Means zilch of you can’t be consistent/consistently committed
Jude Bellingham | Signed for Madrid
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Well that is a different argument entirely.
One of those players who would be shite if United signed him but will be good if another team sign him.
Honestly the revisionism about Pogba is sickly.
Its like someone pointing to Ben Arfa's few moments here and there to try and water down Ryan Giggs.
I don’t agree except for the passing. Again thats only because Ive watched alot of Bellingham that I have that opinion.
Bellingham has all the attributes to become one of the great midfielders. If we don't get him I can only hope he goes to Spain.
You can't be a great player without those attributes
Pogba was better in every single footballing way than Bellingham apart from the ability to cover the ground.
Try was maybe.
He played well today
Great engine and loves a tackle and can pick a pass....all the requisites to be a top midfielder.
Great engine and loves a tackle and can pick a pass....all the requisites to be a top midfielder.
He was in his early Juve days? Especially at Jude’s age / stage of career.
True, but the argument was purely based on natural talent.
Agreed actually. Pogba's best days are behind him in my opinion.
The place already stank to be fair. But Pogba wanted a team built around him without having the consistency to deserve it. Bad defensively and bad attitude.
Bellingham seems more complete.
Those attributes are part of that though. If you don't have it in you to be like that then that's it.
This shouldn't be a controversial opinion, but the hype train is absurd.
When I talk about natural talent, I only really mean in terms of what they can do with a football.
Surely you have to look at the whole package though. Otherwise you have people thinking a player like Ravel Morrison as being one of the best players of their generation despite barely being good enough to hold a place in a Championship side.
Agree to disagree in that case.
In terms of natural talent though, (or what I perhaps wrongly consider to be natural talent), Ravel Morrison was one of the best players this country has produced in the last 10-15 years.
I’m calling bullshit, thats called talent against youth players
Oh come on that's utter nonsense
I suppose sometimes you just know it when you see it. I have no doubt that Ravel Morrison had the natural talent to be a success at United.
We live in the real world though
Best the country has produced in 10-15 years… ha
Why is it? Just because he had an underwhelming career relative to expectations, doesn't mean that the talent wasn't there in the first place.
Um. It does actually. He clearly wasn't good enough.
One of the best in terms of natural talent. Certainly.
Agreed. Not due to a lack of natural talent though. That only takes you so far of course.
No of many players who are brilliant at youth football but go no where
Agreed. However, the issue with Morrison was down to off the pitch issues and his mentality. Not a lack of natural talent.
No the issue was hes not good enough
Ultimately yes, but not for the reason we have been debating. I'd have him in the top 5-10 players in terms of natural talent that this country has produced in the last 10-15 years.
That's so bonkers that you believe that. Jake Livermore has had a better career.
Agreed. Many players have had better careers than Morrison. However, Jake Livermore, like many others, was not more naturally talented than Ravel Morrison. Anyway, I guess we should get this back on topic
Whay are people comparing a 19year old to Pogba? If anything shouldnt we be comparing him to teenagers like Hannibal.
This is a 19year old who has moved from the championship at what was it 17/18 and consitently lit up the Budesliga in MIDFIELD and is lighting up the world cup....that is obsscene regardless of what happens in the next game.
Its so rare to get teenage midfielders breaking through and making an impact at the top level, amazingly we have four with Camavinga, Gavi ad Pedro at the moment.
Whether Bellinghams attributes allow him individually to be a more talented player than Pogba who knows but lets not Pogba is nearing 30 and his club areer performances have been pretty patchy. If we are going to compare defensively Bellingham is far more dynamic trackign runners, positionally aware and intelligent of the shape of the team around him than Pogba has ever been and he is still only 19years old and his decision making is already on a level with Pogbas.....so I find comparing him with Pogba when its unlikely internationally over time England will match France so going on club football with a player who has underwhelmed the vast majority of his club career strange, Bellingham will go on to achieve far more at club level than Pogba I feel
If we miss out on FdJ again, he should be our next choice.
They're comparing him to 19 year old Pogba I think. As he did well for Juve and France at the time. Although his world cup performance was a year after his breakout season.
Simply horrible that he’s gonna end up at city
Wilshere was very good midfield maestro teenager
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