainly because we have weird Ronaldo cultists coming in here still defending him despite everything and can't help but be sucked in to an argument with them that goes on for pages

 

[Unam333]

Two things:

Ronaldo should have played tennis or another solo sport.

Never, ever worship celebrities to the point you name your children after them.

 

[duffer]

Why is this thread 100 pages long?
They say by contributing to this thread themselves.

Click on the "who posted" button and you'll find the biggest culprit.

 

[TheGame]

It's happening because of the club's corporate-like structure and people.
Ronaldo is a very family-oriented person, if something happens to him personally he expects empathy from the people who know the situation.
He had SAF who always had been caring for the players personally, then the Spanish club then the Italian club.

Imagine him talking to Richard Arnold about personal issues, and expecting a return call about his child's condition. It will never happen, that's why we will always have problems with players like him and Pogba and specific players will always feel like they are corporate employees. Unless the club gives more power to the manager and changes John Murtough with a more respected football person.

I can understand why ETH didn't check on him frequently, it just shows his lack of experience. Now he experienced the situation, it's a good thing.
It's sad to see ETH call an "executive meeting" to decide how to punish Ronaldo, it should be completely up to ETH alone.

Good heavens. It’s like arguing with Brexiteers.