Yeah he's actually pretty good at everything. If we're looking for an actual midfielder, he should be top of the list.
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Quality player.
Would love to have this guy at United but ehy do we never get these type of players at source ourselves, and end up forking our extortionate fees to other Premier League clubs?!
We were there... Front runner untill we pulled out.
he'd be brilliant alongside Casemiro
Find his replacement were he to leave Brighton and get him instead! Save us 50m by learning how to make transfers from South America to get direct access to their talent pool.
The price Brighton will want for any of Caicedo, McAlister or Mitoma combined with them playing better as a sum of their whole parts, it's bound to be that at least one of these will end up being the next Cucerella
The type of player we need as he can cover Casemiro's position if he's out or play alongside him, unfortunately I think the price tag will be too high they'll be wanting £80m+ and the priority for us has to be a striker that will probably cost us at least £80m as well
I was convinced by him last season when he put in one of the most dominant displays by a midfielder, at Old Trafford, that I could remember in a long time. I was hoping we'd sign him ever since and thought we were going to in the summer, but unfortunately it didn't happen. He's still got bits of his game to iron out but I think he's sensational. I'd be genuinely worried if another top team in England bought him. Though it looks like he fancies Real Madrid. Honestly I prefer him to Bellingham.
Fantastic..."nah, he's too cheap. We'll wait until he makes a name for himself at a rival PL club, then fork out shitloads to get him".
We might as well just buy these players on the cheap even if we're not 100% sure of them. If they work out, great, if they don't just flog them on. Might make a loss on a lot of them but worth the investment if it means unearthing a Caceido or Mitoma.
Having said that, would Caceido have developed at United the same way as he has at Brighton, given how dysfunctional we were for a few seasons?!
No it was more complicated than that. We were genuinely in for him but it was impossible to determine who actually represented him and who to make a deal with.
He came on the recommendation of a one, Antonio Valencia who was Caceido's idol/sporting hero.
It just seems like Utd didn't try hard enough to sign him. Complicated agent setup? Nah pass.
Brighton with their connections were able to do it. You would think a huge club like utd could have established connections or done something to resolve the issue but the feckers were too lazy to do it.
Thats my take. Could be trash but I cant understand why we passed on this signing.
Brighton with their connections were able to do it. You would think a huge club like utd could have established connections or done something to resolve the issue but the feckers were too lazy to do it.
Thats my take. Could be trash but I cant understand why we passed on this signing.
We just need to be in for him and let Antonio Valencia convince him to join us over Real Madrid or any other clubs. If he gives us good seasons to draw their interest then fair enough. That would mean we would have a good player for 4-5 years.
He will go to the highest bidder.
It always does seem to be more complicated with us, doesn't it?! Every transfer seems to be an epic saga!
No, not particularly, though there have been some high profile ones which are mainly due to how big a club we are. I'm sure there are dozens of transfers that have the same issues but just don't get reported on.
It does beg the question why we don't have a strong network of intermediaries in Latin America that might have been able to support the club in this case (which seemed to be the case for Brighton), but we honestly don't know enough about the inner workings of the club, how their networks are structured, where the priorities are, to have an honest judgment on this.
I'd say the fact that the club were approached by several people claiming to be representing him, for which basic due diligence was not able to clarify what was true from what wasn't, says more about the state of football in Latin America than it does about our club. But that's a story that doesn't sell as much as shitting on Manchester United.
Real Madrid? When did this come about?
Could we realistically get him, Kane, and replacements for Maguire and De Gea in one summer? Would be close to £300million if we did.
We'd sell:
Maguire
Henderson
McTominay
Assuming Maguire goes for 30 and the other two for 40m, that's 110mil in.
If we get Timber as Maguires replacement it's almost like for like in terms of transfer fee I think.
If we replace DDG we obv get no fee but save an absolute boatload in wages which I'm sure counts somewhere in budgeting.
The replacement for Maguire wouldn't need to be another 80m defender. At this stage, we'd just need a competent back-up central defender for Varane and Martinez (assuming we also keep Lindelof as back-up).
If getting Kane and Caceido meant keeping David for an extra season or two, I'd be happy enough to make that compromise.
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Should have been snapped up earlier. Every man and his dog after him now. He could give Casemiro that extra protection but also be one half of a future double pivot and look for a long term maestro to play with him… maybe even a pairing of him and Lavia or someone of that ilk. Definitely need more legs in there for the long term.
That would be Mitoma imo.
He is a nice player but in his position, for the money they would want, you need to be a consistent match winner at a top side - Salah, Mane, Mahrez, Sterling (at city), Rashford, Son, Vinicius - that’s what €100 million should get you.
He is more like Antony, or Fati or Coman or Dembele type player. Incredible technique and you can appreciate him on many levels - he is not gonna take the lead and win games for you on his own consistently.
I’d put Mac Allister in that category. No chance he’s a £70m midfielder. Solid but not worth that much.
Fuk it. I would buy Acuna…old and cheap, nasty Martinez type who will scrap and battle…won’t want to start every game ..use him as cover at LB to free up Shaw at CB. Shaw is better than most left sided CBs on and off the ball. Keep Lindelof as back up for Varane.
fecking annoying that we were close to signing him from South America.
Wasn’t there reports that he was a United fan when we were link with him before Brighton.
Could help if we are to go in for him, maybe
Could help if we are to go in for him, maybe
I think we can sign him up as Casemiro's eventual successor. For next 2-3 years, he can play a squad role to play cup games, easier league games and to cover midfield injuries. At 60-70 million pounds, he can be a box-to-box old school midfielder for at least 5-8 years.
And while we're at it, sign up Brighton's scouting team as well.
And while we're at it, sign up Brighton's scouting team as well.
Even at Brighton it took him a while to get integrated in the first team. No way he’d have come to United and got the opportunity from an under fire manager and an impatient fan base
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So you think that McTominay and Henderson are 40million pound players but they are not good enough for us?
Yeah but what’s in it for him?Sean Longstaff was 50m
. These are reasonable ish prices. I'd say 25 each would be enough. Though if we were buying them. Theyd be 50mHe was also loaned to Club in Belgium as well , I don't think he would have developed well at United at all .
When McTominay was linked to Newcastle it was reported 40m I believe.
And Henderson just signed a new deal, at his age and potential yes I think he can go for that too.
Yeah but no one paid itSean Longstaff was 50m
Those were the days when a club actually just gave a ludicrous figure for their player and it frightened off clubs.....oh for those days
When I read posts like this I think I am in a parallel universe where the average national wage is about 5mil pounds a year.
This is it exactly.
At Brighton, Potter and Ashworth (at the time) mapped out a clear route for him for development and first team football, he had a couple of appearances before he went off to our feeder club, USG, in Belgium. We knew that Bissouma was unlikely to sign a new contract and he was signed for succession.
At United there is no clear route offered and when managers change, styles of play change completely as well, so there are no guarantees, whereas when we changed from Potter to De Zerbi, the style was tweaked rather than changed dramatically.
It's difficult for big clubs who expect to win every match to take a risk like Caicedo and play him regularly, there's no room for feck ups. But the flipside is, you guys have much much more money and can afford to buy ready made pl players.
I think if Pellistri and Amad had joined Brighton (they joined United 6 months before Caicedo joined Brighton and are the same age) both would be regular and established pl players by now.
So he wanted to leave in Jan and was dropped for a few games, but then re signed. Surely it was a Ronaldo like situation and he's still got heart set on an exit. We should move on this quickly and 80m is doable.
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