Dominos
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I've been panicking for months and even I think this is done.Only need a single point. Are people still going to be crying and panicking?
I think we'll beat Chelsea on Thursday.
I've been panicking for months and even I think this is done.Only need a single point. Are people still going to be crying and panicking?
To be absolutely precise: up until that point if the Champions League winner didn't qualify for next year's competition via their league finish, it was left up to the domestic league to decide which team they want to nominate. For example, Real Madrid finished 5th in La Liga in 2000 but won the Champions League and La Liga fecked fourth placed Real Zaragoza without a moment's hesitation.No, they literally made that rule up when Liverpool won the 2005 CL but didn't even manage to finish top 4 in their own league. Would have been embarrassing for them not to have the holders in it the following season.
Yes, you're a debbie downer.Maybe I'm a debbie downer , but finishing fourth and celebrating just feels wrong to me.
It was always highly unlikely, but what do you expect on RedCafe. Everyone is a doom-monger.Told you guys for weeks that Liverpool wouldn't get 4th, too far behind.
We lost 1 game at home in the league this season. And it's opening game. We don't look like crumbling at home if we're talking about getting 1 pointObviously we should do, especially as both games are at home, where we’ve been very good. But say we lose against Chelsea - something well within the bounds of possibility - I would be extremely nervous about the Fulham game. We’ve got a team of mental midgets, who crumble under the slightest pressure.
Unnecessary context, I feel.To be absolutely precise: up until that point if the Champions League winner didn't qualify for next year's competition via their league finish, it was left up to the domestic league to decide which team they want to nominate. For example, Real Madrid finished 5th in La Liga in 2000 but won the Champions League and La Liga fecked fourth placed Real Zaragoza without a moment's hesitation.
In 2005, the Premier League didn't want to screw over Everton so Liverpool would have been out but for a massive campaign that saw UEFA relent and allow Liverpool to start in the first qualifying round. Technically they weren't counted as an English club that season, hence getting drawn in the same group as Chelsea. At the same time, UEFA clarified the rule: the CL winner always qualifies for the competition but if they come from an association that already has 4 CL places, that association won't get a 5th slot even if the CL winner doesn't finish in the top 4. Thus if Spurs had finished fourth in 2006 but Arsenal won the CL (neither happened obviously but bear with me), Spurs would have been fecked.
This got changed a few years ago and now the top leagues can have a maximum of five participants. Now the only way the 4th placed team in the Premier League can miss out is if both the Champions League and the Europa League is won by a Premier League club that finishes outside the top 4. Which theoretically could have happened, for example, in 16/17 where Arsenal were really close to a CL win while we won the Europa League. And by really close I mean they shipped ten in two games against Bayern in the round of 16.
That’s the spirit.We should be aiming for 3rd. But watching our neutered attack led by our 80 mil wing wonders of Antony and Sancho is churning.
We just scraped 6th last season and did feck all in the cups. It’s a big step up for us.Maybe I'm a debbie downer , but finishing fourth and celebrating just feels wrong to me.
Type of neighbour you don’t want to live next to.Maybe I'm a debbie downer , but finishing fourth and celebrating just feels wrong to me.
After our start to the season to finish in CL is a great achievement. Also fecking over pool who will be hurt financially by no CL is fecking great.Maybe I'm a debbie downer , but finishing fourth and celebrating just feels wrong to me.
I stopped reading at the first word. I’m really curious to know what you said.Stop stop stop. If we are not able to get 1 point from two home games against two teams who have nothing to play for, then we have anyway nothing to do in Champions League no matter how many new players we buy.
How Kane still plays for them is a fecking joke. Why on earth did he sign that last contract?It’s really something that Spurs could be looking at a potential 9th place finish, behind the likes of Brentford, Brighton and Villa. Imagine predicting that at the start of the season.
It's done AFTER we are mathematically safe and not before. Remember the shame of 2012.A place where we’ve lost once all season and not since the opening day of the season.. It’s not done according to some on here .
To be absolutely precise: up until that point if the Champions League winner didn't qualify for next year's competition via their league finish, it was left up to the domestic league to decide which team they want to nominate. For example, Real Madrid finished 5th in La Liga in 2000 but won the Champions League and La Liga fecked fourth placed Real Zaragoza without a moment's hesitation.
In 2005, the Premier League didn't want to screw over Everton so Liverpool would have been out but for a massive campaign that saw UEFA relent and allow Liverpool to start in the first qualifying round. Technically they weren't counted as an English club that season, hence getting drawn in the same group as Chelsea. At the same time, UEFA clarified the rule: the CL winner always qualifies for the competition but if they come from an association that already has 4 CL places, that association won't get a 5th slot even if the CL winner doesn't finish in the top 4. Thus if Spurs had finished fourth in 2006 but Arsenal won the CL (neither happened obviously but bear with me), Spurs would have been fecked.
This got changed a few years ago and now the top leagues can have a maximum of five participants. Now the only way the 4th placed team in the Premier League can miss out is if both the Champions League and the Europa League is won by a Premier League club that finishes outside the top 4. Which theoretically could have happened, for example, in 16/17 where Arsenal were really close to a CL win while we won the Europa League. And by really close I mean they shipped ten in two games against Bayern in the round of 16.
Even after the start, they had their best start in ages and we're still one of the favourites when Conte was sackedIt’s really something that Spurs could be looking at a potential 9th place finish, behind the likes of Brentford, Brighton and Villa. Imagine predicting that at the start of the season.
It did feel a little mean-spirited, kicking you lot while you're down.Unnecessary context, I feel.
Damage was done before penultimate game during that season we actually won our last two games . I believe you can relax now .It's done AFTER we are mathematically safe and not before. Remember the shame of 2012.
Mental midgets? I wouldn't go that far. There was pressure on today, but we got it over the line. Give the players some credit.Obviously we should do, especially as both games are at home, where we’ve been very good. But say we lose against Chelsea - something well within the bounds of possibility - I would be extremely nervous about the Fulham game. We’ve got a team of mental midgets, who crumble under the slightest pressure.
I probably should have quoted the post who said that the race for top 4 was far from over, but that is what I was referring to. It is over, or if not then there is something seriously wrong which cannot be solved by just buying more players. That is what I meant.I stopped reading at the first word. I’m really curious to know what you said.
they are still in the title raceLiverpool are amazingly wonderful and extremely good, you can’t count them out. They could easily get 6-7 more points in the remaining 1 game.
It means progress. It means ETH can bring in any player he wants, within budget. It's a big step in the right direction.Maybe I'm a debbie downer , but finishing fourth and celebrating just feels wrong to me.
You’re fun I’d sayThis feels far from over
Hey DebbieMaybe I'm a debbie downer , but finishing fourth and celebrating just feels wrong to me.
He needs to sack his advisors. He didn't even get a fat contract.How Kane still plays for them is a fecking joke. Why on earth did he sign that last contract?
Yeah, can't complain about Liverpool result even if they scored towards the end, them drawing is still brilliant result.As I said we should be good from here. Shame Liverpool got the equaliser but if you told us they'd draw today and we would win then we'd have taken it so happy days.
His adviser is his brother.He needs to sack his advisors. He didn't even get a fat contract.
In fairness, they still could mathematicallyWhere’s all the wet wipes that said we were going to bottle top 4 to Liverpool like it was factual?