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If it's a sell for a good fee I say go for it don't care it's top 4 opposition. Use the funds to sign a replacement.
Not if we fail to bring in any replacement. Whether you rate the player or not, some form of squad depth is essential. If we can identify a decent player who is ready to come now that's a different story.He would weaken them, it would be a smart move by us.
Well in the case of of Jack grealish not very much however all being even Newcastle should have withdrawn Joe Linton from the team. It just doesn't sit right with me.What type of punishment do you get for Drunk Driving in the UK? Could they fear for being without Joelinton for a while this spring?
Okay. Alright Joy Butcherson, how about this then?No. Tielemans doesn't suit a ten Hag team and we've just got Weghorst on loan so there's no need to sign Depay on a long-term contract. I'd ship McTominay out.
Yeah sure. In your head. Nobody is paying that for him not even Newcastle.McTominay is easily worth 30m and no to your suggestion.
Depends on how much over the limit he was and if he's got previous - a lot over the limit an d previous could be potential jail time but probably a big fine and loss of licenceWhat type of punishment do you get for Drunk Driving in the UK? Could they fear for being without Joelinton for a while this spring?
Why would we sign someone better than Casemiro or Eriksen? I don't get it. We are selling someone who is nowhere near those 2. All I am saying is that the £60m figure you mentioned is a pure fantasy, nobody in their right mind would pay anywhere near that. £25-30m is probably the most we can expect.Casemiro and Eriksen is our best midfield in a 4231. You sell McTominay....
Who do you buy in the January window that is a better CDM than Casemiro or a good backup?
Who do you sign better in CM than Eriksen? We need a top drawer CM that can do it all home and away, and not an Eriksen cover man.
Fine, sell him and bring in Lee Cattermole (if he’s even still playing) if ‘whether you rate the player or not’ had no relevance. The squad depth point is valid, but we are talking about a midfielder who cannot pass a football or tackle. So any unexpected scenario which still allows us to field XI players would be equal to no loss from selling McTominay. If that means playing Martinez in midfield, it would almost certainly be an improvement on McTominay. He is of no loss, just as Van de Beek will be of no loss as they add nothing beyond enabling us to field XI men. We could literally play Victor Lindelöf as an emergency DM and be no worse off.Not if we fail to bring in any replacement. Whether you rate the player or not, some form of squad depth is essential. If we can identify a decent player who is ready to come now that's a different story.
Somewhat disagree. He's got power and pace and experience and is just entering his prime. I could see Newcastle being the only team to cough up 30M, but I think a couple of teams would throw 20M at him now that we see teams like Bournemouth and Forest spend that much. He's safe, experienced and physically up for it. So we might lost some value, but I think a lot of teams who aren't very good would see him as a great fit as a #8 playing on the counter, winning tackles and headers and bursting forward, which is what the teams not trying to play football like Brighton need. Onana for example is very raw, but doing a decent job in that role for Everton and their midfield looks more solid as a result.We'll struggle to move him in the summer. I think this opportunity has purely popped up because of Bruno Guimaeraes' injury
That’s how much clubs want for Tielemans even more for Neves. I don’t see how he’s worth anything less than £30m.Yeah sure. In your head. Nobody is paying that for him not even Newcastle.
Longstaff is far better than McTominay.Well he’s a much better player than Longstaff, and seeing as you fecks rated him at 50m I think it’s only fair you give us 60. Plus an extra 10 for being oil nonces.
Agree. He’s been fairly good in his few appearances this season. We need squad depth so I would keep him.He’s not as bad as people on here make out, but still probably never going to be good enough to be a fixture of our first team. He has a price, it’d be interesting to see what Newcastle are actually offering.
Is not 25m “big money” though for McTominay?Hard to get a homegrown player like him who’ll be satisfied with playing here and there. We need local players too.
Only sell if big money comes in that we need for important upgrades. Not if it’s a sideways move.
He's absolutely not. Both are shite.Longstaff is far better than McTominay.
Retired, how about Gary Mendel?Fine, sell him and bring in Lee Cattermole (if he’s even still playing)
You think Mctominay and Neves are same quality wise. Neves is far better midfielder.That’s how much clubs want for Tielemans even more for Neves. I don’t see how he’s worth anything less than £30m.
And I'm saying besides Tielemans who isn't better than Eriksen in CM, who do you get in January?Why would we sign someone better than Casemiro or Eriksen? I don't get it. We are selling someone who is nowhere near those 2. All I am saying is that the £60m figure you mentioned is a pure fantasy, nobody in their right mind would pay anywhere near that. £25-30m is probably the most we can expect.
Would you take kessie if available for 30m? I know he isn’t a like for like replacement for Casemiro but can play there like Mctominay.Is Tielemans better than Eriksen as a CM or McTominay as a CDM to cover for Casemiro?
I say no and it's the wrong profile to go for. A Bellingham/De Jong/Enzo could be signed for CM to play ahead of Eriksen or rotate with him.
Casemiro needs CDM cover. We don't really need someone to start ahead of him. If we did it wouldn't be Tielemans. I think our squad is at the point where only very good players should replace our weakest starting 11 players.
Currently that's probably Martial and De Gea. It's getting tougher to improve the starting 11.
I'm not a fan of his, but he and Casemiro are the only physical presences in the midfield. I would prefer he had better midfielder qualities as well, but such is life.He's unique that's for sure. A midfielder who doesn't want the ball in his feet.
its not much if we need to spend 15m on a new player (and more in wages to attract the said player)Is not 25m “big money” though for McTominay?
Players are available in January. Get someone on loan or a Malacia type of understudy to Casemiro.
We need depth, but the way McT played in Spain or against Charlton just don’t cut it.
That and the fact they take the piss when we ask about one of their players.Newcastle are undoubtedly a top 4 rival this season - we shouldn't sell unless we have a superior player lined up to come in (seems somewhat doubtful, given our current financial situation).
Its not like he’s going on strike to force a move is it? It could be that both the option to stay here is good but also an option at Newcastle is good. Or just to express an interest to be more appreciated/play more/get paid more. This is just journos reporting it, not the final truth.In the OP:
That would be a yes for me, he was becoming a very useful player at Milan, no idea why he hasn't worked out at Barca though as I haven't watched much of them this season.Would you take kessie if available for 30m? I know he isn’t a like for like replacement for Casemiro but can play there like Mctominay.
No you dont. You need good players. Fletcher was a lot better than McT.its not much if we need to spend 15m on a new player (and more in wages to attract the said player)
the way McTominay has played in big games such as Liverpool, PSG, etc does cut it. He’s played a lot of good matches against big opponents actually. Good for when you need to sit back a bit, not so good against mediocre teams where we need to create. But that responsibility shouldnt be his neither - i think we are aware of that with the creative type of players we have bought of late.
Like with Fletcher you need these kind of local bread and butter types
Because we all agreed he was being overpriced early on, Longstaff is being made out to be some sort of figure of fun which he isn’t. He was attracting top clubs at the time, and has been a regular in Newcastle’s midfield all season. He can pass a football which makes him more a midfielder than Scott y default. Have you actually even watched him play? Or just know him as the player we were quoted 50m for?He's absolutely not. Both are shite.
All of it depends on context though. How solid is Newcastle's interest really? How much are they prepared to pay? Do we have any contingency plan if he leaves?Fine, sell him and bring in Lee Cattermole (if he’s even still playing) if ‘whether you rate the player or not’ had no relevance. The squad depth point is valid, but we are talking about a midfielder who cannot pass a football or tackle. So any unexpected scenario which still allows us to field XI players would be equal to no loss from selling McTominay. If that means playing Martinez in midfield, it would almost certainly be an improvement on McTominay. He is of no loss, just as Van de Beek will be of no loss as they add nothing beyond enabling us to field XI men. We could literally play Victor Lindelöf as an emergency DM and be no worse off.
Mark my words, if McTominay went to Newcastle he won’t reach 30 years old there either. With these players, it’s usually their second move after a big club that shows their real level. Coming from United might ensure you a minimum level. But with no United protection, he’ll be exposed. He’s not good enough for Newcastle either in reality, and they are going nowhere fast if their big project includes having Scott McTominay as a regular in their midfield. Within 18 months he’ll be a Carabao player for them too.
If we are in a ‘need to sell well before we can buy’ position then McTominay is akin to free money for us.