The look on the guy's face when the woman says "Good on her!" for inheriting white skin
That is brilliant.White civil rights activist pretending to be black...
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
That is brilliant.What about Piyush Jindal??? He´s the governor of Louisiana, a right wing Republikan, has an A rating from the NRA, has become a Christian, and goes by the good ol' boy name, "Bobby" cause he was so obsessed by the character from the Brady Bunch. This guy thinks he´s whiter than an Englishman´s ass.
I'd change my name to Bobby too if my birth name sounded like a flushing toilet.
Did anyone else expect her to be really black like Robert Downey Jr. in Tropic Thunder?
That's Rahul Dravid, surely?What about Piyush Jindal??? He´s the governor of Louisiana, a right wing Republikan, has an A rating from the NRA, has become a Christian, and goes by the good ol' boy name, "Bobby" cause he was so obsessed by the character from the Brady Bunch. This guy thinks he´s whiter than an Englishman´s ass.
On a serious note - the difference here is he is a minority selling his soul to fit in with a white Christian majority (I'm assuming Louisiana has a larger white population than black) ie changing yourself to win acceptance. I think it's different from Rozele where she actually has some sort of psychological whatever where she can't accept that she's white.
Yes. My first thought looking through the link was a slightly confused "she looks white"
Empathy is healthy but Rachel Dolezal claimed someone else’s pain for herself
http://www.theguardian.com/commenti...olezal-claimed-someone-elses-pain-for-herself
Interesting read, is she like Binjamin Wilkomirski or that woman who pretended to be a 9-11 survivor?
http://www.theguardian.com/commenti...olezal-claimed-someone-elses-pain-for-herself
Interesting read, is she like Binjamin Wilkomirski or that woman who pretended to be a 9-11 survivor?
she's just a friggin' nutter.
Oh god, why does this keep happening
Best bit in that article is the existence of a "Pretendian List"
This is how C. Thomas Howell got into Harvard.
There are a number of scholarships and funding opportunities and even jobs which are only open to scholars of colour in the US. This kind of fraud is not only about people pretending to be something or someone that they are not. It actively hurts the communities of scholars that they are trying to represent.
It’s interesting that these same people who deliberately choose to live as a POC would argue until they’re blue in the face that’s it’s an invaluable privilege to have the opportunity live as someone who is not a POC.
Is this any different to people who are transgender? There’s obviously a feeling of identity to another group which isn’t inherent or native to the individual. But in the case of transgender it’s encouraged to transition. In the case of transracials it’s consider abnormal. Where is the line drawn?
Edit: there’s also a story of the fella in the Netherlands who claimed he was trans-age too.
Edit: there’s also a story of the fella in the Netherlands who claimed he was trans-age too.
Yes, transgender people aren't transitioning to get ahead in life.
People aren’t trans-racialing only to get ahead in life though. Look at the dude who wants to be Korean. He’s broke.
Is this an exclusive American thing were white people try to minoritize themselves? Like the ones that pretend they're Irish because a distant ancestor once lived there.
I thought you were referring to the academics
Your race is passed down from your parents and family while your gender is not. Your race is far more tied to your family than your gender so I'd say they are quite different.
The sex you are born is just as much down to genetics as your race.
How can that even be possible?
A person can somewhat determine what race their child will be while you can't do that with biological sex.
The chromosomes you're born with dictate your sex. The genes you're born with dictate your race. It's all down to your genetic make-up. Which comes from your parents. The point is that you don't choose your race, in the same way you don't choose your sex. So if it's ok to be uncomfortable with your biological sex, why can't you be uncomfortable with the race you were also assigned at birth?
Those chromosomes are more or less dictated randomly. Race far less so. If two black people have sex they will produce a black baby and if one of them has sex with another black person they will produce another black baby. Try to do the same thing with gender and those people most-likely won't have babies of a single gender.
They could be lighter or darker but they are never going to have a baby with an ethnicity that isn't part of their DNA.
You're over-complicating it. I was only arguing that your race is defined at birth, as is your sex. Both are down to your biology and outside your personal control.
No.
The people who masquerade as another race do it either out of misunderstanding/lack of accurate information about their ancestry or an effort to gain benefit that they do not deserve.
That's a massive difference when compared to transgenders.
One is biological, the other is cultural it would seem.
No one can choose their gender or race. So I really don’t get your point here. Are you saying because people can’t choose their gender changing it should be encouraged? You can make the same exact argument for race, or ethnicity.
No one has ever killed themselves because they couldn't be Native American.
What’s the difference? Let’s assume the people that are trans-racialing identify with a different race or culture are not doing it from a place of misunderstanding.
That’s not the question I’m asking though. In your understanding, if people started killing themselves because they’re unable to identify with another race, that would legitimise it? That’s an incredibly odd way to look at it.
There is clear history of those people doing it for a benefit; either sympathy, credibility, scholarships etc.
There is no comparable motive for being transgender.
That's just a flippant remark to highlight the stupidity of your post.
Fecking Emiel Ratelband
If there was a long documented record of that happening, as well as science backing up the distinctions, then yeah I'm sure people would start to consider why it is happening and if there were something we, as a society, could do to help. Not you though I presume - just the people with some empathy.