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bosnian_red

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I agreed with you mate. There were times last season where I did wonder whether he had come to the end of the road at United due to mental reasons, but not that he was a rubbish player. If he were to be sold, I’d always expected it to be for in and around 9 figures, but I did wonder if it would be for the best of all for him to go and seek fresh motivation.
Yep. I also had the same thought for Martial... Can't win them all. With him though it's fitness which seemingly just keeps getting worse
 

Rozay

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Yep. I also had the same thought for Martial... Can't win them all. With him though it's fitness which seemingly just keeps getting worse
Indeed, Martial has to go at this point. Whatever we achieve this season, we’d have been a far better team with a reliable striker of good standard, let along one of the very best in the world.
 

Doracle

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I agreed with you mate. There were times last season where I did wonder whether he had come to the end of the road at United due to mental reasons, but not that he was a rubbish player. If he were to be sold, I’d always expected it to be for in and around 9 figures, but I did wonder if it would be for the best of all for him to go and seek fresh motivation.
Sorry, couldn’t resist calling that earlier comment out. I just happened to be looking at that page shortly after seeing your post.

Being concerned about Rashford’s ability to recover his form following injuries and possible motivation issues is completely understandable. There was no guarantee at all that he’d return/reach his current level. I doubt that there’s anyone on this forum who didn’t have concerns.
 

Lee565

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So basically since ronaldo did one with his toxic ego, is it coincidence that rashford also suffered a dreadful season last season when ronaldo came back as a constant starter and tried to throw young players like rashford under the bus in interviews to mask his negative influence on the team.
 

Threesus

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His last 3 games have not been good. I still feel someone like coady gakpo would have been nice, if only to give some competition.

Still way off where people like mane and salah were at the same age.
 

Utd heap

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His last 3 games have not been good. I still feel someone like coady gakpo would have been nice, if only to give some competition.

Still way off where people like mane and salah were at the same age.
Does make you wonder where we would be if we had gone for Gakpo and dropped Rashers.

Actually, thinking about it - probably about 9th.
 

Teja

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:lol: I am clean with my Rashford belief... Never waivered
Hah I was also certain that he was a great off the ball runner and finisher - never understood people questioning his workrate on defence when it was clear that he was being asked to stay up by multiple managers so he'd be a counter attacking threat.

So I'll try to be the devils advocate here since everyone decided that he was better than Mbappe around here.

In my book his strengths are

- Off the ball running
- Controlling that lofted aerial ball with his first touch and keeping possession / scoring as a result
- Finishing in general
- Nutmegs

There are a couple of areas where he used to be shit at and have been masked either through tactics or because he improved as a player.

- When he's back to goal or in the left half space and there's a ball pinged to his feet. The ball basically used to go back to the passer at the same velocity. On the odd occasion that he tried to control it and turn he'd lose it immediately to the CB / CM.

- Facing up to the fullback - he'd try to either nutmeg (never worked) or an occasional elastico (sometimes worked) but he's hardly a bag of tricks. Couldn't really use his pace to beat the fullback.

- When he was doubled up by the winger and the fullback, he used to attempt (and sometimes succeed with) ridiculous passes to an underlapping Shaw / Martial making a run. More often than not he'd just lose the ball.

- Generally erratic dribbling and passing when we were up against a set defence and he's off form. This still happens but he's on good form now. I think we'll see a return of this version of Rashford at some point and people will start flipping tables again.
 

Crimson King

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His last 3 games have not been good. I still feel someone like coady gakpo would have been nice, if only to give some competition.

Still way off where people like mane and salah were at the same age.
I mean, Mane had just joined Liverpool at Rashford's current age, and Salah was still at Roma.

If anything he's on the same trajectory as they were. He's also by himself, whereas they had each other to feed off in that Liverpool team.
 

Threesus

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I mean, Mane had just joined Liverpool at Rashford's current age, and Salah was still at Roma.

If anything he's on the same trajectory as they were. He's also by himself, whereas they had each other to feed off in that Liverpool team.
Don’t think they had a prolific no 10 like Bruno though. And it’s not like he tracks back like them anyway. He is always on the half way line waiting for a counter, so for a guy who is solely focused on attack, his stats are not eye popping.
 

LInkash

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Casemiro is better and more influential at his job than Rashford is at his. But Rashford is in great form no doubt.
I'm not entirely sure about this.

Without Casemiro, we're hanging in there.

Without Rashford, would we get any goals?
 

next_number_seven

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Hah I was also certain that he was a great off the ball runner and finisher - never understood people questioning his workrate on defence when it was clear that he was being asked to stay up by multiple managers so he'd be a counter attacking threat.

So I'll try to be the devils advocate here since everyone decided that he was better than Mbappe around here.

In my book his strengths are

- Off the ball running
- Controlling that lofted aerial ball with his first touch and keeping possession / scoring as a result
- Finishing in general
- Nutmegs

There are a couple of areas where he used to be shit at and have been masked either through tactics or because he improved as a player.

- When he's back to goal or in the left half space and there's a ball pinged to his feet. The ball basically used to go back to the passer at the same velocity. On the odd occasion that he tried to control it and turn he'd lose it immediately to the CB / CM.

- Facing up to the fullback - he'd try to either nutmeg (never worked) or an occasional elastico (sometimes worked) but he's hardly a bag of tricks. Couldn't really use his pace to beat the fullback.

- When he was doubled up by the winger and the fullback, he used to attempt (and sometimes succeed with) ridiculous passes to an underlapping Shaw / Martial making a run. More often than not he'd just lose the ball.

- Generally erratic dribbling and passing when we were up against a set defence and he's off form. This still happens but he's on good form now. I think we'll see a return of this version of Rashford at some point and people will start flipping tables again.
I thought his major weakness was overcomplicating things. Taking on two defenders etc
 

Irwin99

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I'm not entirely sure about this.

Without Casemiro, we're hanging in there.

Without Rashford, would we get any goals?
I'm of the view that Rashford, Martinez and Casemiro have been our three best players this season by some distance and one of those three will be our POTY. That's not to say anything bad against other players who have played very well too. That's a good point about Rashford though. Without him i just don't see many natural goalscorers in this team other than maybe Bruno. We have depth in the centre back positions, we're struggling without Casemiro but can just about cope, but with Rashford we're probably fecked for goals.
 

AjaxCunian

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Never lost faith in him, glad the club stuck by him.

His output has been absolutely brilliant, still feel like he can go a next level in his general play.


Kind of a moments player still to me, but the very best in that as well.
 

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Has there ever been a player capable of being that bad 1 year, then that good the next? it's really quite a swing.

I was seriously worried his injuries had done some permanent damage. Thankfully he's looking better than ever.
 

Doracle

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- Facing up to the fullback - he'd try to either nutmeg (never worked) or an occasional elastico (sometimes worked) but he's hardly a bag of tricks. Couldn't really use his pace to beat the fullback.
His bag of tricks is actually quite extensive. Probably more so than Mbappe, who really is primarily just an out and out pace merchant when it comes to beating a player. Wingers do not routinely beat premier league quality defenders with “tricks” and Rashford is right up there with those that do.
 

dal

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Reminds me a lot of Rooney, nothing player one minute, world class the next.

If we manage to get a world class striker, we are good.

Rashford, Kane, Antony, Garnacho, Sancho, G**d.
 

Raven

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I'm not entirely sure about this.

Without Casemiro, we're hanging in there.

Without Rashford, would we get any goals?
Nahh, Casemiro is comfortably our best player in my mind, has 0 weaknesses and transforms us as a team. Rashford great, especially lately but I'd be hard pressed to name a better player in the league than Casemiro.
 

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Haters have been quiet for some time.
Haters is such a stupid term, at least with regard to any half-way rational fan. I criticized Rashford big-time last season as I thought he was diabolical; stunningly so for a player who had shown such promise. I'm elated that he's now becoming the player we all imagined, but that doesn't change how badly he sucked last season.
 

Trequartistry

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Haters have been quiet for some time.
this might not be the best metric but he was 81 rated this FIFA and priced 6.5 on FPL, that’s telling how tragic he was last season. Sometimes people aren’t haters just rightly critical of an underperforming player
 

Teja

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His bag of tricks is actually quite extensive. Probably more so than Mbappe, who really is primarily just an out and out pace merchant when it comes to beating a player. Wingers do not routinely beat premier league quality defenders with “tricks” and Rashford is right up there with those that do.
Come on man, you know what guys like Sterling, Grealish, Mitoma etc. do. Rashford's not that player. To an extent Salah and Mane too even though they have a different style from the aforementioned 3.

Rashford's not that player.

If Salah was 1v1 against a fullback you knew he was going to get that shot away. Rashford 1v1 with a fullback it used to almost never happen. This year he's improved a little in that regard, rode the challenge a couple of times and scored.
 

Threesus

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I guarantee he is going to drop the biggest stinker of the season against Barcelona. You can bet your house on that.
 

El Jefe

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I don't mean to be that guy but he's actually focusing on his football. Prior to this season, his team seemed much more interested in raising his profile off the field and insulating him from any criticism with the constant briefs.

I'm not certain but he seems to have made massive changes with how he's represented off the field. There were so many leeches around him trying to profit off of him and I really think it all got too much for him.

His social media now all seems to be football related posts. There was a period it looked like he fell out of love with the sport but now he is buzzing and I love it.
 

Rolaholic

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I guarantee he is going to drop the biggest stinker of the season against Barcelona. You can bet your house on that.
He typically rises to the occasion in our big ties so not sure he'll allow that from himself in the form he's in.

He's not Harry Kane
 

NLunited

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It has always been clear there is a great player in there. He has got his head on straight now and teammates that create space for him.
 

KeanoMagicHat

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I'm not entirely sure about this.

Without Casemiro, we're hanging in there.

Without Rashford, would we get any goals?
I guess we don't know unless Rashford was missing for 3-4 games, but I think we are clearly worse in defence and attacking without Casemiro. We have a few talented forwards that have a far higher ceiling than our other midfielders do. Sancho, Antony and Garnacho all have another gear to hit if confidence and experience comes. McTominay and Fred are not getting better.
 
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