"say the line Bart"
"He's not gonna make it"
"He's not gonna make it"
Amad Diallo | Sunderland Loan Watch
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Agreed. I think also the issue with our loans is that we are trying to send our players with almost zero experience to teams in the higher level; Diallo to Rangers, Chong to Werder, Pellistri at Alaves etc. They fail and then we lower the level.
Good play from Diallo, but I think that's a very soft penalty!
I just saw that. Their other 29 goals have all come from open play. That seems quite an amazing statistic
His dribbling is really great, so natural.
Looks knackered now.
Should have won another penalty there
And then he comes to life again! He is such a threat!
Another decent showing. A threat throughout. It didn't help his cause that the majority of his teammates were crap though.
He looks good. Scoring penalty reflects to his confidence level right now is high.
If you’ve watched him play in the academy with Hannibal… there’s a game the two of them play give n go and run rings around the defenders. Amad is a highly technical player excellent in tight spaces. He will make an excellent no.10. I knew the sunderland manager was onto something when he asked Amad to be more aggressive and take more risks. Reminds me of when the Crystal palace manager challenged Zaha to be more aggressive and forget his United stint that had robbed him of confidence and what a player he developed into.
There’s numerous instances Amad gives a pass and is expecting a certain pass back after he moves into better position but the execution of the return pass in weight and accuracy is beyond the sunderland player (I’m sure even they would admit that). Sunderland loan is good but Amad needs a highly technical team as I think he’s reached his limit at Sunderland.
There’s numerous instances Amad gives a pass and is expecting a certain pass back after he moves into better position but the execution of the return pass in weight and accuracy is beyond the sunderland player (I’m sure even they would admit that). Sunderland loan is good but Amad needs a highly technical team as I think he’s reached his limit at Sunderland.
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Think you're right, but it's fine for now. He desperately needs professional level game time and it's great that Sunderland are giving him that, which rangers didn't last year.
A bit tricky what to do with him next season. On one hand he's doing great and it'd be good to see him given a chance here, on the other hand not getting regular football might disrupt his development.
If I'm being honest, if my son turns out to be a big talent, I'd advise him not join a top club at a young age. Don't think it's good for any young talent at all.
If I'm being honest, if my son turns out to be a big talent, I'd advise him not join a top club at a young age. Don't think it's good for any young talent at all.
He needs to keep playing. Sitting on the bench for us won't help at all. IMO he's still not at the point he can come in and challenge for the spot regularly.
Another year on loan at a PL club would be ideal, but he needs regular matches. You can see the improvement he's had in his first real consistent season of mens football.
Great points!
I think as a rule of thumb, that a kid (in need of regular playing time) must play at the very more than 24 full games a year to not keep building that rhythm and confidence in games. And that is all games considered.
That equation is greatly helped if Diallo can get say 8-10 games over 5 breaks with the Ivory Coast. The key is that he becomes the 100% alternative to Antony. When Antony doesn’t play, Diallo must. And let’s be honest, odds are probably that we will be in the Europa League again next season anyway.
So theoretically I think Diallo would get enough playing time as a sub to Antony and even Bruno on occasion.
But in reality, you do walk a fine line. All it takes is like a 4 week injury at the worst time and he perhaps misses planned 4-5 starts, and is out of form when he returns and get back in again even on the rotation.
I think this year is immensely important for him. It should work if we recall him for next season, but at the same time, you take a risk if you do for sure.
I think as a rule of thumb, that a kid (in need of regular playing time) must play at the very more than 24 full games a year to not keep building that rhythm and confidence in games. And that is all games considered.
That equation is greatly helped if Diallo can get say 8-10 games over 5 breaks with the Ivory Coast. The key is that he becomes the 100% alternative to Antony. When Antony doesn’t play, Diallo must. And let’s be honest, odds are probably that we will be in the Europa League again next season anyway.
So theoretically I think Diallo would get enough playing time as a sub to Antony and even Bruno on occasion.
But in reality, you do walk a fine line. All it takes is like a 4 week injury at the worst time and he perhaps misses planned 4-5 starts, and is out of form when he returns and get back in again even on the rotation.
I think this year is immensely important for him. It should work if we recall him for next season, but at the same time, you take a risk if you do for sure.
Agreed. Unless he somehow becomes so good he can't be ignored, get him out on loan again. You can always recall him in Jan if it's either going very well or very badly.
This is a good loan. A top quality player should shine in the championship and he really is starting to despite playing with a mediocre team. Tough league and place to be and he's getting down to hard work. I really hope he makes it here
Anyone know how his long range shooting is?
He needs to get at least 50 senior games under his belt before we can even consider bring him back.
Not see much since his time at United or even in the videos during his time at Atalanta. Usually shots within the 18yard box.
Well he's already got 42 so that's not a particularly high bar. 50 starts is perhaps what you mean?
ETH seems too detailed to allow a complacent approach to be taken with players. He made Dalot number one and gave him game time. He froze out AWB presumably until he showed improvement. He dropped Maguire as soon as he had a reasonable excuse and has been clear about what Maguire needs to accept in terms of his role at the club. He backed Rashford, made it clear he likes Martial, has sent Sancho to get his shit together. There are any number of examples. He has plans for everyone.
Amad will only be brought back if ETH has a clear idea of how and when he will be used and can be given a consistent run of games. It’s sounds strange to say out loud but I completely trust the manager to develop this kid correctly. I am and have been a fan of him and his style of play since he arrived.
Amad will only be brought back if ETH has a clear idea of how and when he will be used and can be given a consistent run of games. It’s sounds strange to say out loud but I completely trust the manager to develop this kid correctly. I am and have been a fan of him and his style of play since he arrived.
Inconsistent I would say. He can obviously score from range as he’s shown from free kicks but a lot of his shooting from distance can be quite weak. Definitely doesn’t have Rashford or Greenwood’s ball striking gifts.
50 starts
Any way to watch the Sunderland-Hull game today?
Diallo starting as RW again, keeping Pat Roberts on the bench again.
Diallo playing as a AMC today, have started the game really well. Was about to write Diallo 1-1 after Sunderland got a penalty, but Stewart took it himself…
Actually, what to do with him shouldn't be a rocket science. He is 20, will be 21 in the summer. What to do with him is clear: if he has decent enough season on loan and good pre-season, he will come back and try to make it here. If he cannot then he willl be sold or let go. Can't be treated with kid gloves until the age of 27. And we better start making some money on these players who ain't good enough for us but decent otherwise. This is one of many big ways our footballing side needs to be revamped when a new owner comes in and fires the dummies running the club right now
I thought Dalot's story should have thought the cafe to be more patient with very talented youngsters who have not played enough games in their formative years.
An attacking midfielder is where I potentially see ten Hag using him next season, if at all.
It's clear that ten Hag likes, not only explosive players on the wing, but players who want to penetrate in behind.
I feel this is why Sancho has struggled because he likes to come to the ball. I feel Amad shares a similar style.
Obviously, this is something that can be worked on but it'll be interesting to see how he gets on as a number 10 today.
First time I’ve watched Sunderland this season. Amad having a great impression of the invisible man this second half. Struggling to get involved at all.
I’ve not watched but he’s still got the highest average rating from the Sunderland squad from what I can see.
I wouldn’t read too much in to it, especially if it’s been an overall bore fest from both sides.
Not his best game from what I've seen, a lot of misplaced passes at crucial times in attack.
i mean, it’s been a bore but for the first 15 or so minutes of the second half he looked like he was in hiding. For someone playing in the attacking midfield position it seemed like he was always miles away from play, always hiding behind defenders and not getting involved. Since then he’s had a bit of play, but either nothing passes or giving the ball away with terrible ones.
Pffft, not even the balon d'or
Nice! He still look a bit lightweight from the video. Maybe a special program during summer to bulk him up and join up the first team next season.
Fair point but important differences:
1. Dalot is a right back, Amad is an attacker. Also Dalot was bought as a senior player, Amad is from our academy and shouldn't require as much adaptation. Different standards.
2. Dalot's main problem was that he was mismanaged by Ole and wasn't getting proper coaching
3. For every Dalot there is examples of Phil Jones and Lingard and many others. Dalot is not a norm, Dalot is an exception. I think it is fair for us to expect that by 21 our academy products are able to start breaking into the main team or let go. Unless we want to be Everton.
The standard at United has to be the best or nothing. There is no other way to win trophies
Your entire premise absolutely collapses merely by pointing out the fact that Amad wasn’t by any description an academy player in the slightest.
That's the best I've seen him play in the CAM position. He's toughened up throughout the season (not surprising since he'd played 59 minutes of men's football before Utd. signed him and not much more at Rangers and for us).
His first half was very good with some excellent touches and vision but Blackburn clearly crowded the central areas to stop his threat more in the 2nd half.
He was also playing in a position where he was trying to create, so like Bruno, his passing was more adventurous and often his teammates were not always on the same wavelength. When he was run past and his weak effort to foul was brushed off, it was good to see him run 70yds and retrieve the ball in his own half.
At one point midway in the 2nd half Sky put up a stat saying he'd had the most touches of any player on the pitch so I don't think he was hiding at all.
I'm seeing physical progression from one game to the next, but obviously, the more you shine out as a threat the more the opposition can concentrate stopping you given the lack of threat elsewhere.
His first half was very good with some excellent touches and vision but Blackburn clearly crowded the central areas to stop his threat more in the 2nd half.
He was also playing in a position where he was trying to create, so like Bruno, his passing was more adventurous and often his teammates were not always on the same wavelength. When he was run past and his weak effort to foul was brushed off, it was good to see him run 70yds and retrieve the ball in his own half.
At one point midway in the 2nd half Sky put up a stat saying he'd had the most touches of any player on the pitch so I don't think he was hiding at all.
I'm seeing physical progression from one game to the next, but obviously, the more you shine out as a threat the more the opposition can concentrate stopping you given the lack of threat elsewhere.
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