I think we saw the same one but by the time it reached the toilet bit I wasn't really paying attention and couldn't remember the exact situation.
Absolutely grim regardless.
Titanic tourist submersible missing | Sub's debris found - crew "have been lost"
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Absolutely grim regardless.
Back when I did calculus in high school my maths teacher included the Kursk on every graph that slightly resembled y=x². My Russian friend wasn't amused.
I'm sure there must have been a thread on here even if I wasn't yet lurking back then.
How soon can they be declared legally dead?
That's a very intriguing question - for mummification you need lack of oxygen to feed decay processes and lack of liquid water. The tube will be full of moisture from...lets say various sources. The oxygen will potentialy get too low for Humans to breathe but there may still be trace amounts left if nothing else is around to consume it up. The key factor is temperature and that depends on the depth they are at. At the deep seabed the vessel will eventually get down to just below freezing that might lock up any moisture into ice, but it doesn't provide the deeply frozen temperatures that can more typically create ice mummification. You probably need one of these "body farms" that the US have for CSI style investigations to see if they have run any sort of comparable scenarios
Well, I wouldn't exactly say I've been missing it, Bob.
Do billionaires die the weirdest deaths of all financial brackets? I suppose with the means comes more creative ways to kill oneself.
You're part of the one percent, yet you get obliterated in some shitty little can in the pitch black, like you've signed up to be fodder from a Saw film. And you've paid £1/4 mill for the privilege.
You're part of the one percent, yet you get obliterated in some shitty little can in the pitch black, like you've signed up to be fodder from a Saw film. And you've paid £1/4 mill for the privilege.
You wonder if they are that used to getting what they want they think they are invincible. Any mishap and someone will come and rescue them. This is the bottom of the North Atlantic not a park lake.
One percent? Really?
May as well make the best of a bad situation.
Hopefully soon. Way too many assets involved in the search.
It's the pursuit of the next high that does so many of them in, I think. Richard Branson had a candid interview not long ago where he was saying he's not trying to die, but he is compelled to push the boundaries and do that bit more each time... there comes a time, for most, where you're out of lives/luck and then the way you actually die sounds absurd, despite you probably having done plenty of wild things preceding the grand finale.
Sounds like such a stupid way to die, but when you've experienced so many highs multiples of times, I wonder if there is even a line to blur anymore if you have that spirit of adventure in you, that is. That Hamish fella sounds like he has been playing Final Destination for quite some time, so even if it wasn't this, it'd have probably been something else that seems equally hairbrained that would've claimed him in the end.
What's there to find out about the titanic anyway? It already spent more than 70 years at the bottom of the ocean before anyone found the wreck. Finding the ship was cool but there had been seven decades worth of elements in the sea eating away at what was on the ship anyway at that point so it's not like hidden treasure is waiting to still be found now forty years on from that.
As someone said concerns have been raised by a Naval expert, so he was sacked. I would be listening to him. If they thought they would be rescued, they are putting rescue services lives in severe risk to get that high.
I said this to a mate yesterday. It’s such a low energy way to die. Quarter of a million quid to look at rusted metal underwater. How utterly uninspiring.
Also… imagine having Billions and not just paying to have the whole sub to yourself. Tight cnut’s
Well it's not wrong, is it? The top 0.000033% are definitely in the top one percent. (maths may not hold up to scrutiny)
The BBC are obsessed with this, devoting huge chunks of news programming to it. Some bloke went missing swimming the Channel for charity and got a single sentence.
I don't get the fascination for the Titanic anyway. Of course, it was a horrific disaster, but the way they keep going on about it like it happened last week, 110 years later, I don't get it.
A load of rich guys spending £200K to go down in a vessel which has never undergone any formal safety testing or certification, you'd have thought they would have more sense.
I don't get the fascination for the Titanic anyway. Of course, it was a horrific disaster, but the way they keep going on about it like it happened last week, 110 years later, I don't get it.
A load of rich guys spending £200K to go down in a vessel which has never undergone any formal safety testing or certification, you'd have thought they would have more sense.
Money doesn't buy you invincibility or common sense.
Well it ought mean that if you are successful, you should have some modicum of intelligence and common sense.
You would have thought his wife/family might have talked him out of it.
Mind you, there was this woman, a few years ago, who went clambering up Everest when she had 3 kids at home who would have been left without a mother, if anything happened to her. Maybe she died up there, I can't remember.
feck me, a friend of my brother's used to enjoy rock climbing, but when he got married and was starting a family, he gave it up because he didn't want to risk leaving his kids without a father. It's common sense.
I can't believe we got an Office Space reference thing going in a thread about a lost submarine with people suffocating to death. There something Darwin Awardy about it all.
Unfortunately they have submersible full of people with none. As I said that much money can make it you don't listen to anybody unless it is to do with business.
Exactly. It was just a passenger ship that sunk. A big one, sure, but just a passenger ship. If James Cameron hadn’t made that shitty movie, this wouldn’t have happened.
The Titanic is one of those historical moments that grow with time, or so it seems. The film has a massive part in that too.
I remember the Titanic being a big thing before the movie. Certainly something I was aware of as a kid well before there was talk of one. It was probably the only other passenger vessel I could have named besides QE2.
Agree. There are so many other shipwrecks to fuss over and they're not at the same depth.
The amount of press coverage this is getting is insane. Ukraine strikes a bridge in Crimea according to the Russians, 31 migrants dead off the coast of the Canary Islands but all I get is wall to wall coverage of the rescue of the minisub.
Any chance it was Walliams?
A Night to Remember starring Kenneth More was released in 1958 and was a superior movie IMO. There was a film also based on one of Cliver Cussler's films called Raise The Titanic that came before the Cameron movie in the 70s era of survival/adventure movies. That was god awful but at the time a lot of people genuinely believed the ship sunk in one piece including some of the survivors apparently. I can understand the 20th century fascination when the ship itself was seemingly lost forever and all that was left was the stories, romance and mystique. Even the post-discovery digital imaging that came out showing for the first time what the wreck looked like was interesting. But there's only so much rotting metal that can be of interest from afar in my view and it's not something I'd find interesting through a window at the bottom of the ocean.
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Exactly. Cameron, that water psycho, has blood on his hands. Titanic has just shown these poor billionaires the way of the water.
I've never seen the fascination with wreck diving in person, it's better left to ROV's and video camera's and laser scanners. I've always felt creeped out when diving near wrecks that had crew onboard. I much prefer seeing the natural flora and fauna and that is far more interesting at shallower depths.
The deep ocean is a weird and fascinating place, but it's never somewhere I'd go and visit myself. I'll watch the video feed from the ROV from the comfort of a lovely stable support vessel.
What's shocking about this is that you can clearly see that other ROV's have got more recovery systems onboard than these guys seem to have had even though they had people onboard.
I didn't believe I could ever think any less of Cameron after I sat through Avatar, but here we are.
Yeah I wasnt planning on it anyway, but this thread has taught me to never go on any sorta trip with redcafites. A couple hours behind schedule on a cruise and they’d be butchering me to conserve napkins or something
We don't have a lot of time on this earth. We weren't meant to spend it this way.
Those people took a chance to see something only a few will ever get the chance to see. They paid a lot of money for the privilege.
Then they go and get in a glorified fecking bean tin to travel 2 miles down under water. The mind boggles, even if they paid me 1m there's no way I'd be getting inside that thing. Well, not without a can opener anyway.
This might be very cynical, but the media attention is over the top, and the rescue efforts should be scaled down dramatically now that the chances of survival are next to none.
This is just five people that took a huge risk fecking around with the ocean and probably lost their lives for it. There are bigger tragedies happening daily.
This is just five people that took a huge risk fecking around with the ocean and probably lost their lives for it. There are bigger tragedies happening daily.
I read in another thread that rich people don’t suffer from jet lag so why would they be affected by deep sea pressure? I’m with you on this one.
I'm pretty sure it's mainly rubber-necking. I don't think many of the people following this are genuinely worried for these people (and I don't think that's a failing on their part).
That's how I feel too. I'm more interested in the scientific discoveries of the deep oceans and the natural life that exists which for all the efforts made so far is still virtually unexplored. That stuff fascinates me. And if in the process you happen to come across a shipwreck then that's cool too. I think there is a purpose to finding shipwrecks and bringing back to life in some regard what was once thought to be lost to history forever. I believe there is one that has been located that dates over 2000 years ago. I'm sure in different water conditions there may be preserved objects of interest and perhaps what was once considered treasure but that sure isn't the case with the Titanic which is probably not going to be more than a iron rust mark on the sea floor not long from now.
I’ve had patients who have suffered really dangerous complications while giving birth (I’m talking like 4-5L of blood loss) who come back with the same complications after they have had their third, fourth, fifth and in one case seventh child. Absolutely mental.
Yeah but they are rich.