Trent can’t defend

[Chief123]

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He doesn’t half talk some bollocks. The last time he spent so long analysing a defender it went something like “I don’t think Martinez in a back 4 can work in the premier league”.

He’s got some bizarre logic. He thinks Liverpool can’t qualify for top regularly with Trent in the team. Someone needs to remind him they have been doing exactly that for a number of years.

Yes Trent is shit at defending but Liverpools whole team has become shit. That’s the main problem.

 

[Edwards6]

He's playing like he believes all the hype, it's like he thinks he's so good on the ball he doesn't need to work hard and try and defend but he's a liability and its great to see.
The only surprise is that Klopp is letting him get away with it, when Liverpool were doing well it was all about high intensity and out-working the opposition but now the rest of the team isn't covering for him Trent is being exposed

 

[Loon]

Looking forward to the 0/4 tweet.

 

[Maluco]

Klopp’s biggest issue is neglecting his midfield that covered for Trent.

He gave up trying to inject new energy into it with Naby Keita, and that was about 6 years ago. He just waited until it aged and his only other move was to bring in an aging Thiago in that period. It’s no surprised that United have gotten better after they bought their first proper midfielder in a decade. It’s the most crucial area of the pitch.

He has watched Milner and Henderson get older and has done nothing about it and Trent has been totally exposed.

 

[Gazza]

He doesn’t half talk some bollocks. The last time he spent so long analysing a defender it went something like “I don’t think Martinez in a back 4 can work in the premier league”.

He’s got some bizarre logic. He thinks Liverpool can’t qualify for top regularly with Trent in the team. Someone needs to remind him they have been doing exactly that for a number of years.

Yes Trent is shit at defending but Liverpools whole team has become shit. That’s the main problem.

I like Jamie Carragher, but he acts like he wasn’t throwing a wobbly when Gary Neville tried to explain to him why Gareth Southgate wasn’t picking TAA.

 

[York]

Watch him just sit back and watch as the goal developed. He had the best seat in the house while VVD worked his a$$ off trying to stop Vinicius and Benzema. He's a very good footballer but a terrible defender. No instincts for it.

 

[roonster09]

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Somehow people say how amazing Carra is, he talks so much shit but somehow gets free pass.

 

[Josh 76]

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I’ve noticed Carragher say numerous times “they have won everything” when it comes to the Liverpool players and manager. it’s like he thinks that’s the reason why they are all legends.

The big difference in his mentality and Gary Neville’s was that, Fergie and the Utd players were obsessed with the chase rather than actually wining trophies. Wining it once made you a good player, wining it again and again made you a great player.

Carragher will never get that. He is so up he’s own ass, it’s unbelievable!

 

[Amar__]

Defensively he's gotta be the worst fullback in the last 20 years or so? At least from those who were starters in top teams?

The likes of Dani Alves, Marcelo, etc. were another level defensively than him surely.

 

[Lecland07]

Same as most games. Puts 40 crosses in a game, a few are good and thus the myth of having great delivery is born.

Nah, he is a great crosser. He has 62 assists in the last 4.5 seasons.

 

[ThatsGreat]

He'll be moved to midfield eventually. He's like a forward who's been tasked with defending because the regular right back is out of position.

 

[SilentWitness]

Not sure what Carragher has said wrong there. He definitely needs competition and he isn’t good enough in a side that isn’t on top and at the top of their game. Both true. Trent excelled because every facet of that Liverpool team was on top and they had Henderson as the cog to cover for his defensive weakness alongside a VVD at the top of his game. When he’s in a side without that Henderson, and with a drop in quality of everyone around him, he’s exposed massively.

 

[cyberman]

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Hate the way Gary etc get wound up to feck when United lose or underperform but when it’s Liverpool the same windups get to have long, serious conversations and have their feelings spared.

 

[amolbhatia50k]

Defensively he's gotta be the worst fullback in the last 20 years or so? At least from those who were starters in top teams?

The likes of Dani Alves, Marcelo, etc. were another level defensively than him surely.

That’s why I found the best RB ever talk so amusing. He’s never in the same conversation as someone like Adani always no matter how young he started winning things. He’s a shockingly poor defender.

 

[Spaghetti]

He doesn’t half talk some bollocks. The last time he spent so long analysing a defender it went something like “I don’t think Martinez in a back 4 can work in the premier league”.

He’s got some bizarre logic. He thinks Liverpool can’t qualify for top regularly with Trent in the team. Someone needs to remind him they have been doing exactly that for a number of years.

Yes Trent is shit at defending but Liverpools whole team has become shit. That’s the main problem.

The rest of the team that were covering for him?

Watching Liverpool, all I see Trent do is hoof the ball high and far. His crossing is nothing special, it just seems like he aims it towards the box, at nobody in particular, and hopes someone is there. Maybe I’m wrong, but that’s the impression I get.

 

[cyberman]

He'll be moved to midfield eventually. He's like a forward who's been tasked with defending because the regular right back is out of position.

It’s harder to be a midfielder than a RB, especially in the EPL

 

[Mike Smalling]

He defends with a shocking lack of intensity. How many times do you see him just walking around while the opponents are attacking. I think I would consistently lose my shit at him, if he played for us.

 

[Chief123]

The rest of the team that were covering for him?

Watching Liverpool, all I see Trent do is hoof the ball high and far. His crossing is nothing special, it just seems like he aims it towards the box, at nobody in particular, and hopes someone is there. Maybe I’m wrong, but that’s the impression I get.

Come on man. He’s one of the best passer and crossers in the world. His shocking defending doesn’t change that. His weaknesses have always been there. He’s just getting exposed more now because the team has become inferior in all areas. In particular in midfield.

 

[Buchan]

https://www.empireofthekop.com/2022...k-in-the-world-after-his-arsenal-performance/

^ Barely a year ago…

Life comes at you fast.

 

[Moby]

He’s never in the same conversation as someone like Adani

Yeah say anything about him but he's not a fraud billionaire

 

[M Bison]

The rest of the team that were covering for him?

Watching Liverpool, all I see Trent do is hoof the ball high and far. His crossing is nothing special, it just seems like he aims it towards the box, at nobody in particular, and hopes someone is there. Maybe I’m wrong, but that’s the impression I get.

You can criticise a lot of his game but his passing and crossing isnt one of them in my view, i cant be bothered looking but i'm sure he's got one of the highest goal contributions in the PL over the past few years. His ability to pick a pass is as good as anyone.

 

[Galactic]

It’s an exaggeration that’s he’s a bad right back. Not great though. But he’s still good. He doesn’t lack intensity. He does, but more worryingly, he switches off at times. That’s his biggest weakness IMO. He needs to focus more on being a defender than being more proud of assisting and scoring.

 

[Shane88]

Would it be worth trying him as a winger? He has a brilliant delivery and is quick-ish. Whether he can take on full backs successfully would have to be seen.

He has feck all interest in defending.

 

[Shinjch]

To me it isn't so much about whether he can or can't defend, it's his complete lack of effort once things don't work exactly how he would like when in a defensive situation. That just shouldn't happen in any team, let alone a fella who is playing for his boyhood club under a manager who demands intensity. It's strange that it has been allowed to go on for so long with him now.

 

[Murder on Zidane's Floor]

Think I raised it two years ago with a colleague but he needs to play the KDB role, get him the hell away from the defensive line.

 

[golden_blunder]

I always figured he would end in the Beckham role with a good RB covering for him

 

[whitbyviking]

I've never really watched much Liverpool, so have never focused on Trent. Last night he did stand out a bit, as he looked well off the pace, Salah did too but that's another matter.

Is Trent usually slow? I know Vini is quick, but he had him on toast a few times last night and Trent looked scared to touch him.

Did chuckle when Vini knocked the ball past Salah and ran around him too, almost pulling it off

 

[MegadrivePerson]

Watched the match last night and was shocked at how little effort Trent puts in. I'm getting Dele Ali vibes from him. Looks like he's lost his desire to play football.

 

[Rockets Redglare]

Think I raised it two years ago with a colleague but he needs to play the KDB role, get him the hell away from the defensive line.

He doesn’t have anywhere near the work ethic to play in midfield.

 

[Sandikan]

Neh I aint having that, his cross field balls/crosses are excellent.

Absolutely can't defend though.

They aren't all though. he just had an exceptionally high rate of knocking them in.
Last night's ball were generally average/poor.

 

[Sandikan]

Not good enough offensively to be a winger.
Not good enough defensively to be a full back.

Nearly man in every sense.

Agreed. There's no chance he'd cut it as a winger in a 4-3-3. Hasn't got the mix of speed/dribbling/tricks needed at all.
The right back in a team with a big centre mid block, with a worldly like Van Dijk to mop up was the perfect system to hide the defensive issues for a long time.

Drop the centre mid and Van D levels off significantly, and he's there to be got at.
You can understand some of the top wingers in the world giving him problems 1-2-1, but it's the lack of marking players a yard or 2 away is really bizarre.

 

[Sandikan]

Nah, he is a great crosser. He has 62 assists in the last 4.5 seasons.

When you knock 40-50 crosses in a game, chances are quite a few will result in something!

 

[Sandikan]

I always figured he would end in the Beckham role with a good RB covering for him

There is no Beckham role in top class football these days though. Almost no-one plays 4-4-2.

Beckham would have to be a deep lying midfielder, and you just can't imagine Trent there as people will just run through him.

 

[RedRocket9908]

I hope Gareth hasnt included him in the England squad, he is useless in England's system and surely there are better options available.

 

[DJ Jeff]

Rare you see such visible arrogance and nonchalance from a defender

 

[World Game]

He defends like Mo Salah would at RB. Like as if defending is beneath him and he needs to conserve all his energy for attack.

 

[caid]

I dont think his passing makes up for how shit he is in so many other regards. They 100% need a new right back to challenge him, him being a crap defender is one thing, not being bothered defending is another. He needs someone who'll just take his place and not give it back if he isn't busting a gut every week.
I'd still want to replace him long term. They might return to a level where they can get away with it against mid level teams like brighton or whoever but they'll never be good enough to protect him against the likes of Real or Bayern. Maybe budget forces me to make use of him but i wouldn't be too happy about it.

 

[M Bison]

He's no where near as bad as is being made out in this thread, has his weaknesses defensively, but so do plenty of RB's (look no further than Dalot!) Liverpool are playing poorly at the moment and he's aligned with the overall teams performance, same with Rashford last season.

As others have said, i'd be tempted to play him further forward, possibly in a midfield 3.

 

[Rex Banner]

I’ve noticed Carragher say numerous times “they have won everything” when it comes to the Liverpool players and manager. it’s like he thinks that’s the reason why they are all legends.

The big difference in his mentality and Gary Neville’s was that, Fergie and the Utd players were obsessed with the chase rather than actually wining trophies. Wining it once made you a good player, wining it again and again made you a great player.

Carragher will never get that. He is so up he’s own ass, it’s unbelievable!

Did you watch the whole clip? Because he basically makes that exact same point.

 

[Andycoleno9]

Such a shame that we didn't test him with Rashy. Vinicius destroyed him