Cristiano Ronaldo: Set to leave by mutual agreement

[dks17]

From the clips I was expecting something bad and horrendous, it was not even that bad. Its more childish than anything, he has a massive ego but at least he can justify it having been at the top for 20 years. I dont think the interview was necessary, calling Rooney a rat was immature especially when he said after he dont criticise people but in reality I don't see any gross misconduct, just a spoilt brat with a massive ego. I do love the fact he calls out the glazers. I think after that I hate piers more and as for ronaldo, he's still the goat but you can tell he's a guy that needs to be told all the time that he's is the best. Some people are like that, it is what it is. The ETH part, well he said he dont respect him, he has his own view which I personally don't agree with but if I was in his shoes, maybe I would feel the same. I just hate the fact it dropped at the time it did, it would have been nice for the week headlines to be less about Ronaldo and more about the world Cup and Garnacho last min goal.

you cant see why coming out and doing in interview in which you say you don't respect the current manager might be a problem? especially when your being payed 500k by the club pw to act like a professional. that stuff is the sort of thing you say when you are no longer at the club not a couple of months into a season.

i honestly cant believe the number of people that want brush over the comment on Eth and the club disrespecting him as not too bad. i mean harry maguire gets abused to no end for playing for being crap yet ronaldo can come out and slander the manager, club and his disrespect his team mates and people want to make excuses for him.

if the clubs standards and expectations on behavior mirror the section of our fan base who want to excuse this interview as not so bad then its no wonder the club has slipped to where it is today

 

[Withnail]

A rat…a rat…a rat, a rat, a rat.

 

[Waynne]

The absolute psychotic delusion.

These two smug twats need to be shot with a ball of their own shite.

 

[fallengt]

Brilliant interview. The club is stuck in a time warp and I'm glad he's spilled the beans, it's just a shame most supporters are too blind to see it - take off those red tinted specs!

Ye. United fans are blind.
What were protests in the past 10 years for then? Fred the Red didnt wave at them in the stadium?

_Brilliant, why couldn't we see this?? Viva Ronaldo, the savior.

 

[captaincantona]

thank god this interview is over now so we can close the thread and look forward to seeing who he is gonna blame when his international coach drops him to get the best out of Bruno.

 

[Edwards6]

So, his daughter was in hospital for only one week. How long did he stay away?

About 3 weeks I think, Ten Hag was questioned loads about him in the pre-season press conferences and always stuck up for Ronaldo even after leaving at half time in the last friendly Ten Hag told the press it was others as well not just Ronaldo so I don't know where this disrespect bollocks has come from

 

[r1z3mu]

I can't even describe how I feel about this backstabbing rat.
Here, I said it.

 

[RedOrange]

About 3 weeks I think, Ten Hag was questioned loads about him in the pre-season press conferences and always stuck up for Ronaldo even after leaving at half time in the last friendly Ten Hag told the press it was others as well not just Ronaldo so I don't know where this disrespect bollocks has come from

The 'disrespect' comes from Ronaldo playing poorly but being unable to accept that it's because he's not as good anymore. If he ends up moving to another team in a top 4 league he'll have the same tension with the manager there.

 

[captaincantona]

Actually, this interview shows another level of narcissism altogether and a real lack of respect for his National teammates.

Bruno, Cancelo, Bernardo, Felix, Dias etc. must feel like they have a shot at the title…imagine dropping a purposefully bombshell interview a week before a major tournament - speaking about how you are the number one sportsperson in the world with x million instagram followers. With that in mind, he clearly knows he is Drawing all kinds of unwanted attention to his performances in the National team…his role in the team - if he is taken off or benched…what if Utd responded with their own bombshells about him wanting out and Mendes’s summer tour….or if some sort of back and forth instagram-off ensued and it dragged on into the tournament? What if Bruno and Dalot decided they weren’t happy and it upset the dressing room? What if the other ex players and pundits he trashes decide to bring an unwanted focus on how much he holds Portugal back.

These are All potential and feasible fall out from such a mind bogglingly self centred ego excercise. Did he give it any thought? Does he not owe his team mates the decency to just be part of the team?

 

[Marcus]

Ok I watched Part 2. This is my takeaway. He is using EtH's alleged disrespect to excuse his poor performance which is linked to his lack of motivation because of the disrespect weighing on his mind.

You know, if he was playing well and banging in goals at a phenomenal rate, he could have a case on the disrespect. Because why bench a player who will win you games. The coach must have a vendetta against him.

He is playing crap for United. So everything falls flat. He is not playing because he missed the entire pre-season (people have sick kids, we don't stop going to work) so his fitness was not there. He is old now, so it takes a lot to get his fitness back up. When he was given the opportunity, he has not sparkled but is a liability. He is ill-disciplined (your one job is to play for United on the field and you refuse to come on) and a poor role model.

The fans are asking EtH not to play him (but EtH still does). Ronaldo, stop being deluded. You have burnt your bridges and will not be welcome back to United.

 

[amolbhatia50k]

From the clips I was expecting something bad and horrendous, it was not even that bad. Its more childish than anything, he has a massive ego but at least he can justify it having been at the top for 20 years. I dont think the interview was necessary, calling Rooney a rat was immature especially when he said after he dont criticise people but in reality I don't see any gross misconduct, just a spoilt brat with a massive ego. I do love the fact he calls out the glazers. I think after that I hate piers more and as for ronaldo, he's still the goat but you can tell he's a guy that needs to be told all the time that he's is the best. Some people are like that, it is what it is. The ETH part, well he said he dont respect him, he has his own view which I personally don't agree with but if I was in his shoes, maybe I would feel the same. I just hate the fact it dropped at the time it did, it would have been nice for the week headlines to be less about Ronaldo and more about the world Cup and Garnacho last min goal.

Yeah of course you don't.

 

[Trumpeter Whydah]

Are you ok? I think you have mistaken me for someone else but i would tone down the ad hominem.

Dear Fridge chutney

I did certainly not mistake you, as you and your posts are frankly one big reason why I've been reading here for a while.
If you can give me some rope, please let me explain:

In order:
1. I had quoted you before and asked you for your take on the Ronnie situation.
2. You replied, in #6268, in a concise way, which made me want to do two things: one, I wanted to say thanks, and two, I wanted to underline my thanks by offering you the thoughts that made me oppose the official take in the first place, because I felt sharing this with you was appropriate. Consider it a catharsic thing on my part.
3. So I thanked you for your reply, in 6281. Or let's say intended to do so, as apparently I must have failed hard at expressing what I was intending: trying to explain why I felt the situation looked engineered (even though at that point I was basically convinced by your reply that Ronnie is at fault).

Several lines from that post are indeed either cryptic or otherwise unclear, now that I reread it, but I am confident I can paraphrase them to show you that none of it was meant in an offensive way:

A) "I took the liberty to jump at you"
-> referring to the first time I quoted you to ask you for your take, which you gave. Wanted you to know I was not looking to oppose or call you out in any way.

B) "(How did that go down? Sucker!)"
-> referring to me being concious about being brown-nosed from ass-kissing you in the sentence before. Wanted to express I can agree to pay the price for looking brown-nosed, as long as it makes your day.

C) "typing your effing language"
-> English. That you understood the opposite of what I was intending to say is a case in point, writing English means some effort to me, and I wasn't not up to the task as it seems.

D) "Probably not very smart, but there you go."
-> referring to me having it in me to ask the heretic question: could all of this be staged?

E) "A bit smarter, right?"
-> again referring to me, who this time comes better equiped, with a better argument than above.

These are the passages that I feel could be responsible for reading an ad hominem attack, and it is my hope that you now reconsider.

I am sorry for this. Believe me when I say the very opposite was intended. (To come back to being Swiss, one with no Brits in his entourage: all I'm left with is a list of Brits unknown to me. Ronnie makes the top of this list - O'Sullivan, that is - and a certain James May is number two; number three than is you, Fridge chutney, poster of most finest postings. Now how did that go down, suc...)

PS: You asked if I'm okay, and I think so - so what do you think now, and are we okay?

 

[RedRonaldo]

Iirc, Benzema said he still hasn't heard from Ronaldo about him being player of the year. No congratulations or anything.

I think his teammates defend him because he'll turn on them otherwise, like with Neville.

Yeh I know, it could be just Ronaldo never pick up his phone and congratulate anyone in private on those thing, and Benzema said this in a joking tone too. But they do look genuinely in love when they played against each other back in Euro 20 last year. They seems to always speak highly of each other

 

[Cantonagotmehere]

Ronaldo is gonna go out like Denzel at the end of Training Day 2.

hahahhahaha

 

[Red-17]

I've seen the full interview now, didn't say much that I disagreed with. It's only fair to have his voice heard, I doubt there were many other alternative channels for that.

I'm not a Ronaldo fan boy, I wanted him out before this but you have to respect his knowledge and experience.

He spent about 10 minutes talking about a lack of respect from the manager with the main reason being the manager deciding to sub him into a match with a few minutes to go even though we were winning. Somehow that is disrespectful to him, but it is also disrespectful to put him on the bench at all because then he will just pretend to be sick or go off to Portugal like he already has numerous times when dropped. Somehow it is not disrespectful to the manager and your teammates though to leave before a game is even over on two separate occasions or pretend to be ill whenever you are dropped.

I don't care who you are, expecting some special treatment of only being able to start matches and then having a tantrum every time you are either not starting, subbed off, or asked to sub on is just absurd. He is uncoachable based on his own admission. He is also clearly not good enough to be undroppable. He is straight up delusional based on his own words in the interview. He thinks he is the best player in the world still when in reality he is playing like a washed up shadow of a good player. Even his supposed strength have been weaknesses this season, and his weaknesses are as glaring as ever.

 

[That_Bloke]

For a no reason Manchester United has name the stadium "Theatre of Dreams". And we are maybe on the last chapter of the football movie "Manchester & Cristiano " Reaching the climax of the drama in the movie.

And like most moive and theatre. Which ones doesn't have drama? The dramaturgy is there. A well written manuscript. And the male actor is Cristiano Ronaldo.

And when you first make bond and bind to Ronaldo. Like marry someone. I have been heard that you have accept the negative sides of that person too. We can't never apart the negatives sides out of the person.
And with the level, status and fame Ronaldo have reached. I think it will hard for him to accept. You day of football career is over. Soon or later he will have to accept it. That is not like the one he was before. The peak Ronaldo.


But back to Old Trafford. " The theatre of dreams ". A place where big stars is dreaming of big goals and is like a actor. Include of the full of Drama. From Best and to now.

And at the highest level of fame, status and power. No one would care or known about a player from the non league. But at this level and size of it. Ronaldo is at the highest and one of the most famous theatre " The theatre of Dreams "

Life is just like a movie and theatre. And Old Trafford and "Theatre of Dreams " have been since Sir Busby time. Been a place for England and world biggest players.

So in the end. The question is. Is a dream real or just an illusion? If thing is real = it will last forever. Compare to illusion & Dreams = come, disapear and will not last forever. Old Trafford, Ronaldo and Manchester or even this earth?
So soon or later. Ronaldo has to face it. The reality. Because it's like a illusion and dreams. Soon or later it will come to and end. Accept the reality is the key to face and handle it. The end day of a football career. Nothing will last forever.

Brilliant. I missed your posts.

 

[Cheimoon]

Piers: What do you like about Messi?

Ronaldo: I like the way he speaks about me.

What a waste of 2 evenings.

Is that all he had to say about Messi? I saw a Morgan tweet somewhere in this thread, saying that Ronaldo had explosive stuff to say about Messi. Another bit of nonsense, then?

 

[Footyislife]

I know most people are pissed at Ronaldo and venting. But i'll challenge us to see this situation differently.

Is this the best way for him to act? No. But he's dealing with a lot. He lost his child and finds himself falling from grace. It's a lot to deal with. The least we can do as fans is be understanding and empathetic. I'm not saying excuse what he's doing, but do remember that this is one of the players who has brought us the most joy in a United shirt.

He could have left, but stayed an extra year when SAF asked. He could have joined City to score 40 goals and cement his CL legacy, but out of respect for SAF and us he didn't. He knew he was sacrificing that personal legacy for us (anyone with a brain could see things going poorly for us). I'm not saying that the way he acts makes him the most loyal and faithful player, but in the end, he doesn't owe us anything. It's his career and rights. We all leave jobs for better opportunities. Other players (Pogba cough cough...) have done far worse.

Should we sink to his level and crucify him publically? I would argue no, and challenge you to just empathize and ignore his antics. It will be dealt with by ETH like SAF handled all those who dared to put themselves above the team. As Ariana Grande said best "thank you, NEXT".

 

[NewGlory]

Ronaldo was always a petty, egocentric asshole, even before Real Madrid, back in 2008, but apparently he is also a complete idiot, because this latest bullshit is not gonna help him.

I just hope this forces Glazers' hand to boot him in January and buy us a replacement striker. Which is what we needed, anyway.

 

[amolbhatia50k]

I know most people are pissed at Ronaldo and venting. But i'll challenge us to see this situation differently.

Is this the best way for him to act? No. But he's dealing with a lot. He lost his child and finds himself falling from grace. It's a lot to deal with. The least we can do as fans is be understanding and empathetic. I'm not saying excuse what he's doing, but do remember that this is one of the players who has brought us the most joy in a United shirt.

He could have left, but stayed an extra year when SAF asked. He could have joined City to score 40 goals and cement his CL legacy, but out of respect for SAF and us he didn't. He knew he was sacrificing that personal legacy for us (anyone with a brain could see things going poorly for us). I'm not saying that the way he acts makes him the most loyal and faithful player, but in the end, he doesn't owe us anything. It's his career and rights. We all leave jobs for better opportunities. Other players (Pogba cough cough...) have done far worse.

Should we sink to his level and crucify him publically? I would argue no, and challenge you to just empathize and ignore his antics. It will be dealt with by ETH like SAF handled all those who dared to put themselves above the team. As Ariana Grande said best "thank you, NEXT".

Thanks for the challenge.

I decline. feck him.

 

[amolbhatia50k]

Is that all he had to say about Messi? I saw a Morgan tweet somewhere in this thread, saying that Ronaldo had explosive stuff to say about Messi. Another bit of nonsense, then?

Whole point of bringing up Messi was probably for Piers to lie by saying he thought Ronaldo was better and hence cementing his place in his good books.

 

[Passitlikescholes]

Can this already be over? Can they already kick him out of the club and fans tell him to piss off already.

 

[RedRonaldo]

Well I finished listening to the whole interview, wasn’t even half as bad/controversy as it was made out to be. It’s more a case of him speaking out his own feelings, in a honest manner but also in childish way. Some of the things he shouldn’t said in public but it seems he couldn’t care less. Basically he is narcissistic superstar who is finding it hard to deal with his own decline, he needs more support during his hard time and more respect to his ego, and he thinks he deserves those. People going to ridicule him on that of course.

 

[gerdm07]

We play better without Ronaldo.
He is 37 and will not get better.
He does not respect his manager.

The only conclusion is he leaves.

 

[Fridge chutney]

And you know this how?

You are basically saying one of the worlds best ever managers and one of Englands best ever players (well apart from a dodgy shoulder) were brought in to 'consult' on... business issues, sponsorship matters.....? I find that inconceivable.

Honestly who cares? Woodward and Ferguson didn't see eye to eye, perhaps Arnold and Ferguson have more alignment, hence the timing. Plus, David Gill knows a thing or two about running a football club, so that is a plus.

Regardless, why do you keep derailing the thread with your conspiracy theories?

 

[Fridge chutney]

Dear Fridge chutney

I did certainly not mistake you, as you and your posts are frankly one big reason why I've been reading here for a while.
If you can give me some rope, please let me explain:

In order:
1. I had quoted you before and asked you for your take on the Ronnie situation.
2. You replied, in #6268, in a concise way, which made me want to do two things: one, I wanted to say thanks, and two, I wanted to underline my thanks by offering you the thoughts that made me oppose the official take in the first place, because I felt sharing this with you was appropriate. Consider it a catharsic thing on my part.
3. So I thanked you for your reply, in 6281. Or let's say intended to do so, as apparently I must have failed hard at expressing what I was intending: trying to explain why I felt the situation looked engineered (even though at that point I was basically convinced by your reply that Ronnie is at fault).

Several lines from that post are indeed either cryptic or otherwise unclear, now that I reread it, but I am confident I can paraphrase them to show you that none of it was meant in an offensive way:

A) "I took the liberty to jump at you"
-> referring to the first time I quoted you to ask you for your take, which you gave. Wanted you to know I was not looking to oppose or call you out in any way.

B) "(How did that go down? Sucker!)"
-> referring to me being concious about being brown-nosed from ass-kissing you in the sentence before. Wanted to express I can agree to pay the price for looking brown-nosed, as long as it makes your day.

C) "typing your effing language"
-> English. That you understood the opposite of what I was intending to say is a case in point, writing English means some effort to me, and I wasn't not up to the task as it seems.

D) "Probably not very smart, but there you go."
-> referring to me having it in me to ask the heretic question: could all of this be staged?

E) "A bit smarter, right?"
-> again referring to me, who this time comes better equiped, with a better argument than above.

These are the passages that I feel could be responsible for reading an ad hominem attack, and it is my hope that you now reconsider.

I am sorry for this. Believe me when I say the very opposite was intended. (To come back to being Swiss, one with no Brits in his entourage: all I'm left with is a list of Brits unknown to me. Ronnie makes the top of this list - O'Sullivan, that is - and a certain James May is number two; number three than is you, Fridge chutney, poster of most finest postings. Now how did that go down, suc...)

PS: You asked if I'm okay, and I think so - so what do you think now, and are we okay?

alrighty then, i wish you well and will leave it at that!

 

[syrian_scholes]

I know most people are pissed at Ronaldo and venting. But i'll challenge us to see this situation differently.

Is this the best way for him to act? No. But he's dealing with a lot. He lost his child and finds himself falling from grace. It's a lot to deal with. The least we can do as fans is be understanding and empathetic. I'm not saying excuse what he's doing, but do remember that this is one of the players who has brought us the most joy in a United shirt.

He could have left, but stayed an extra year when SAF asked. He could have joined City to score 40 goals and cement his CL legacy, but out of respect for SAF and us he didn't. He knew he was sacrificing that personal legacy for us (anyone with a brain could see things going poorly for us). I'm not saying that the way he acts makes him the most loyal and faithful player, but in the end, he doesn't owe us anything. It's his career and rights. We all leave jobs for better opportunities. Other players (Pogba cough cough...) have done far worse.

Should we sink to his level and crucify him publically? I would argue no, and challenge you to just empathize and ignore his antics. It will be dealt with by ETH like SAF handled all those who dared to put themselves above the team. As Ariana Grande said best "thank you, NEXT".

Can people stop saying this shit? You are not better than other people and you don't get to tell them how to feel and act on those feelings, you can't make everyone here feel and think like you, you feel like you can empathize with the dude but others think he is a cnut, just stop.

 

[CloneMC16]

Is that all he had to say about Messi? I saw a Morgan tweet somewhere in this thread, saying that Ronaldo had explosive stuff to say about Messi. Another bit of nonsense, then?

There was a little more, but nothing 'explosive'. it was a complete lie. He only praised Messi and said he was a good guy. He said they're not friends as in talk on the phone friends, but that he respects Messi, since they've been playing together for the past 16 years. He also said that his gf got on with Messi's wife. He was asked if he thought Messi was the best player he's ever seen (apart from himself). He said yes, but also brought up Zidane as well. Lastly, Piers asked him if he had ever had dinner with Messi, and Ronaldo said no, but he would like to do so.

It was all clickbait.

 

[That_Bloke]

He'll retire if he wins the WC

No chance (he wins it and he retires).

 

[devilish]

Football is too much of a business now - coming from the guy whose being paid half a million a week

Rooney is a rat - Rooney ran like a man possessed allowing you 'professional' guy to simply dance in the box and score without barely sweating. There's a reason why the likes of Park and Rooney had a short career Ronnie. Someone had to do the work rate and work rate tend to be tough on the body.

The manager show me no respect - the manager play those who is in form. He did made you captain though.

Infrastructure is crap - True but surely a former United player who claim to be a Manchester United fan would have known that. I had never visited Carrington and I knew that myself. Yet you claim that you had never been fit as you are now. So that crap infrastructure might be doing its job right?

I have no regrets joining Manchester United - you had no choice either. Juventus wanted you out but only if they get a fee of you. Ole/Murtough's United were the only club stupid enough to pay a fee for you.

They cut his legs - Actually you can't run anymore. It may be down to age or to a loss of preseason training but you're been crap throughout the season

 

[Desert Eagle]

Funny thing is in the interview Piers gives him a chance to go fully in on the glazers. Ronaldo says united are far from the top and Morgan says because of the glazers?

What does this guy say? Not just the Glazers but the whole infrastructure. That statement might be true but it shows he has no intent of two footing the glazers while they still pay him.

 

[RedDevil@84]

I was surprised at how he dismissed Portugal's chances at the WC. I mean, ya other teams look better, but Portugal is not a dreadful team. And for the team captain, a national icon, to come out and talk like that is a bit surprising.

 

[MF1138]

Its really a nothing of an interview, just a whiny petulant man child crying about perceived slights to his fragile ego.

 

[Sayros]

It was a very boring interview overall. I never liked him as a competitor, the way it was always all about him, or his flailing of his arms constantly throughout games. You had to accept it at the time because he performed and was the second best player in the world for a very long time, but now it's no longer the case and it's just not acceptable anymore. I don't know him as a person but he seems to have a low-watt brain so of course the interview isn't going to be very deep or challenging, but I can imagine what he's going through, it's not easy to handle for a narcissist like him. I think it's unfortunate that he's tarnishing his reputation at the club that probably had the most love for him despite his best years being at Madrid, but I'm not surprised one bit at how he's handling the end of his career. It was pretty easy to expect a narcissist like him having a very difficult time dealing with not being the center of the universe anymore. Credit to Ten Hag for how he's dealt with all of this, and this interview is only going to help him assert his choices on the team formation and selection.

His points about the Glazers and infrastructures might stick, they might not, but overall this was a very positive thing for United fans I would think because from what other fans are saying, he's not wrong about some of those things and if it shines a light on that and gets the Glazers to spend a bit more on the club instead of taking so much money out of it, and it also gets rid of CR7, then all the better for the club overall.

 

[berbasloth4]

I don't think he has been slapped enough as a kid. Regardless what job you are in you disrespect them you get sacked. If im in my 30s if I went in their home crying cause my boss done something I didn't like I'd still get beat back out

 

[Zippycup]

I don't know, but I have read on here that he is kept on the payroll to act as a buffer zone between the fans and the Glazers. Also the money is so he keeps quiet and that seems to be working. Ronaldo called out the Glazers tonight, has Sir Alex ever done that?

Bloody hell.
Youve read have you? Who from? A You-tuber? A LUHG account on Twitter?

 

[croadyman]

Ye. United fans are blind.
What were protests in the past 10 years for then? Fred the Red didnt wave at them in the stadium?

_Brilliant, why couldn't we see this?? Viva Ronaldo, the savior.

Sounds like @GE is fully paid member of Ronaldo FC along with that Zeyn fella who keeps bashing mummy's credit card on Utd fan channels which is embarrassing

 

[Zippycup]

I've seen the full interview now, didn't say much that I disagreed with. It's only fair to have his voice heard, I doubt there were many other alternative channels for that.

I'm not a Ronaldo fan boy, I wanted him out before this but you have to respect his knowledge and experience.

Why? Great players are usually so self-centered that they can't see anything outside the bubble they live in. Surrounding yourself with yes men doesn't make you correct in everything you say or think.

 

[Reapersoul20]

100% wins us the league if he stays for the rest of the season

white text but i actually believe it

 

[tenpoless]

100% wins us the league if he stays for the rest of the autumn season

white text but i actually believe it