Gavi over Foden? Come on
In an open market: 5 most valuable players in the world?
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Pedri has 3 years left, that’s why you don’t hear about it.
And I am not sure he’ll stay at Barca when the time comes. It’s not like he’s from there. And the club is not what it was.
And somehow that's Haaland's fault? There are a lot of other factors that come into play here other than signing Haaland. He's a goal scoring record breaker. If Haaland played for City a few years back, they would be better than they were with Gabriel Jesus.
Put Mbappe in the City squad and he scores the same amount whilst contributing more.
Foden is ridiculously overrated for me. He has no clear position. He's a moment's player, doesn't look elite in any single role, has some great touches but doesn't really excel at being a playmaker nor a scorer. Doesn't even get in England's strongest 11 for me (regardless of what Southgate does). That would easily be Saka and Rashford on the wings for me, and then Bellingham, Maddison and rice in the midfield 3. The only role Foden has shown he can excel in on a half consistent basis is on the left wing so far in his career... And he's never shown the form that Rashford has this season or 19/20 Rashford.
So no. Foden isn't close to this list. Gavi is a phenomenal 18 year old midfielder who is a better player than Foden already. Guy is overhyped because he plays a different way to most English players when he's not even one of the very best current English talents. Also arguably the most punchable face in football.
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he's played in an absurdly dominant side against pathetic opponents for years. Really not how football works.Kane is 29 and has only hit 40+ goals in a club season once. Haaland is 22 and has managed it for Dortmund once and is on course to break 50 with City this season.
Kane also has 287 goals in his whole club career while Haaland is on 197 goals. Haaland is on course to beat Kane quite comfortably.
I’d seriously consider selling Rashford to accommodate Kvaratskhelia. Maybe lunacy maybe not, time will tell.
Presumably that takes current contract length into consideration?
So.... score goals. And neither have won anything significant.
Whats Mbappes excuse for scoring less in Ligue 1 on a ultra-stacked PSG team in relation to the rest of the league?
There is a difference between the number of goals Haaland is scoring and the goals that Kane is scoring, Haaland is breaking records consistently, he is doing things that no other player is right now. Haaland has won multiple trophies already.
Interesting. This reminds me of something that was being discussed on the 'Caught Offside' podcast, where they imagined there being a 'world draft', like the NBA or NFL draft except with footballers across the globe. They debated who would be the number one pick. One guy said Kvaratskhelia (which is Interesting, I'm not sure I'd go there just yet, much as I like his game) and the other said Mbappe, more conventionally.
The pokal and titles in some weak leagues. The similarities I see between him and Kane is that their impressive goal scoring benefits their individual records, but this season Haaland could win feck all just like Kane. At least his excuse is he plays for Spurs.
Honestly would you take Pedri or Musiala? I'm not sure either is exactly nailed on to get to Modric, Iniesta, Zidane sort of levels but out of the 2 I'm saying Musiala has the better chance. He'd be an absolutely massive wedge if he was to move I should think.
Kvaratskhelia will probably win the Ballon D’or so not that controversial. Still wouldn’t trade the current Rashford for him though.
why not both?
Can't believe Rashford, Ødegaard and Rodri are all below Declan Rice in that list!
Whereas Haaland has come into an absurdly dominant side and made it worse.What
If City had Mbappe instead of Haaland I personally think they'd be doing better in the league and Mbappe would have a similar number of goals to Haaland.
It's not really an excuse. Kane has flopped in every final he has played. At least Haaland showed up and scored two goals in his. CL top scorer and PL top scorer currently too, he's by far the best goalscorer on the planet and doing things Kane can only dream of. Kane has eight hat tricks in total in the PL. Haaland is already on four. He's already surpassed him in terms of career hat-tricks. He's miles ahead of him as a goalscorer.
Maybe the fact he's been injured. Maybe the fact he has to share the goals around with Messi and Neymar. Or maybe it's because he was busy winning the golden boot and scoring a hatrick in the final against Argentina at the World Cup while Haaland had his feet up waiting to stat pad against Leipzig and Burnley.
Haaland is obviously a ridiculous striker, but he's scored in exactly the same number of club games as Marcus Rashford this season(who also had the World Cup to deal with). If he helps City overcome Arsenal in the league or finally win the CL then fair enough, but it's not a stretch to say he hasn't made them a better team or that around half of his goals are absolutely meaningless.
Mbappe is a more complete player than Haaland, that's not up for debate. He's also sharing the spotlight with arguably two of the greatest and most marketable forwards in world football.
You can starve Haaland of service and he'd look very poor - as he did a couple of months ago. But score 5 against mediocre opponents in the CL and everyone is losing their shit.
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Get a fecking grip
HE has made it worse by breaking goal scoring records? It has nothing to do with the fact that their squad is aging, they lost Sterling who was vital to their style of play, Pep has seemingly lost his fire, Cancelo couldn't even make the squad anymore despite being last season's best left back by far and other players just seem to have lost their desire. Hmm, no. It's Haaland's fault Take his unbeatable record of 9 goals in a game at the U20 World Cup: they still failed to qualify from the group stage. He just battered Honduras into fourth place.
I'm not saying I wouldn't bite your hand off to have him upfront over Wout Weghorst, but Mbappé almost single-handedly turned around a World Cup final. I can't see robocop doing anything like it.
it’s Henry vs Ruud all over again. Everyone who even occasionally watches football can see that Mbappe is easily the better player.Get a fecking grip
So... Norway would have been better off without his goals?
Of course he is the better player overall, I don't think anyone is debating that. The poster claimed Haaland made City a worse team than they were.
insightfulRashford and Saka.
Dortmund will push for 130-150 for Bellingham off a English side.
I don’t think he made them better either. He will get you goals naturally but I’d rather have someone like Kun who will score a bit less yet show up when it matters the most.
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He didn't necessarily make them better, but this City team is worse than a few years back, but it has nothing to do with Haaland. I'd probably have Agüero over him too, but then again he's one of my favorite players ever.
I'm glad you found that amusing, although I don't understand why. His last 5 seasons with City, he won the Premier League 4 times, having between 18 and and 29 goal contributions each season in Premier League alone which is around 1/3 and 1/4 of City's total goals. He had incredible off-the-ball movement and was a constant threat. He had some funny misses, but take a look at his stats again because you seem to have forgotten it.
17-18: 18 goals, 11 assists
18-19: 17 goals, 9 assists
19-20: 20 goals, 1 assist
20-21: 10 goals, 7 assists
21-22: 13 goals, 5 assists
It's a nonsense website that's why.
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Mbappé has pretty much the same goal per 90mn stat in the CL against top teams so this argument is getting really old in 2023. On top of that and since he's not a striker, he has to share his goals with more players (Neymar, Di Maria before that, Messi now) compared to Haaland who is the tip of City's offense (and Dortumund before that).
Ligue 1 is a league that has huge coaching issues and a lack of quality especially in the midfield. But if there's one thing that Ligue 1 knows how to do is shape top defenders. Pretty much any top team in europe has a center back who played in Ligue 1.
Why wouldn't it be the other way around, that Pep's system made Sterling look better? Almost everyone else played better last season, especially Mahrez and De Bruyne, who spends most games trying to find Haaland rather than scoring himself.
That's what I'm saying. Sterling was perfect for Pep's style and was very coachable so he improved drastically with Pep's tactical offensive game.