Day 15: France vs Poland | England vs Senegal (Last 16 3&4)

amolbhatia50k

Sneaky bum time - Vaccination status: dozed off
Joined
Nov 8, 2002
Messages
95,787
Location
india
Poland look the most pedestrian team of the Ro16 so far.
 

SilentWitness

ShoelessWitness
Staff
Joined
Jan 14, 2010
Messages
30,604
Supports
Everton
Poland have done well to get here, probably the worst side in the last 16.
 

FrankFoot

Full Member
Joined
Jun 5, 2022
Messages
1,377
Location
Chile / Czech Republic
Supports
Neutral
Polish players are too slow for a counter attack.

Probably the slowest team in the the WC, they struggle to counter attack even against Mexico.
 

DrRodo

Honest worker, never posts
Joined
Jun 14, 2014
Messages
2,022
Location
Chile
What a dream would be that united break the bank and bring mbappe to a worthy league and worthy team...
 

TheNewEra

Knows Kroos' mentality
Joined
Jan 20, 2014
Messages
8,258
Warning signs for Poland already.

I think Poland can't be as shit as they have been still, but they need to do better when they get the ball.
 

Zetrio2002

New Member
Newbie
Joined
Oct 1, 2018
Messages
368
Interesting that Poland is playing a 4141. They have to because they can't really match France player vs player. They have to play a different tactic to confuse the opponent.

France's 4231 is useful if they are always attacking. For defending, 4231 isn't very useful on the sides because the 2 centrebacks will be clustered closely with 2 central midfielders on the front of them so not much movement allowed for CBs to move forward while the flanks are exposed.
 

Oly Francis

Full Member
Joined
Oct 3, 2018
Messages
3,944
Supports
PSG
Poles in defence are giants why cross so much
Both crosses were good and weren't cleared by the defense before it reached the center of the box, so I'd say it wasn't a bad strategy. We just didn't have a player in the right area.
 

LouieVanGallsRedArmeh

New Member
Newbie
Joined
Nov 5, 2022
Messages
68
Is it just me or how come the attendance in this particular last 16 knockout match is so poor? I noticed quite a few group stage games had a massive amount of empty seats. But I wasn't expecting as much empty chairs in the knockout stages, that's SAD.
 

awop

Odds winner of 'Odds or Evens 2022/2023'
Newbie
Joined
Sep 28, 2010
Messages
4,239
Location
Paris
Supports
Arsenal
Unsure if its allowed or not
It's definitely not allowed, he must have forgotten to take it off...
“A player must not use equipment or wear anything that is dangerous [to themselves or to other players]. All items of jewelry (necklaces, rings, bracelets, earrings, leather bands, rubber bands, etc.) are forbidden and must be removed. Using tape to cover jewelry is not permitted.
 

Sylar

Full Member
Joined
May 15, 2007
Messages
40,501
France look too good for Poland and it looks inevitable a goal will come soon.

Poland will do well to hold this to half time
 

SilentWitness

ShoelessWitness
Staff
Joined
Jan 14, 2010
Messages
30,604
Supports
Everton
IF France and England win, how likely is it that England go back to a defensive 3/5? The pace of France would be far too much for Maguire and co.
 

Semper Fudge

Adds nothing to the discussion
Joined
May 3, 2021
Messages
3,693
It's definitely not allowed, he must have forgotten to take it off...
“A player must not use equipment or wear anything that is dangerous [to themselves or to other players]. All items of jewelry (necklaces, rings, bracelets, earrings, leather bands, rubber bands, etc.) are forbidden and must be removed. Using tape to cover jewelry is not permitted.
Scenes when France are kicked out for breaking the rules.
 

amolbhatia50k

Sneaky bum time - Vaccination status: dozed off
Joined
Nov 8, 2002
Messages
95,787
Location
india
Poland defending as though they're 1 nil up with 10 mins to go.
 

saivet

Full Member
Joined
Feb 22, 2013
Messages
25,341
Polish players are too slow for a counter attack.

Probably the slowest team in the the WC, they struggle to counter attack even against Mexico.
Yeah big problem for them. They can sit back but can't break quickly. Lewa is a great player but not fast, nor a great dribbler that I can't see how he does much unless Poland can sustatain pressure (won't happen) or from set pieces.
 

Samid

He's no Bilal Ilyas Jhandir
Joined
Dec 12, 2012
Messages
49,560
Location
Oslo, Norway
Poland defending as though they're through on less yellow cards with 80 mins to go.
 

Sylar

Full Member
Joined
May 15, 2007
Messages
40,501
Giroud running for a through ball is a funny sight
 

Irwin99

Full Member
Joined
Aug 6, 2018
Messages
9,389
Completely understand a team being defensive especially against a much better team but there's no energy in this Poland side.

It's like Wales vs England or Argentina vs Australia yesterday, you're just waiting to get beat. Unless you have bags of energy to counter and press this hasn't been a tournament where low blocks have done well.
 

amolbhatia50k

Sneaky bum time - Vaccination status: dozed off
Joined
Nov 8, 2002
Messages
95,787
Location
india
Completely understand a team being defensive especially against a much better team but there's no energy in this Poland side.

It's like Wales vs England or Argentina vs Australia yesterday, you're just waiting to get beat. Unless you have bags of energy to counter and press this hasn't been a tournament where low blocks have done well.
That's the thing. Look at the space Tchoumeni has. No pressure on him at all.
 

Darkhorsez

Full Member
Joined
Oct 24, 2017
Messages
3,140
Location
Canada
Dear Santa, I have never asked for anything for Christmas. This year is an exception. Can we sign Mbappe please. Thank you for your consideration.
 

Revaulx

Full Member
Joined
Mar 17, 2014
Messages
6,046
Location
Saddleworth
It's definitely not allowed, he must have forgotten to take it off...
“A player must not use equipment or wear anything that is dangerous [to themselves or to other players]. All items of jewelry (necklaces, rings, bracelets, earrings, leather bands, rubber bands, etc.) are forbidden and must be removed. Using tape to cover jewelry is not permitted.
Well if they use American spellings in the rules the rest of the world can legitimately ignore them.