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Ceyhun Kazancı, Besiktas’ sporting director, on Weghorst's "goodbye":
I don’t understand why Weghorst said goodbye to the fans, why he made such a move. He is our football player right now. Our contract expires at the end of the season.

If Manchester United or any other team wants Wegnorst, they will meet with Burnley anyway. Burnley will then contact us and discuss the terms of separation. If we accept, the contract will be terminated. Otherwise, it will go on until the end of the season. He can’t just go. There will have to be a reward for us to approve the separation. I’ll give an example. Burnley told us, ‘We made a deal with this team for Weghorst. We give you half of the transfer fee.’ This may be a different condition. Then we’ll sit down and talk.
 

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I think I asked this question some time ago and someone came up with some bullshit answer. How come Chelsea can spend whatever they like, yet United have to be careful about FFP?
Because they sold Hazard fir €150m a few years ago whilst serving a transfer ban so they haven't spent the money yet. that was the excuse last time i remember.
 

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They've spent half a billion quid since Hazard left.
They haven’t announced an Annual Report yet for 21/22 and doesn’t publish quarterly reports — so it’s hard to speculate on what they are up to.

When we look at the FFP rules, they have done all the right things. You must break even. Costs associated with the youth academy does not count as an expense. When you sell a player developed by the academy, it counts as an income. So investing in the academy is really smart.

But I also wonder how they will be able to comply especially the coming years.
 

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Clearly the part about FFP is not really that important, City and Chelsea have shown us that. But to be quite honest, if we want a striker who is cheap - I kinda like the idea of Weghorst. He offers us something completely new - and now that we have Eriksen on the set-pieces we will be a huge threat when Weghorst is on the pitch.
 

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Clearly the part about FFP is not really that important, City and Chelsea have shown us that. But to be quite honest, if we want a striker who is cheap - I kinda like the idea of Weghorst. He offers us something completely new - and now that we have Eriksen on the set-pieces we will be a huge threat when Weghorst is on the pitch.
It's not important if the owner is willing to buy a yacht for someone or just simply pay the fine and move on which is obviously not the case with us.
 

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I think I asked this question some time ago and someone came up with some bullshit answer. How come Chelsea can spend whatever they like, yet United have to be careful about FFP?
They also have to worry about FFP hence their decision to low-ball Benfica for Enzo and their long contracts to their young players (reduces amortisation). The only difference is that they have more cash in the bank than United do thanks to the takeover, so they can do more in the market than we can this month.
 

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I won't lie, that's still a lot of money to pay for Félix even though it's below Atletico Madrid's ask. There's also no mention of a purchase option/obligation (conditional or otherwise).
 

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I won't lie, that's still a lot of money to pay for Félix even though it's below Atletico Madrid's ask. There's also no mention of a purchase option/obligation (conditional or otherwise).
Yeah I noticed that as well
 

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I won't lie, that's still a lot of money to pay for Félix even though it's below Atletico Madrid's ask. There's also no mention of a purchase option/obligation (conditional or otherwise).
They don't need the purchase option, they've basically got Nkuku wrapped up.
 

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They don't need the purchase option, they've basically got Nkuku wrapped up.
Interesting that he chose the team least likely to win a trophy this year, and probably least likely to turn the deal into a permanent one. My guess is that he didn't have much choice as MUFC and AFC probably refused to pay that loan fee.
 

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Interesting that he chose the team least likely to win a trophy this year, and probably least likely to turn the deal into a permanent one. My guess is that he didn't have much choice as MUFC and AFC probably refused to pay that loan fee.
Yeah we both baulked at the fee
 

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Interesting that he chose the team least likely to win a trophy this year, and probably least likely to turn the deal into a permanent one. My guess is that he didn't have much choice as MUFC and AFC probably refused to pay that loan fee.
I think you're probably right mate.
 

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Besiktas also made an official statement in response to the recent Weghorst rumours:

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Statement in full:
Following the match of our First Team against Kasımpaşa in the Super League, it has become necessary to make a statement due to speculative news in the media regarding our footballer Wout Weghorst.

The claim that there is an exit clause in our footballer's contract that his contract can be terminated with a compensation of 2.5 million Euros in case of an offer from the Premier League is fictitious. In addition, the news that the player in question will leave the team on Tuesday is completely untrue. The initiative regarding Wout Weghorst lies entirely with Beşiktaş Jimnastik Kulübü'ndedir.

We also state that our esteemed community and the public will be informed if there is a development on this issue.
 

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Besiktas also made an official statement in response to the recent Weghorst rumours:

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So Besiktas want more than a 2.5M compensation to cut short a loan deal that ends in 6 months.

I don't see how this deal goes through as a loan, if anything it will be a sale.
 

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So Besiktas want more than a 2.5M compensation to cut short a loan deal that ends in 6 months.

I don't see how this deal goes through as a loan, if anything it will be a sale.
Have said repeatedly got no issue with a sale provided we get a starter number 9 in the summer
 

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So Besiktas want more than a 2.5M compensation to cut short a loan deal that ends in 6 months.

I don't see how this deal goes through as a loan, if anything it will be a sale.
I wouldn't be happy with Weghorst on a permanent deal. If we're getting a permanent striker Thuram and Fullkrug would be much better options imo. I expect they will agree some compromise on the loan. Don't see us paying £2.5m.
 

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I wouldn't be happy with Weghorst on a permanent deal. If we're getting a permanent striker Thuram and Fullkrug would be much better options imo. I expect they will agree some compromise on the loan. Don't see us paying £2.5m.
That's Euros, not Pounds. Besiktas are trying to milk this as much as they can. The loan fee is already half way paid off, and they'll be stubborn about releasing Wout. Burnley can just recall him and pay a fee to compensate for the recall. There's standard protocol in all this. Player wants to get it done, partner club is fine with it.
 

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So, we are trying to sign a player who is surplus to requirements for Burnley who are not even a PL club anymore, have we sunk that low?
 

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So, we are trying to sign a player who is surplus to requirements for Burnley who are not even a PL club anymore, have we sunk that low?
Granted he was poor for an awful Burnley-side, but in his last full season before joining Burnley he scored 20 goals in Bundesliga. Do I want him to be a regular - of course not, but I cant imagine many better players to have in the last 10 minutes of a game if you need a goal - or need to defend set-pieces. Imagine Shaw, Bruno and Eriksen with crosses into the box - where instead of Martial, we not have a 6'5 beast waiting
 

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So, we are trying to sign a player who is surplus to requirements for Burnley who are not even a PL club anymore, have we sunk that low?
No happened when we signed Ighalo from the Chinese super league, having last played PL football 3 years prior.
 

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I wouldn't be happy with Weghorst on a permanent deal. If we're getting a permanent striker Thuram and Fullkrug would be much better options imo. I expect they will agree some compromise on the loan. Don't see us paying £2.5m.
What has Fullkrug done in his career to be a better option?
 

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At this rate we going to once again get mugged off and pay way over the odds just for a loan of a bang average striker, this is what happens when you don't operate as a proactive club, just look at Chelsea under the new owner
 

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At this rate we going to once again get mugged off and pay way over the odds just for a loan of a bang average striker, this is what happens when you don't operate as a proactive club, just look at Chelsea under the new owner
Chelsea probably slightly too proactive, the new owner hasn’t made a single correct decision in my opinion.

But yeah, we’re shit.
 

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At this rate we going to once again get mugged off and pay way over the odds just for a loan of a bang average striker, this is what happens when you don't operate as a proactive club, just look at Chelsea under the new owner
Is this a joke? Chelsea are hardly good examples of an effective operation under their new owner. They've spent a shed load, are tenth and look absolutely shite.
 

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At this rate we going to once again get mugged off and pay way over the odds just for a loan of a bang average striker, this is what happens when you don't operate as a proactive club, just look at Chelsea under the new owner
Chelsea's transfers have been horrendous under the new owner. :lol:
 
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