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Ole Gunnar Solskjær | Managerial Watch | Reports: Being considered for Canada job
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
Feel sorry for Brugge fans..
That happened in two different seasons and only Martial and Rashford got over 20 goals that season.
Oh and that 2nd bolded sentence is definitely debatable.
Yeah that's my point ? What are you talking about ?
That's exactly what I said. Crystal Palace don't give a shit about him finishing 2nd and 3rd with United while splashing 300m to get these "achievements". They only care about a manager who can grind out results with midtable squad and keep them in the league every year. That requires a manager that can actually work with average or below average players, squeeze the best of them and know how to grind results. Does Ole serve this purpose ? No. Does the likes of Moyes serve it ? Yes.
Meanwhile top clubs also won't give a shit about a manager finishing distant 2nd and 3rd and winning nothing while splashing 300m. That's where Ole is.
Rashford is at his best currently under Ten Hag. I'll give you Greenwood but that's about it. That's 2-3 players he has improved over the course of 3 years. Hardly an achievement for a midtable club with an average squad to look at.
There's no reason for these clubs to think of Ole as a savior who can get the team to safety midway in a season.
Bar getting stronger, Greenwood didn’t actually improve much in his game.
Jesus Christ we're not starting this shit again are we? "He's a shit manager who deserves nothing." "No he's not." "Yes he is." "No he's not." "Yes he is." ad nauseam for another 15 pages until everyone gets bored and pisses off for another three months until this nonsense starts again. Let it go for feck sake.
You could just exit the thread
Or I could comment on how it's just the same thing again and again.
Why is that?
Why is it debatable?
It's so lolz, ha ha ha
And I can comment on the pointless of posting on the Caf yet here we are
Maybe the same posters who have "Jose is my hero" tatoo on their arse"
I don't think there's much difference in the quality of those seasons. The competition for the top 4 is tougher this time than in Ole's first full season where he got 66 points.
Look at all those poor premier league clubs changing and changing managers without realizing there's a European cup finalist and 2nd and 3rd place finished available.
If only they knew.
If only they knew.
Liverpool and Chelsea weren’t in 8th and 11th place, in fact Chelsea won the CL in that second year.
It’s only Brighton who isn’t absolutely shit outside of the top 4 at the minute. It’s been an atrocious year quality wise in the EPL
Pretty sure the Athletic had reported a while back he's had offers but he's rejected them all.
If Lampard can manage in the Prem, so can Ole.
Ole is a better manager than Moyes. He was more of a success than LVG.
Here we are indeed. This is obviously a thread for discussing Ole's future managerial endeavours, who he might end up with and how he might get so obviously there's wriggle room for speculating on his suitability for each job which is fair enough but why do people keep leaping in to heap shit on the guy for nothing?And I can comment on the pointless of posting on the Caf yet here we are
Fair enough if you think he's not good enough to be manager. And fair enough if you think the job he did at the club wasn't good enough. I ultimately feel that he wasn't the man to lead us back to the top and he definitely needed to go, especially on the back of that Watford defeat. But it's another thing entirely to suggest that no club anywhere will have the guy when it's been demonstrated time and time again that many top clubs aren't always choosey about who they go for and there have been managers of worse calibres who have had higher rated jobs.
But ultimately in reading this out I realise that nothing I type matters, no-one's going to agree with me and I'm ultimately going to be dismissed as a deluded, unambitious idiot who knows nothing about football so there was probably no point in even posting here but I wanted to anyway if only for the sake of my sanity.
Anyway I'd love to read about his suitability for specific clubs and where he might thrive but it'll be instead be that he's a shit manager and he was completely shit with us and all the tired cliches that follow.
Anyway I'm not saying anything major either way. Feck it, I'm going to get drunk and start a fight.
He might've been a better fit at Man United but I'd absolutely put him below those two overall (especially Van Gaal) as a manager.
Yeh Van Gaal is absolutely a better manager who did worse than Ole at United. But I still stand by Moyes being shite.
At least that's what the world of football thinks given how Lampard and Marsch are still getting interest from clubs and Ole is not.
Doesn't matter, Arsenal took Liverpool's place and Newcastle are miles better than Chelsea under Lampard which is what Ole was dealing with for most of those two seasons at United. And the 2nd season was quite the farce with being behind closed doors and games getting delayed all the time.
No one that has anything to do with football would even mention Ole in the same category of Moyes and Van Gaal.
Moyes has been a premier league manager for two decades. Van Gaal is even more successful having won trophies at the highest level throughout his career. Ole has no business next to these names.
Forget these two, Sam Allardyce has a better standing than Ole as a manager. If you want a proper comparison it would be champions league winner Di Matteo.
Wish Ole the best for whatever he decides to do in the future. He is a legend of the club and while his managerial stint at United was below average, he gave his best shot and it was for others to have decided his fate earlier.
Also if others such as Lampard, Hughes, Bruce are getting / previously got multiple PL opportunities despite their failures, no reason why Ole can’t attract a similar level club.
Also if others such as Lampard, Hughes, Bruce are getting / previously got multiple PL opportunities despite their failures, no reason why Ole can’t attract a similar level club.
You keep ignoring people telling you he has rejected offers. You just keep writing what you want to believe.
You have absolutely no idea what he wants.
Unlike Lampard he doesn’t even live in England and I really don’t know what the motivation for him would be to take the Everton or even Leicester job (if offered). He is not going to achieve more there than he did at United.
He has enough money, has managed his dream club and unless he is very keen to be a manager for years to come he is under no pressure to take any job offered to him.
Well no because Ole had 4 years at United not 6 months.
Ole constantly got us CL football. Also a second place. Heights Moyes would only dream of. Sam Allardyce too. These dinosaur managers keep getting jobs because their business model is to grind out points and keep teams in the league. A different beast to managing United.
More respect needs to go with Oles name.
None of them has won the Tippeligaen, they are not fit to lace his boots. Now keep my managers name out of your f***ing mouth.
People were mainly talking here about United managers. I care what Moyes and Co did at United, not elsewhere.
Same way WW doing well in the Bundesliga does nothing for his time and “performances” at United.
Wish him all the best. How any Utd fan can dislike Ole is beyond me. He didn't set us back. The owners and the board did. Ole didn't really do any worse than what came before him really. Actually finished 3rd then 2nd as well which LVG n Jose didn't do. Moyes didn't even make it a season.
How's his house coming along ?
Probably his Cardiff stint that’s really damaging him rather than United to be honest, usually I’d think he’d be linked with something like the Everton job but that’ll be what nips it in the bud. I’m sure he’s also pretty happy chilling out as well.
He would've been a better option than Lampard at Chelsea. Solskjaer gets a lot of flack but he's Guardiola next to Frank.
It never seemed to me that he brought much as a manager besides the feelgood vibes. His status as a club legend carried some weight towards getting the players to make an effort, but in terms of his actual skill at managing a football club, he didn't appear to have more than any of the hundred other coaches who have had a brief stint in the PL but never amounted to anything. He wasn't good at his job, he was just well-liked by the club and effectively had a prolonged stint as interim manager.
If you are a club looking to make an impact in the EPL and dominate games, Ole is not your guy.
but if you are a lower level club with good counter attacking players, he can probably do a decent enough job.... but I don't think " a decent enough job" is what any club would be interested in.
but if you are a lower level club with good counter attacking players, he can probably do a decent enough job.... but I don't think " a decent enough job" is what any club would be interested in.
If reports are true, and why wouldn't they be, that he has received and rejected offers then this whole couple of pages are moot anyway.
What sticks in the chops is how willing people are to still crap on the bloke. It just makes no sense at all, and can only really be because people lost their minds arguing about him for so long. You'd think he was as spectacular a failure as Moyes was at OT the way people talk about him
exactly. Managers can also get better, and we all knew ole was out of his depth managing United at that time in his career but the guy is a hard worker and can very well accelerate his game.
No he isn’t, Moyes is clearly a superior coach than Ole.
No he wasn’t, LvG won a trophy. That’s how success is measured in football.
No (He was backed with more talent though) and still won less