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The facts are, a lot of evidence was thrown out and charges dropped.
There are a lot of twisted individuals out there and these top footballers are worth a shit tonne of money.
Is it possible he caused the damage in the photo's - yes
Is it possible she caused the damage in the photo's - yes
Is it possible the damage is fake - yes (as much as you don't want to believe it)
The police threw the case out as it was all coming across as a bit of a farce. I agree with the law on this one.
Plus, it is also better for him to move overseas, this way he will have a genuine second chance.
It's not a gotcha it's a genuine question on where the line is drawn for some. I can genuinely see a situation where maybe some think the money should go to charity or some other cause
I would be happy for the club to donate that money to domestic abuse charities.
You clearly have zero experience nor knowledge of domestic abuse. You're unbelievably ignorant on the subject and shouldn't be discussing it
Have to be careful how we invest the money, if it's on a young gem then all of a sudden we're in the blood diamond business now as well.
No because we're not profiting from his crime, we'll probably lose money that we could have otherwise made considering all the club has invested in him.
Weird logic
Oh dear.
As someone said, it’s posts like these that should keep threads like MG’s locked.
Not sure how you came to that conclusion. Investing in him prior to his allegations has nothing to do with what I asked. I'm talking about should we just actually release him or would selling him for profit bring up a morality issue aswel. You think it's a dumb question cool.... Not sure how it's fine to me making it seem he owes us something
What everyone needs to understand that this needs to be handled very carefully and acknowledgement would legally probably be idiotic. Your publicly admitting guilt. The courts have ruled this a no case. For me he plays. There can be a public statement by both of them with their families to clear the air other than that we can send them to re education camp and fire the baby into social care. If United want him to stay its an easy fix but i for one will not jumping on the moral social media taliban high horse having heard a edit version of a recording. We have had Ronaldo in the team, called for approaches for Benzema , Hakimi, Neymar all who have been accused of worse so commercial interests? really are a concern. We have had a player playing a full season in the premier league and seen no commercial adversity place on their club or him. We have had a player done for drink driving this year never missed a match and the horrific results of those incidents have visited my door. My call is how much does a young person need punished he has missed 18 months of his career. Before anyone jump down my throat I have never judged anyone from a short recording. I have seen 100's of recordings to glee evidence from and only the full circumstances can ever be judged when the lead up to and the aftermath any incident is known in fact. However if we are going down the hand them high social media route we should have started with Ronaldo's return and maybe Rooney before hand. Greenwood is a product of our academy which may say more about United the last 10 years than anything.
Seems a mental day to open this again
Jesus. Some of those earlier posters claiming the 'No' voters were bastions of morality and the 'Yes' voters were terrible people must be shaking their heads now.
Feck this thread is rapid fire.
Some unreal takes and I cannot believe some of you are cool with him returning and are justifying it with the fact the charges were dropped.
Some unreal takes and I cannot believe some of you are cool with him returning and are justifying it with the fact the charges were dropped.
That's just great.
And you know more than the police and Lawyers??
Drivel. The prosecution ended the case because the only witness was no longer willing to testify. No other reason.
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Nah, if you're a rapist apologist please abort yourself off the planet ASAP and let me know where your grave will be so I can come piss on it.
Anyone saying yes deserves more than what I'll get but I'll take it without issue.
Would not say no
Why?
I've seen posts like these on all sorts of topics on here. This topic isn't any more touchy.
Also pretty confident the club will do the right thing and terminate him.
Red flag post in a thread full of them
Are these some of the worst justifications ever made, for the sole purpose of a football team potentially being better at playing football?
I think this has to be it. This is the pinnacle. Anything is possible from here onwards.
I think this has to be it. This is the pinnacle. Anything is possible from here onwards.
Strange question
The public has heard him abusing her and are judging him based on that, not on accusations, not on heresay, not on what a lawyer has said or a written report on what he may or may not.hafe done.
You can give all the examples you want of other abusers but it's irrelevant to this Greenwood situation.
As for the law, the law found Terry not guilty of racism. Because everyone saw the video, nobody have a shit about him being found not guilty just because he had a good lawyer.
I hate to use an argumentative fallacy but if we were talking about a mediocre player a lot of you wouldn't give him a second chance.
If it were Elanga (chosen because he's a young forward) this poll would look very different
If it were Elanga (chosen because he's a young forward) this poll would look very different
If any team has low enough standards to pay decent money for him more fool them. Bonus for us.
Tough one. He’s not been convicted of anything, it’s basically trial by public opinion at this point. If he is released by the club, he will no doubt be appearing for another PL side in the near future.
I voted no but it's a complicated subject. Generally I agree with given people a second chance but a close family member of mine has experienced domestic abuse which means the topic is a bit more personal.
I think if the player was someone like McTominay there would be a much bigger percentage of no votes but purely from a footballing perspective Greenwood is not only one of the most talented players in the squad but also has the profile of player we desperately need. That being said I think a combination of sponsor and media backlash plus the amount of abuse he'd get from opposition fans will mean he doesn't come back to United.
I think if the player was someone like McTominay there would be a much bigger percentage of no votes but purely from a footballing perspective Greenwood is not only one of the most talented players in the squad but also has the profile of player we desperately need. That being said I think a combination of sponsor and media backlash plus the amount of abuse he'd get from opposition fans will mean he doesn't come back to United.
Of course we should use the money if someone is dumb enough to shell out on him.
if no takers - release him. United have no part in the crime in question.
Basically 50/50!! I think that’s enough for the club to bring him back in.
Man we need goals!!
Also before any backlash this is a football based opinion and nothing else.
Man we need goals!!
Also before any backlash this is a football based opinion and nothing else.
We'll get Hojlund because he'll be a cheaper alternative, pursue an unattainable target all summer, then bring in MG because Tony is a fecking unreliable. Wouldn't surprise me if we also went for this summer's WW.
Meanwhile, Real have paid off a player on much more money than either MG or Tony, while we're here debating what next for MG.
It's so hard, because the audio and photos were imo damming. Also, she must have recorded for a reason, which suggests he has a history of such behaviour
So the ethical side says no, I think the tiny part saying if only is linked to the fact we've just suffered half a season with terrible strikers.
However I can't see past those audio, and we are basically setting ourselves up for absolute vitriol if he plays
Also he's been out for nearly 2 years - would he retain any ability?
Coupled with the articles I've read (not sure if true) his attitude isn't the best - do we want it rubbing off on our other young players
If we are considering bringing him back we certainly need to be asking all first team players, and the women's team, about their views - no point bringing him back if we are going to make others want to leave
It's really interesting to see a poll, I've been interested to see what people on here think for a while
So the ethical side says no, I think the tiny part saying if only is linked to the fact we've just suffered half a season with terrible strikers.
However I can't see past those audio, and we are basically setting ourselves up for absolute vitriol if he plays
Also he's been out for nearly 2 years - would he retain any ability?
Coupled with the articles I've read (not sure if true) his attitude isn't the best - do we want it rubbing off on our other young players
If we are considering bringing him back we certainly need to be asking all first team players, and the women's team, about their views - no point bringing him back if we are going to make others want to leave
It's really interesting to see a poll, I've been interested to see what people on here think for a while
Using him to play isn't profiting from his crime either... How did we get here...
I'm simply asking if not wanting him to play for us because of what he is allegeded to have done carries over to using his sale profits to add to the transfer budget. I feel like I'm not making myself clear and everyone in this thread is just in a fecking stabbing mood if something slightly off the trodden path is said.
He's doing whataboutery! Get him!
I guess all those that have voted ‘no’ also think that prisoners should not be allowed to work when released from prison. In fact… no… all people that have been arrested (and had charges dropped) should have no future either?
Pretty sure foreign teams will be lining up for him. Probably we csn even get a decent fee if we play our cards right
Greenwood hasn't served time for what he did. If he did the discussion could be different
Only two question marks this time. That takes you to 22 question marks used across 4 posts. Impressive and intimidating at the same time.
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