Television Star Wars Universe

[Yagami]

Oh, boy....

The next movie is going to be a Rey Palpatine one. Daisy Ridley is back. I won't be watching but the reactions are going to be fun.

 

[Jev]

Oh, boy....

The next movie is going to be a Rey Palpatine one. Daisy Ridley is back. I won't be watching but the reactions are going to be fun.

Really surprised they decided to return to that clusterfeck of a saga. Seems they've learned nothing from Andor then, which had managed to give me a new hope for Star Wars.

 

[2 man midfield]

Was kinda hoping they’d pretend that whole thing never happened and just move on, but oh well. Not that I’ll see it, so it doesn’t really matter.

 

[Yagami]

Really surprised they decided to return to that clusterfeck of a saga. Seems they've learned nothing from Andor then, which had managed to give me a new hope for Star Wars.

I'm not that surprised. Disney are pretty dumb nowadays, and they'll do anything to get their characters over. Look at what they did to Luke to get Rey over, and then what they did to Obi-Wan to get what'shername over.

They won't rest until they bury the OG characters and establish their ones as the faces of the franchise.

 

[2 man midfield]

I'm not that surprised. Disney are pretty dumb nowadays, and they'll do anything to get their characters over. Look at what they did to Luke to get Rey over, and then what they did to Obi-Wan to get what'shername over.

They won't rest until they bury the OG characters and establish their ones as the faces of the franchise.

They’ve basically done Luke dirty and replaced his character with Rey haven’t they. She’s got his weapon, his last name, his ship, his position as the last Jedi, and now we get to watch as she rebuilds the Jedi order, which is what Luke was apparently doing before Disney stepped in and undid everything that happened in the first 6 films.

It’s the exact same story all over again - poor orphaned desert teenager discovers the force and defeats their evil (grand) father to restore balance to the galaxy. Great job Disney.

 

[Yagami]

They’ve basically done Luke dirty and replaced his character with Rey haven’t they. She’s got his weapon, his last name, his ship, his position as the last Jedi, and now we get to watch as she rebuilds the Jedi order, which is what Luke was apparently doing before Disney stepped in and undid everything that happened in the first 6 films.

It’s the exact same story all over again - poor orphaned desert teenager discovers the force and defeats their evil (grand) father to restore balance to the galaxy. Great job Disney.

It's sad reading this, but, yeah, that's it. Everyone knows Kathleen Kennedy hates Luke, and what Star Wars was in general before Disney.

Looking back, the writing was on the wall when Disney immediately killed the expanded universe. They would've loved to have killed off the first 6 films if they could, too, as you can see by them rewriting the original story into oblivion. RIP Kyle Katarn.

 

[Spoony]

It's sad reading this, but, yeah, that's it. Everyone knows Kathleen Kennedy hates Luke, and what Star Wars was in general before Disney.

Looking back, the writing was on the wall when Disney immediately killed the expanded universe. They would've loved to have killed off the first 6 films if they could, too, as you can see by them rewriting the original story into oblivion. RIP Kyle Katarn.

I'm no fan of Disney SW but how are they rewriting the original story and killing the expanded Universe? I'm not really a fan so...I genuinely'd like to know.

 

[Yagami]

I'm no fan of Disney SW but how are they rewriting the original story and killing the expanded Universe? I'm not really a fan so...I genuinely'd like to know.

Well, they said as soon as they bought the franchise from Lucas that the EU was non-canon as they wanted their own stories.

As for the OG story, there's so many examples. The whole Obi-Wan Kenobi show basically tore the story apart. Kenobi failing to protect Luke, Kenobi meeting Leia, Kenobi and Vader facing off before episode 4, etc. Bringing Palpatine back in episode 9 when the entire story was supposed to be Anakin destroying the sith. Turns out his death was pointless.

Others have gone more in depth on all the changes and it's obvious they don't want the OG story to be canon. They want everything to be their own version, which is fine as it's their property now, but sucks for us fans who loved the original story.

 

[Van Piorsing]

Well, they said as soon as they bought the franchise from Lucas that the EU was non-canon as they wanted their own stories.

As for the OG story, there's so many examples. The whole Obi-Wan Kenobi show basically tore the story apart. Kenobi failing to protect Luke, Kenobi meeting Leia, Kenobi and Vader facing off before episode 4, etc. Bringing Palpatine back in episode 9 when the entire story was supposed to be Anakin destroying the sith. Turns out his death was pointless.

Others have gone more in depth on all the changes and it's obvious they don't want the OG story to be canon. They want everything to be their own version, which is fine as it's their property now, but sucks for us fans who loved the original story.

That's a pretty good recap.

Can't wait for Disney's own version of SW Christmas Special and how they can 'fix' that. Jabba and Porkins competing in a mukbang contest could be still more breathtaking than the Man DeLorean.

 

[Spoony]

Well, they said as soon as they bought the franchise from Lucas that the EU was non-canon as they wanted their own stories.

As for the OG story, there's so many examples. The whole Obi-Wan Kenobi show basically tore the story apart. Kenobi failing to protect Luke, Kenobi meeting Leia, Kenobi and Vader facing off before episode 4, etc. Bringing Palpatine back in episode 9 when the entire story was supposed to be Anakin destroying the sith. Turns out his death was pointless.

Others have gone more in depth on all the changes and it's obvious they don't want the OG story to be canon. They want everything to be their own version, which is fine as it's their property now, but sucks for us fans who loved the original story.

Ta for that.

 

[Ødegaard]

As long as they get a good writer i'm sure Daisy Ridley will be fine. I do have my doubts about them finding a good writer.

 

[Jotun]

As long as they get a good writer i'm sure Daisy Ridley will be fine. I do have my doubts about them finding a good writer.

Even with a good writer, the movie will have a hard time, considering the reception of sequel trilogy. I don't understand this decision from business or fan service perspective. Very risky and could possibly be a flop that buries the franchise in cinema limbo for a decade.

 

[Ødegaard]

Even with a good writer, the movie will have a hard time, considering the reception of sequel trilogy. I don't understand this decision from business or fan service perspective. Very risky and could possibly be a flop that buries the franchise in cinema limbo for a decade.

Well yeah, it is fecked anyway with the old fan base.
My comments are purely for my own enjoyment. Don't dislike her as an actor, just feel it needs better writing to make me like the character more and thus be able to enjoy a show with her at the center of it.

Stopped giving a crap about success of franchises. I just care about my own enjoyment now.

 

[Edgar Allan Pillow]

 

[Edgar Allan Pillow]

I'm surprised they mention Thrawn as Heir to the Empire. Just stole the phrase? Or will they actually use the book plot deleting the non Cannon stuff?

 

[Mr Pigeon]

Oh, boy....

The next movie is going to be a Rey Palpatine one. Daisy Ridley is back. I won't be watching but the reactions are going to be fun.

Rey is probably the least interesting, worst written character in the entire Star Wars universe and, yes, I am remembering that Jar Jar Binks was in the prequels.

 

[The Cat]

All in on that one.

Spoiler

That's Thrawn finally isn't it?

 

[RedSky]

Oh, boy....

The next movie is going to be a Rey Palpatine one. Daisy Ridley is back. I won't be watching but the reactions are going to be fun.

feck sake.

 

[Edgar Allan Pillow]

All in on that one.

Spoiler

That's Thrawn finally isn't it?

Yeah. Lars Mikkelson plays Thrawn.

 

[Edgar Allan Pillow]

Oh, boy....

The next movie is going to be a Rey Palpatine one. Daisy Ridley is back. I won't be watching but the reactions are going to be fun.

3 movies actually.

Directing the movies will be James Mangold, Dave Filoni and Sharmeen Obaid-Chinoy.

Mangold's film will return to the dawn of the Jedi.

Filoni's will be about the New Republic, and "will close out the interconnected stories told in 'The Mandalorian,' 'The Book of Boba Fett,' 'Ahsoka,' and other Disney+ series," the announcement said.

Obaid-Chinoy's movie will focus on the events after "The Rise of Skywalker," and feature Ridley back as Rey "as she builds a new Jedi Order."

Actually excited about the Filoni movie.

And Dawn of the Jedi seems to be it will be way earlier in timeline. Hopefully it has Darth Bane arc.

 

[Sky1981]

Come on. It could be a 1/10 steaming pile of dung but we're all be watching on day 1.

A new Jedi order, the dark fall etc? Could be set for a whole 9 movies.

Maybe... Now that we got her Mary Sue problem aside Rey can finally start to show her acting prowess.

Oh well.. who cares.. movies are cheap nowdays.. good or bad I've seen worse and still pays for the admission fee

 

[Yagami]

Ta for that.

I believe the original script for The Force Awakens was written by the guy who did Toy Story 3 and had Luke as a prominent figure until Lucas film executives stepped in and changed it because he was taking too much attention away from the new characters. Yeah, no shit! He's Luke Skywalker and your new characters are terrible.

Rey is probably the least interesting, worst written character in the entire Star Wars universe and, yes, I am remembering that Jar Jar Binks was in the prequels.

Remember the theories about Jar Jar being a sith? Might as well bring him back like everyone else and go that route. At least it'd be funny!

Come on. It could be a 1/10 steaming pile of dung but we're all be watching on day 1.

A new Jedi order, the dark fall etc? Could be set for a whole 9 movies.

Maybe... Now that we got her Mary Sue problem aside Rey can finally start to show her acting prowess.

Oh well.. who cares.. movies are cheap nowdays.. good or bad I've seen worse and still pays for the admission fee

I don't know about you but I haven't watched any Star Wars since episode 8 bar the Luke scenes in the TV shows. Never watched episode 9 and probably never will.

Since episode 8, the only new Star Wars content I've had any part of was the Jedi Fallen Order game, which I really enjoyed. Not just the gameplay but the story and characters in that were better than anything in the Disney movies.

I just think it's a shame we'll never get a proper sequel to episode 6 of Luke rebuilding the Jedi Order just because Disney hate Lucas' story.

 

[dinostar77]

As long as kathleen kennedy sticks to what she said last year that there is a wjole star wars universe to explore away from the skywalker saga and the death star(s), then im interested to see where they go.

The "old republic" cgi short videos that were created for KOTOR online game were fantastic and imho better than the recent triology. Some of the books were a great read as well: Darth Bane triology, Revan, Fatal Alliance, Decieved. So hopefully they can that inspiration from some of these novels. If not for High Republic era sruff they maybe for the Sith focused "Acolyte" series.

Personally i would love a series or a triology that covered Sith Lord Darth Bane or Dark Jedi Revan. The latter being the most famous jedi in SW universe not to appear on the big screen.

As Andor has shown, theres room in the SW universe for different types of heros and villians. Not all have to be jedi or sith. But if they are focused on Sith/Jedi, then use the Old Republic route and go all out with their battles.

 

[bucky]

 

[2 man midfield]

I’ve never read the thrawn books or any of the old EU, but I really wish they’d just adapted that to start with. Everyone seems to rate it highly, and they had the story right there laid out. We didn’t need sith coming back, that story was done.

Didn’t they shoehorn Thrawn into one of the cartoons in some other timeline? I guess that’s the end of that then

 

[dinostar77]

I’ve never read the thrawn books or any of the old EU, but I really wish they’d just adapted that to start with. Everyone seems to rate it highly, and they had the story right there laid out. We didn’t need sith coming back, that story was done.

Didn’t they shoehorn Thrawn into one of the cartoons in some other timeline? I guess that’s the end of that then

Thrawn is coming soon. To one of the shows.

 

[Bobski]

I’ve never read the thrawn books or any of the old EU, but I really wish they’d just adapted that to start with. Everyone seems to rate it highly, and they had the story right there laid out. We didn’t need sith coming back, that story was done.

Didn’t they shoehorn Thrawn into one of the cartoons in some other timeline? I guess that’s the end of that then

Yes, the most recent trilogy for all the controversy and toxicity are just not good. Truthfully I can't remember the name of the first, just refer to it as the safe tired rehash of A New Hope. The Last Jedi had 30 good mins stretched over near 3 hours and burned the original characters to get those 30. Rise of Skywalker is total piss. Somehow Papaltine returned, nothing more needs said.

Doing Zahn's Thrawn would have meant recasting Han, Luke and Leia, but also gives scope for a ton of interesting stories.

Rey coming back, hopefully they give Ridley more interesting stuff to deal with, may as well just take the better of Luke's extended universe stuff and flip it to her with a few tweeks.

The Force Awakens, that was it, bore-fest.

 

[2 man midfield]

Thrawn is coming soon. To one of the shows.

How does that tie in with that cartoon? I take it they just nabbed the character and nothing else, no story ideas?

 

[dinostar77]

How does that tie in with that cartoon? I take it they just nabbed the character and nothing else, no story ideas?

I have no idea buddy, i havent been watching the cartoons.

 

[2 man midfield]

I have no idea buddy, i havent been watching the cartoons.

Fair enough, me neither. As far as I’m concerned it ends after episode 6 and that’s it

 

[Zarlak]

It's sad reading this, but, yeah, that's it. Everyone knows Kathleen Kennedy hates Luke, and what Star Wars was in general before Disney.

Looking back, the writing was on the wall when Disney immediately killed the expanded universe. They would've loved to have killed off the first 6 films if they could, too, as you can see by them rewriting the original story into oblivion. RIP Kyle Katarn.

Killing the EU was a great decision. They've been bringing back parts of it so they obviously see value in it, but keeping a canon universe where any random person just wants to make the new character 100 times stronger than Vader is a dumb decision. You can't move a franchise forward with neckbeards on the internet saying 'actually Darth Renglow could take down star destroyers in his sleep with his grasp of the force, he could astral project him fighting Maul, Vader and Palpatine at the same time and is the only one to be in tune with both the light and dark in perfect balance as demonstrated when he blew up Tython and Korriban at the same time with his sheer willpower alone.' The EU had some great stories, and a whole lot of ridiculous. Nixing it and bringing back parts of it is a better decision, and you can still read and enjoy those stories.

 

[Yagami]

Killing the EU was a great decision. They've been bringing back parts of it so they obviously see value in it, but keeping a canon universe where any random person just wants to make the new character 100 times stronger than Vader is a dumb decision. You can't move a franchise forward with neckbeards on the internet saying 'actually Darth Renglow could take down star destroyers in his sleep with his grasp of the force, he could astral project him fighting Maul, Vader and Palpatine at the same time and is the only one to be in tune with both the light and dark in perfect balance as demonstrated when he blew up Tython and Korriban at the same time with his sheer willpower alone.' The EU had some great stories, and a whole lot of ridiculous. Nixing it and bringing back parts of it is a better decision, and you can still read and enjoy those stories.

Personally, I'm not a fan of the EU apart from a few things, but buying the franchise and immediately killing it was a bad sign. Especially when there was popular stuff that would've made for great content like Kyle Katarn's story and Mara Jade.

They always saw value in it but hated it because it was pre-Disney. Just like they hate the first 6 films, but they couldn't kill them like the EU. What everything pre-Disney is to them is a safety net. When their own stuff fails, they bring something back. They'd rather that stuff be forgotten about, but, they keep needing to bring it back to keep the remaining goodwill they have left in tact.

If all of their own stuff had took off, you'd barely see anything from the Lucas era. However, because everything they've done has come nowhere the popularity of the Lucas stuff apart from Grogu, they begrudgingly bring stuff back. They don't bring the stuff back to honour the story or make entertaining content, though. They bring it back to to put out the fires their stuff causes and then to further their idea of what Star Wars should be.

Disney have had Star Wars for just over a decade, with their first piece of content being less than a decade old, and the apathy towards the franchise is something none of us would've predicted. It's a remarkable achievement to do what they've done to the fanbase in under a decade after everyone was seemingly on the same page after TFA.

 

[Herman Toothrot]

Urgh. More Rebels and Clone Wars characters who somehow survived the Empire but didn't bother getting involved in the main story. It makes no sense and totally undermines Luke as 'A New Hope'. Other than Andor, I hate all of this Dave Filoni/Jon Faveru stuff, especially the relentless casting of comedians and famous people. It's all the worst excesses of Marvel and increasingly feels like it's made in a warehouse and directed by Reddit comments.

Just make good Star Wars films! They lost their balls after The Last Jedi and it's been awful ever since. I thought they did a great job with Rey, especially in The Last Jedi where they make her a nobody, but retrofitting her as "a Palpatine" was the single stupidest thing a franchise has ever done and it'll be astonishing if they can fix her character now.

 

[Zarlak]

Personally, I'm not a fan of the EU apart from a few things, but buying the franchise and immediately killing it was a bad sign. Especially when there was popular stuff that would've made for great content like Kyle Katarn's story and Mara Jade.

They always saw value in it but hated it because it was pre-Disney. Just like they hate the first 6 films, but they couldn't kill them like the EU. What everything pre-Disney is to them is a safety net. When their own stuff fails, they bring something back. They'd rather that stuff be forgotten about, but, they keep needing to bring it back to keep the remaining goodwill they have left in tact.

If all of their own stuff had took off, you'd barely see anything from the Lucas era. However, because everything they've done has come nowhere the popularity of the Lucas stuff apart from Grogu, they begrudgingly bring stuff back. They don't bring the stuff back to honour the story or make entertaining content, though. They bring it back to to put out the fires their stuff causes and then to further their idea of what Star Wars should be.

Disney have had Star Wars for just over a decade, with their first piece of content being less than a decade old, and the apathy towards the franchise is something none of us would've predicted. It's a remarkable achievement to do what they've done to the fanbase in under a decade after everyone was seemingly on the same page after TFA.

I honestly don't think it was. I think it's the only thing that made sense.There was too much shit out there in it that you'd have to comb through, far easier to just kill it and then bring back the good bits than keep all the dross.

 

[Chairman Steve]

The Star Wars universe is too small for its own good. It’s boxed itself in so now every iteration has to have Jedi, Rebels, Empire in it. Any deviation from those three and nobody gives a shit.

At least Star Trek got it right and they’re not totally revolving everything around Kirk, Spock, Bones, Romulans, Khan etc… they can throw in Picard, Borg, Sisko, Janeway, Dominion in there.

 

[jackal&hyde]

Yesterday I gave Andor a try and it's one of my favorite sci fi shows ever. First 3 episodes are a character prologue while keeping you immersed in the Universe. I am literally shocked at the level of quality writing that is coming from the same studio that made Rey.

Even if you don't care about Star Wars, I would highly recommend this show to anyone that wants a well written, dark, spy, character driven story.

 

[balaks]

The Star Wars universe is too small for its own good. It’s boxed itself in so now every iteration has to have Jedi, Rebels, Empire in it. Any deviation from those three and nobody gives a shit.

At least Star Trek got it right and they’re not totally revolving everything around Kirk, Spock, Bones, Romulans, Khan etc… they can throw in Picard, Borg, Sisko, Janeway, Dominion in there.

Eh?

 

[berbatrick]

Yesterday I gave Andor a try and it's one of my favorite sci fi shows ever. First 3 episodes are a character prologue while keeping you immersed in the Universe. I am literally shocked at the level of quality writing that is coming from the same studio that made Rey.

Even if you don't care about Star Wars, I would highly recommend this show to anyone that wants a well written, dark, spy, character driven story.

and it just gets better and better - if you're 3 eps in, the best is yet to come

 

[dinostar77]

Yesterday I gave Andor a try and it's one of my favorite sci fi shows ever. First 3 episodes are a character prologue while keeping you immersed in the Universe. I am literally shocked at the level of quality writing that is coming from the same studio that made Rey.

Even if you don't care about Star Wars, I would highly recommend this show to anyone that wants a well written, dark, spy, character driven story.

I struggled with it and fell asleep a fee times.

 

[Salt Bailly]

Yesterday I gave Andor a try and it's one of my favorite sci fi shows ever. First 3 episodes are a character prologue while keeping you immersed in the Universe. I am literally shocked at the level of quality writing that is coming from the same studio that made Rey.

Even if you don't care about Star Wars, I would highly recommend this show to anyone that wants a well written, dark, spy, character driven story.

It's on my list.