If we can’t get 9 points from the remaining games then we really don’t deserve top 4, so it really is on us to not mess it up. We should not be messing it up from this position.
Race for top 4 | Finito.
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Nah you're right, give the lad a 10 year contract. That's exactly the kind of failure we reward around these parts.Jesus
Liverpool are doing what they need to do, nothing special at all but grinding out the wins.
Hope we can get a win tomorrow night just to calm things a bit.
Hope we can get a win tomorrow night just to calm things a bit.
Not really. We want to win the league and champions league. To do so you need finances, and our finances depend on playing CL football.
We're also more likely to finish top 4 than win the FA cup let's be honest, so if we throw away top 4 from this position we won't be able to carry much confidence going into the final.
Mourinho and LVG won trophies and their time here is viewed as a dismal failure and a complete waste of years. Arteta won the FA cup and was a laughing stock for the following 2 years, Wenger was hounded out of Arsenal despite winning the FA cup a lot, Rodgers is viewed as a laughing stock despite winning domestic trophy, Redknapp, Laudrup, Dalglish, Martinez, Ramos all won domestic trophies and no one really gives a shit.
I don't dispute that, but it wouldn't be a blow to the managers credentials like the poster said. It would suck ass big time yeh, but I wouldn't be calling for the manager's head just yet.
People acting like Villa - who've got Europe to play for and need to win their remaining games to ensure this- are just going to roll up and have their bellies tickled against the scouse...
Because I expected them to win all of their remaining fixtures 3 or 4 games ago. Newcastle and Man United have they more difficult fixtures, 4th at best I'd reckon for Man United with team having played 50 plus games and wants the end of the season swiftly.
Villa lost and didn't score against Wolves today, lets be honest they won't be getting a result in Anfield.
Again, Jesus
your misery on here the last few weeks has been something else. So tell me this, if we miss top 4 do you want him sacked?I’d much rather beat city in the FA cup final than celebrate a 4th spot. The UEFA should start valuing the cup competitions to their worth, it is a big prize and it is the oldest football competition in the world. As long as the cup winner isn’t guaranteed a CL group stage spot it will not be valued the way it should.
A win tomorrow would go a huge way to sealing it.
Put the appalling away record to bed a bit, and lead us into a set of home games we should see out.
Yep, the Kop will sing ”You’ll never walk alone,” , Klopp will passively-aggressively play off the 4th official, Alisson will score another last-minute winner, and Liverpool will win all their remaining games.
But so what? We only need 9 points.
But so what? We only need 9 points.
You see. We need more posts like this in this thread. It certainly would blow some of the major strides we've made out.
And would give a bit more credence to those halfwits saying we hadn't improved if you look at positions/points etc. As those comments were without any context, comparing like for like etc.
Roll on a win tomorrow.
This place will be in absolute hysterics tomorrow if we don’t win.
Roll on Klopp doing that manic triple fist pump to get their stand whooping...as he leads them to 5th.
Essentially swapping position with Arsenal.
To be honest, I think Leicester next Monday are our biggest hopes of Liverpool dropping points. They're shit but they're at home and they'll need a big performance for the battle they're in, the crowd will be up for it.
Don't see Liverpool dropping points at Anfield.
I think we all sense that we're not going to win tomorrow
A week ago the pessimists said that Liverpool would be 1 point behind us when we go into the West Ham game, and what do you know...
Assuming Pool win their last 3 games (71pts)…. United need 9 points (72pts) from their last 5 to guarantee top 4
Easy peasy, it’s in the bag
Easy peasy, it’s in the bag
I'm just saying it in terms of "we can lose 2 games and still qualify" to show the breathing room we have. Of course we should win them all, but it's just a point of saying, yeah it might get tight but I'd be shocked if we totally miss out.
Nah the pessimists were saying we’d be behind Liverpool by the time we kicked off at West Ham because Aston Villa are the greatest team in history and there’s no way we’d beat them.I think we all sense that we're not going to win tomorrow
A week ago the pessimists said that Liverpool would be 1 point behind us when we go into the West Ham game, and what do you know...
The plus side to playing Europa League again next season is that we won’t get KO’ed from Europe by Sevilla for once
If we get top 4, Sevilla will win the EL. It is written.
As long as we can stay above them in the table, we'll be ok.I think we all sense that we're not going to win tomorrow
A week ago the pessimists said that Liverpool would be 1 point behind us when we go into the West Ham game, and what do you know...
To go behind, even wtih games in hand, you wouldn't fancy some of our boys mentality!
Liverpool will win their games, that's pretty much a given.
With that in mind, we don't even need to have catastrophic form to miss out. 2-2-1 does it. Say, lose at West Ham, draw at Bournemouth and against Chelsea. Completely plausible, no huge shocks there.
Is anyone else worried about the lack of goals from ourselves? Will it cost us top 4 in the end?
I had this horrible feeling that Liverpool would pip us to it and they will become even more insufferable!
I had this horrible feeling that Liverpool would pip us to it and they will become even more insufferable!
We will not win all our games. Liverpool will. We need to win 3. Newcastle will be 3rd.
If we go 2-2-1 Liverpool come 4th. We need 3 wins. We aren't playing well at the moment and don't with the pressure on. Tomorrow is such a big match.
There's no need to get stressed after every Liverpool result - we know they will win their remaining games (and knew that before they played Spurs) so reacting to each win is a waste of energy.
It's also not worth getting stressed when we drop points against West Ham tomorrow; the time to panic is if we drop points against Bournemouth, Wolves or Fulham - those are our best chances at the required 9 points.
Tonight's result doesn't change anything.
It's also not worth getting stressed when we drop points against West Ham tomorrow; the time to panic is if we drop points against Bournemouth, Wolves or Fulham - those are our best chances at the required 9 points.
Tonight's result doesn't change anything.
I think they'll pip us. I said that when we were miles ahead.
8 points wouldn't be enough in that scenario. Which is why I was baffled that a poster tried telling me that losing to Brighton was no different to a draw.
Yeah, I'm the problem. Maybe my misery has something to do with us playing shit and dropping points every time we play away? There might just be a correlation there you know.Again, Jesus
No, but it's 2/3 strikes against him in my opinion. Maybe that's the same for others or maybe some will want him gone if that happens, but regardless, if we do miss out we're going into next season on a downer and potential new owners so it might not matter what any of us want.
There seems to be a funny smell around here. Smells a bit like…..poo? Might get a bit stronger if united drop some more points tomorrow? Dunno.
In all fairness, stop with all the incontinence. Even you can’t mess it up from here. We‘ve simply run out of games to make the difference up. If we’d started grinding these results out a month earlier then it’d be different.
In all fairness, stop with all the incontinence. Even you can’t mess it up from here. We‘ve simply run out of games to make the difference up. If we’d started grinding these results out a month earlier then it’d be different.
It feels very similar to the season we chased Leicester down and nabbed it on final day. Leicester folded that year and let us in.
I'd like to think this team has more mental strength than that to allow Liverpool in but our recent results and general away form are worrying. The top 4 conversation should've really been put to bed by now given where we were.
This thread told me it was impossible.
That's what I'm saying, that getting 8 points out of 15 isn't catastrophic form (as sullydn accused people of catastrophising) but it does mean missing out on top 4.
Sorry. Misread. Agree.
Leicester wont lose to Liverpool next week, the need something from the game to stay up.
I think we'll get something against West Ham tomorrow night as Moyes will want to rest players ahead of AZ Alkmaar on Thursday, after that we should really be able to win all our remaining games.
8 points out of 15 for a team like United who spent £230m in the summer is pretty fecking shite to be honest
Well if the players' minds aren't focused now, they'll never be.
Time to show a pair of f**king balls. We've got West Ham away and Wolves home before Liverpool play again. We can be 7 points ahead of them or 1/2 points ahead of them, it's up to the players to decide which.
Time to show a pair of f**king balls. We've got West Ham away and Wolves home before Liverpool play again. We can be 7 points ahead of them or 1/2 points ahead of them, it's up to the players to decide which.
West Ham are still in a relegation dogfight, I doubt they're resting anyone.