Million percent Ten Hag will be asked about it as soon as he meets the press. Think he'll speak the truth too.
Gary Neville
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He should say something on the lines of "Anyone who says Bruno asked to be subbed is a liar". Rest the Sun and Daily Mail will add.
It was a joke. But for some reason, a lot of people seem to think that this is a one off and United will bounce back. Personally I'm not that sure and there's still a lot of points to play for from here, people are talking like the season is about to end and United are safe with top 4 and a trophy. I wouldn't be hugely surprised if United limp over the line from here, but we'll see.
Exactly and I've a bigger problem with him repeatedly calling Bruno a whinger, than this sub comment, for that very reason. That reputation will stick and refs will be less likely to pay attention to complaints from him as Captain over it.
Unusual to see duffer making a bit of a tit of himself in this thread, usually a great poster.
Think he's just on the WUM
Yeah totally, I'm glad we all agree Martinez is too short for the PL, some real weight behind these pundits and their opinions. When they say something out loud, I just go blank and take everything they say as the gospel truth. It's impossible to form your own opinion after hours of watching players once they make a single claim on live TV.
What? Surely, if Bruno get's booked for whining at refs and therefore gets a reputation for it. it's on him and his whinging, not Gary Neville making a comment about him doing the thing that got him booked?
It's not like Neville is wishing his behaviour into existence and referees were impervious to it before Neville said anything. He fecking moans all the time!
Fair enough but at the very least the main culprits should be made an example of, even if it's just for one game.
I feel you need send some sort of strong message that losing like that to your main rivals is beyond unacceptable.
So are you trying to say that pundits that played the game to a high level are wrong about Martinez being too short for the PL? Or Casemiro being a not great midfielder? Are you going to argue with Liverpool being the best team in Europe while City won almost every league and Madrid almost every CL? What informs you to say things like that? Reality aside.
Ya right, because that is what we are talking about.
Cant fecking wait
He is not. That is too far. A supporter of russian criminals and dictators as long as he is getting paid yes, but a criminal he is not.
Maybe the second part but when he's eating he's entirely justified in saying what he said
Its been reported heavily, and if you see the footage he didnt ask for shit.
Only thing embarrassing about that is that he wouldn't say anything remotely similar about the likes of Shaw, Maguire, Rooney, etc. Why aren't people calling him racist? He literally talks shite exclusively about non English players.
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this thread and fans hard on for Neville is mental.
you’ve got a poster moaning that Gary Neville is going at Fernandes for being a whinger and the direct post below that is a poster calling Fernandes a whinger.
Gary Neville better not say that though, Christ no that is damaging the club.
Nobody else is calling him a whinger and Gary isn't saying it about anyone else. He specifically uses the term whinging in relation to Bruno rather than using a word like complaining. He gets far too emotional and he should be more aware of the potential impact.
Officials do treat players differently based on their reputation and someone like Neville repeatedly banging that point home on Sky can affect how he's seen in general. It doesn't change the behaviour but it can change how it's perceived.
I don't honestly know how anyone could deny he's a whinger who hits the deck with little provocation. I'm as United as they come and it irritates the shite out of me. He should just get on with it.
this thread and fans hard on for Neville is mental.
you’ve got a poster moaning that Gary Neville is going at Fernandes for being a whinger and the direct post below that is a poster calling Fernandes a whinger.
Gary Neville better not say that though, Christ no that is damaging the club.
Calling him gutless is another thing.
He didn't go at Bruno because he was just a whinger, he said lies about Bruno wanting to be subbed off, and then called him a disgrace. That's absolutely unprofessional and lacking any sense.
this thread and fans hard on for Neville is mental.
you’ve got a poster moaning that Gary Neville is going at Fernandes for being a whinger and the direct post below that is a poster calling Fernandes a whinger.
Gary Neville better not say that though, Christ no that is damaging the club.
Find me one time he said anything similar about any English player playing for any club in the world, and I'll find you 100 worse performances by our players than Bruno's against Liverpool.
"Fake news" is a nonsense term that belongs with flat earth, you brought it up. Don't derail.
I agree but not if it means losing the next game because you've sent out a bunch of kids.
You'd maybe drop one or two if they were particularly bad but if it's the whole team then give them a bollocking and give them a chance to immediately turn it around.
Yes. Innocent until proven guilty…
He was in bits watching us get stuffed by Liverpool and Bruno had been a moaning whinge bag, he said what he thought was happening. It was wrong but he’s not out there spreading lies for gods sake. He got it wrong he should apologise. Don’t let me stop you hating him and calling him a racist though, carry on.
Absolutely dropped the ball by slandering Bruno. Idiot. Should focus on kissing his mates' arses on that excuse of a discussion show.
It seems you have no argument/proof that can support your point and keep trying to derail. You don't get to redefine English. Fake news is just news that is fake. I didn't put it on "". You did.
The point is Gary spread misinformation about Bruno without any evidence. Call it whatever you want. Fake news. Misinformation. Lying. Etc.
I said what needed to be said. Your refusal to prove/argue your point say enough. I am a bit disappointed since you are a staff, but whatever.
Well, I think probably the best way for Bruno to shake the reputation of being a whinger is to stop whinging, no? Or is it primarily up to Gary to sort that out?
Name one player that has unfairly had a reputation for something that was started by a pundit.
Bruno isn’t the only player moaning at refs? Keano loved it, Rooney did it constantly, the whole arsenal team did it at that time, all of Europe still do it…does it work for Bruno and us often? Maybe it does hard to say if it buys him free kicks/fouls/puts his marker off/gets a ref thinking a certain way in a game perhaps it does as we’ve only lost about once in the past 20 odd games right.
Madness that people think Bruno’s whinging is the fault of Gary Neville for mentioning it???
He pushed a linesman, kept going down soft holding his face then moaning at the ref over it, but yeah, Neville’s fault I guess…
I’m starting to believe that the only people worried about Neville’s omnipotent influence are the ones that are actually influenced by the things he says.
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That’s nonsense and you know it. There's a difference in a commentator getting something in play wrong (a penalty call, a red card tackle etc) and then saying blatantly 'HE WANTS TO GET SUBBED OFF OMG THAT'S DISGRACEFUL'. What other instance can you think of where a commentator has done something to that degree?
Nobody called him a whinger til Neville did and now everyone is at it. It seems a tad unfair especially as he's supposed to be a United fan.
I hate to break it to you but Neville didn’t start that. Also, how many bookings does he have for dissent? Like 1, 2? How can he have a reputation for something he never gets booked for?
I wonder whether he berates his wife the whole time, when she doesn't measure up to his exacting standards, because he loves her so much.
Have to feel sorry for his kids, who must make numerous mistakes in their day to day lives. He must slaughter them, shades of "Competitive Dad" (Fast Show character).
Have to feel sorry for his kids, who must make numerous mistakes in their day to day lives. He must slaughter them, shades of "Competitive Dad" (Fast Show character).
So you give Gary a pass because we were losing 7-0 but not the captain of the side who were losing 7-0?
He was moaning at Bruno when we were winning 2-0 in a cup final for feck sake.
Every player decking moans. Grealish moans and complains every times he’s brought down yet find me articles chastising him for this, a player who is far, far, less productive than Bruno.
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You're kidding, Withnail! The term was made for him. My 13 year old has been calling him a whinger for years and he loves him. He's one of life's great whingers. Gary is far from the first to remark on it.
Utter utter wank from Neville
Actually he is, go back to the end of his first season or especially last season it was Neville is a Scouser that started that shit. Neville by the way was a whinging cnut when he was a player so theres another reason for him to stfu