Will it be similar to us and SAF or is that wishful thinking?
How will City fare when Pep leaves?
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Who should replace him and why is it taking so long to make a decision?
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They were winning leagues before he came.
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Wishful thinking.
What killed us was the sheer lack of planning. That continued for a decade pretty much.
What killed us was the sheer lack of planning. That continued for a decade pretty much.
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Wishful thinking.
They have a very good structure at that club. I'm sure they'll have a plan A, B and C in place when Pep leaves.
They have a very good structure at that club. I'm sure they'll have a plan A, B and C in place when Pep leaves.
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We can just look at what they were doing pre-Pep really. Their might be some additional disruption, they might appoint the wrong manager, but in the longer run they'll keep competing and winning.
It'll be trickier again if Pep and the likes of Begiristain were to leave mind, as at that point they'd be opening themselves up to greater risk of disruption and mismanagement.
It'll be trickier again if Pep and the likes of Begiristain were to leave mind, as at that point they'd be opening themselves up to greater risk of disruption and mismanagement.
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Yes. By the time he leaves there will be 2 or 3 other super teams. He could easily stay there for another 5 to 10 years.Will it be similar to us and SAF or is that wishful thinking?
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They'll be like they were before him. Very good. Potential league challengers most years.
It's not just the cheating with money. They also have a world class structure around the club.
It's not just the cheating with money. They also have a world class structure around the club.
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They were also a complete meme club in Europe and nowhere near as dominant.They were winning leagues before he came.
They will definitely decline once Pep leaves. Issue is, he might not leave for a good while.
Don’t think he has that longevity in him, I can see him leaving when his current contract expires in 2025.Yes. By the time he leaves there will be 2 or 3 other super teams. He could easily stay there for another 5 to 10 years.
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Sadly they have a proper structure in place that will most likely keep them successful to various degrees.
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They won't drop as far as we did as we are ineptly run, and depends on who they hire. Regardless they won't be this dominant, but the hire depends on top 4 battlers vs title challengers in a given year. I bet they'd change managers frequently and be something like Abramovich Chelsea.
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This guy gets it.We can just look at what they were doing pre-Pep really. Their might be some additional disruption, they might appoint the wrong manager, but in the longer run they'll keep competing and winning.
It'll be trickier again if Pep and the likes of Begiristain were to leave mind, as at that point they'd be opening themselves up to greater risk of disruption and mismanagement.
There's a really good backroom structure in place at City and it's firing on all cylinders.
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I mean they were also a meme club in Europe at times under Pep. Losing to Monaco and Lyon (while actually starting an ultra defensive team against the mighty Lyon). It takes time if you are not an established European/CL club. This is his 7th season at City and only now he is likely going to win it.They were also a complete meme club in Europe and nowhere near as dominant.
They will definitely decline once Pep leaves. Issue is, he might not leave for a good while.
After him they will probably not win 5 leagues in 7 years, but still 1 league title every 2-3 years.
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To go where? He has it too cosy here. Great infrastructure, is well paid, and realistically very little in the way of mental fatigue (The reason he left Barca).Don’t think he has that longevity in him, I can see him leaving when his current contract expires in 2025.
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Those were bad results, but they did even worse before that. They got grouped in 2 successive seasons and finished last(with no wins) in the 2012-2013 group stages. Whimpered out vs Tata's Barcelona(who weren't that great) the following season and then got demolished by MSN Barcelona(scoreline severely flattered them).I mean they were also a meme club in Europe at times under Pep. Losing to Monaco and Lyon (while actually starting an ultra defensive team against the mighty Lyon). It takes time if you are not an established European/CL club. This is his 7th season at City and only now he is likely going to win it.
After him they will probably not win 5 leagues in 7 years, but still 1 league title every 2-3 years.
They did make the semi-finals under Pellegrini ironically, but they were one of the worst sides ever to make the semi-finals.
They were terrible in Europe before Pep came. They never ever looked like one of the best sides in the competition.
Perhaps you’re right - I’m just hoping this nightmare will end soon.To go where? He has it too cosy here. Great infrastructure, is well paid, and realistically very little in the way of mental fatigue (The reason he left Barca).
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As we saw with Barca and Bayern he sets his teams up in good stead to keep dominating long after he leaves, unfortuently.
And that's assuming he does leave, I fear if he wasn't in it for the long haul he'd have left by now.
And that's assuming he does leave, I fear if he wasn't in it for the long haul he'd have left by now.
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Eh, Bayern and Barcelona did immediately decline without him and it took them a while to get back on that level with Pep.As we saw with Barca and Bayern he sets his teams up in good stead to keep dominating long after he leaves, unfortuently.
And that's assuming he does leave, I fear if he wasn't in it for the long haul he'd have left by now.
Barcelona were a bit fortunate that Suarez was a lunatic and Liverpool had to sell him so MSN was formed.
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Barca the season after Pep left got more points than any season with him and were pretty much dominating (domestically) until the end of the decade. Yes they hit the jackpot with MSN but the principles and intensity he brought to the club took years to erode and even then it was more down to mismanagement.Eh, Bayern and Barcelona did immediately decline without him and it took them a while to get back on that level with Pep.
Barcelona were a bit fortunate that Suarez was a lunatic and Liverpool had to sell him so MSN was formed.
Bayern have won every season since, people may say it's Bayern in the Bundesliga but pre Pep they never won more than 3 in a row and even that they only did twice.
I think even if City cock up his replacement it won't matter too much as the team would just be so well drilled, like us managing to compete with (in my opinion) Fergie's best ever team with Avram Grant incharge.
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They won't be as dominate, but still set up very well with the foundations for long term success. I think things will be more competitive though, which is something at least.
I expect Pep to build a dynasty there and last for 10-15 years or even more. No reason for him to leave.
They will fare better than us post Ferguson in case he left, though, because they spend their money better and more wisely.
No matter how much you look into it, they are a better and more well run club than us at the point
They will fare better than us post Ferguson in case he left, though, because they spend their money better and more wisely.
No matter how much you look into it, they are a better and more well run club than us at the point
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Depends who they get after, I can see them getting someone like De Zerbi and they just carry on being annoyingly good
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The better question is, why would Pep leave?
He could easily stay another 10+ years and win at least that many more trophies.
He could easily stay another 10+ years and win at least that many more trophies.
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The question should be, is he good enough to play by the rules and still win?
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A completely irrelevant question don't you think?The question should be, is he good enough to play by the rules and still win?
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I don't think it will be like Sir Alex leaving because they're very well run. The squad is bound to be in good health, unfortunately.
It will be nigh on impossible to be as good as Pep, though. We can hope that the pressure of that gets to the new manager. And for once that they make a shit decision and get the wrong man.
It will be nigh on impossible to be as good as Pep, though. We can hope that the pressure of that gets to the new manager. And for once that they make a shit decision and get the wrong man.
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Ffs another city thread? More than half of the threads on the main page are city related.
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Also, there should be a rule on this forum to not write city with a capital C.
It can't be similar to Fergie because Fergie was closer to the CEO of an organisation with a team of coaches under him. He ran the footballing side of the club in a very old fashioned way. Fergie also never had a specific coaching ideology that he ingrained in the whole club. Pep is the conductor of an extremely well oiled machine with very well defined blueprints for how his club should play from top to bottom. Fergie was arguably the greatest manager that ever lived with a set of skills that could easily be transferable to other fields like a Steve Jobs. Pep is the greatest head coach of the modern era.
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We'll still be in the mix and win titles, but the level of what Pep is doing will be gone, we'll return to winning one of every 3 or 4 or whatever it was under Pelligrini and Mancini.
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They will be fine because most likely they have already started planning his successor, they might not be as dominant as they are under Pep but I don’t really see much of a drop off to what they are like now.
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They will obviously do very well still. Probably more in line with how they did before Pep, though. Maybe slightly better, and better than what they used to do in the Champions League.
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Pellegrini and Mamcini had one league title each and Mancini won his by the skin of his teeth. Pep is closing in on 5 in 6 years. There is every reason to believe that City will not be anything like as dominant as they are now when Pep leaves.They were winning leagues before he came.
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They will go back to what they were pre Pep i.e. more inconsistent.
Pep is just a well oiled machine. Give him funds and freedom, and he delivers. They will go back down a level or two, depending on their managers and recruitment.
Pep is just a well oiled machine. Give him funds and freedom, and he delivers. They will go back down a level or two, depending on their managers and recruitment.
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He’s never going to leave, there is no better club for him, and he’s obsessed with football so he’s not just going to suddenly retire.
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They’ll be fine, we fecked it up by leaving everything to Fergie then having no idea what to do when he suddenly left. Then we gave Woodward free reign despite compounding failures. They already have a top football structure and would never hire woodward.
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Sadly, City has an established model which is working. Barring any bans for FFP, they will continue to win trophies here and there. However, I don't think they will be this ruthless and unbeatable. Might win a league every other year.