He should say something on the lines of "Anyone who says Bruno asked to be subbed is a liar". Rest the Sun and Daily Mail will add.Million percent Ten Hag will be asked about it as soon as he meets the press. Think he'll speak the truth too.
It was a joke. But for some reason, a lot of people seem to think that this is a one off and United will bounce back. Personally I'm not that sure and there's still a lot of points to play for from here, people are talking like the season is about to end and United are safe with top 4 and a trophy. I wouldn't be hugely surprised if United limp over the line from here, but we'll see.Is that a good thing? The last thing I'd want if we lost like that to Arsenal or Spurs are the players getting away with little to no attention. I'd go as far as saying I'd want most if not all the players that got significant minutes in that match completely out of the next matchday squad.
Exactly and I've a bigger problem with him repeatedly calling Bruno a whinger, than this sub comment, for that very reason. That reputation will stick and refs will be less likely to pay attention to complaints from him as Captain over it.Anyone who says it is no big deal what pundits say need a reality check. The pundits and the media drive the narrative in the country. Everyone from FA to the refs are affected by it.
Be it VAR, penalties, fouls given by the ref., everything is affected by the media talk.
Unusual to see duffer making a bit of a tit of himself in this thread, usually a great poster.So you haven't even seen the 'incident' you are arguing about. Brilliant.
Think he's just on the WUMUnusual to see duffer making a bit of a tit of himself in this thread, usually a great poster.
Yeah totally, I'm glad we all agree Martinez is too short for the PL, some real weight behind these pundits and their opinions. When they say something out loud, I just go blank and take everything they say as the gospel truth. It's impossible to form your own opinion after hours of watching players once they make a single claim on live TV.Anyone who says it is no big deal what pundits say need a reality check. The pundits and the media drive the narrative in the country. Everyone from FA to the refs are affected by it.
Be it VAR, penalties, fouls given by the ref., everything is affected by the media talk.
What? Surely, if Bruno get's booked for whining at refs and therefore gets a reputation for it. it's on him and his whinging, not Gary Neville making a comment about him doing the thing that got him booked?Exactly and I've a bigger problem with him repeatedly calling Bruno a whinger, than this sub comment, for that very reason. That reputation will stick and refs will be less likely to pay attention to complaints from him as Captain over it.
Fair enough but at the very least the main culprits should be made an example of, even if it's just for one game.Have you seen what the squad would be like if we dropped everyone who played significant minutes on Sunday?
So are you trying to say that pundits that played the game to a high level are wrong about Martinez being too short for the PL? Or Casemiro being a not great midfielder? Are you going to argue with Liverpool being the best team in Europe while City won almost every league and Madrid almost every CL? What informs you to say things like that? Reality aside.Yeah totally, I'm glad we all agree Martinez is too short for the PL, some real weight behind these pundits and their opinions. When they say something out loud, I just go blank and take everything they say as the gospel truth. It's impossible to form your own opinion after hours of watching players once they make a single claim on live TV.
Ya right, because that is what we are talking about.Yeah totally, I'm glad we all agree Martinez is too short for the PL, some real weight behind these pundits and their opinions. When they say something out loud, I just go blank and take everything they say as the gospel truth. It's impossible to form your own opinion after hours of watching players once they make a single claim on live TV.
Gary Neville is a murderer.How do we know that?
Cant fecking waitMillion percent Ten Hag will be asked about it as soon as he meets the press. Think he'll speak the truth too.
He is not. That is too far. A supporter of russian criminals and dictators as long as he is getting paid yes, but a criminal he is not.Gary Neville is a murderer.
(How do you know he is not?)
Maybe the second part but when he's eating he's entirely justified in saying what he saidFair enough, sounds like he should have made more effort then
Its been reported heavily, and if you see the footage he didnt ask for shit.How do we know that?
Only thing embarrassing about that is that he wouldn't say anything remotely similar about the likes of Shaw, Maguire, Rooney, etc. Why aren't people calling him racist? He literally talks shite exclusively about non English players.
Only thing embarrassing about that is that he wouldn't say anything remotely similar about the likes of Shaw, Maguire, Rooney, etc. Why aren't people calling him racist? He literally talks shite about non English players.
Nobody else is calling him a whinger and Gary isn't saying it about anyone else. He specifically uses the term whinging in relation to Bruno rather than using a word like complaining. He gets far too emotional and he should be more aware of the potential impact.What? Surely, if Bruno get's booked for whining at refs and therefore gets a reputation for it. it's on him and his whinging, not Gary Neville making a comment about him doing the thing that got him booked?
It's not like Neville is wishing his behaviour into existence and referees were impervious to it before Neville said anything. He fecking moans all the time!
I don't honestly know how anyone could deny he's a whinger who hits the deck with little provocation. I'm as United as they come and it irritates the shite out of me. He should just get on with it.
this thread and fans hard on for Neville is mental.
you’ve got a poster moaning that Gary Neville is going at Fernandes for being a whinger and the direct post below that is a poster calling Fernandes a whinger.
Gary Neville better not say that though, Christ no that is damaging the club.
He didn't go at Bruno because he was just a whinger, he said lies about Bruno wanting to be subbed off, and then called him a disgrace. That's absolutely unprofessional and lacking any sense.
this thread and fans hard on for Neville is mental.
you’ve got a poster moaning that Gary Neville is going at Fernandes for being a whinger and the direct post below that is a poster calling Fernandes a whinger.
Gary Neville better not say that though, Christ no that is damaging the club.
Bruno didn't ask to be subbed. There is nothing big/clear enough to indicate he wanted to. Gary made a statement that Bruno asked to be subbed and then attack him for it. That's literally fake news. Fake news = news that is fake. He literally spreads misinformation about Bruno.
No need to derail it by mentioning Covid or flat earth. If you have an argument/proof that what Gary did is not fake news, post it, and don't derail.
I agree but not if it means losing the next game because you've sent out a bunch of kids.Fair enough but at the very least the main culprits should be made an example of, even if it's just for one game.
I feel you need send some sort of strong message that losing like that to your main rivals is beyond unacceptable.
Yes. Innocent until proven guilty…How do you know that it's true??
He was in bits watching us get stuffed by Liverpool and Bruno had been a moaning whinge bag, he said what he thought was happening. It was wrong but he’s not out there spreading lies for gods sake. He got it wrong he should apologise. Don’t let me stop you hating him and calling him a racist though, carry on.He didn't go at Bruno because he was just a whinger, he said lies about Bruno wanting to be subbed off, and then called him a disgrace. That's absolutely unprofessional and lacking any sense.
Find me one time he said anything similar about any English player playing for any club in the world, and I'll find you 100 worse performances by our players than Bruno's against Liverpool.
It seems you have no argument/proof that can support your point and keep trying to derail. You don't get to redefine English. Fake news is just news that is fake. I didn't put it on "". You did."Fake news" is a nonsense term that belongs with flat earth, you brought it up. Don't derail.
Well, I think probably the best way for Bruno to shake the reputation of being a whinger is to stop whinging, no? Or is it primarily up to Gary to sort that out?Nobody else is calling him a whinger and Gary isn't saying it about anyone else. He specifically uses the term whinging in relation to Bruno rather than using a word like complaining. He gets far too emotional and he should be more aware of the potential impact.
Officials do treat players differently based on their reputation and someone like Neville repeatedly banging that point home on Sky can affect how he's seen in general. It doesn't change the behaviour but it can change how it's perceived.
Name one player that has unfairly had a reputation for something that was started by a pundit.Nobody else is calling him a whinger and Gary isn't saying it about anyone else. He specifically uses the term whinging in relation to Bruno rather than using a word like complaining. He gets far too emotional and he should be more aware of the potential impact.
Officials do treat players differently based on their reputation and someone like Neville repeatedly banging that point home on Sky can affect how he's seen in general. It doesn't change the behaviour but it can change how it's perceived.
Bruno isn’t the only player moaning at refs? Keano loved it, Rooney did it constantly, the whole arsenal team did it at that time, all of Europe still do it…does it work for Bruno and us often? Maybe it does hard to say if it buys him free kicks/fouls/puts his marker off/gets a ref thinking a certain way in a game perhaps it does as we’ve only lost about once in the past 20 odd games right.Well, I think probably the best way for Bruno to shake the reputation of being a whinger is to stop whinging, no? Or is it primarily up to Gary to sort that out?
Madness that people think Bruno’s whinging is the fault of Gary Neville for mentioning it???Well, I think probably the best way for Bruno to shake the reputation of being a whinger is to stop whinging, no? Or is it primarily up to Gary to sort that out?
That’s nonsense and you know it. There's a difference in a commentator getting something in play wrong (a penalty call, a red card tackle etc) and then saying blatantly 'HE WANTS TO GET SUBBED OFF OMG THAT'S DISGRACEFUL'. What other instance can you think of where a commentator has done something to that degree?He's paid to give his opinion on what's happening in the game. He might be wrong but commentators get shit wrong all the time.
It's football, he's not spreading Covid miss-information or saying the earth is flat. "Fake news", give me a break.
Nobody called him a whinger til Neville did and now everyone is at it. It seems a tad unfair especially as he's supposed to be a United fan.Well, I think probably the best way for Bruno to shake the reputation of being a whinger is to stop whinging, no? Or is it primarily up to Gary to sort that out?
I hate to break it to you but Neville didn’t start that. Also, how many bookings does he have for dissent? Like 1, 2? How can he have a reputation for something he never gets booked for?Nobody called him a whinger til Neville did and now everyone is at it. It seems a tad unfair especially as he's supposed to be a United fan.
So you give Gary a pass because we were losing 7-0 but not the captain of the side who were losing 7-0?He was in bits watching us get stuffed by Liverpool and Bruno had been a moaning whinge bag, he said what he thought was happening. It was wrong but he’s not out there spreading lies for gods sake. He got it wrong he should apologise. Don’t let me stop you hating him and calling him a racist though, carry on.
You're kidding, Withnail! The term was made for him. My 13 year old has been calling him a whinger for years and he loves him. He's one of life's great whingers. Gary is far from the first to remark on it.Nobody called him a whinger til Neville did and now everyone is at it. It seems a tad unfair especially as he's supposed to be a United fan.
Actually he is, go back to the end of his first season or especially last season it was Neville is a Scouser that started that shit. Neville by the way was a whinging cnut when he was a player so theres another reason for him to stfuYou're kidding, Withnail! The term was made for him. My 13 year old has been calling him a whinger for years and he loves him. He's one of life's great whingers. Gary is far from the first to remark on it.