Music Glastonbury 2023

[Pogue Mahone]

What do we do about the TikTok generation anyway? The kids too young for even @Mockney to be down with? They like to consume their music in 30 second snippets. How will Glasto cater for them?!

Side note. They think Taylor Swift is shite. At least that’s what my 12 year old daughter and her pals tell me. And that’s even after their Gen X parents drag them along to see her live.

 

[pauldyson1uk]

This is a good history about Glaso, intresting reading.
History | Glastonbury Festival (glastonburyfestivals.co.uk)
I personally would to have love to have see Queen headlining the Prymid Stage, Freddie would've loved it, I think even now with Adam Lambert they would still bring in the crowds and have an amazing cataologe for songs.
Not to everybodies liking, Queen my all time fav group.

 

[pauldyson1uk]

another one I would love to see is Billy Joel, maybe 2024 ?

 

[Woodzy]

I don't think we can even predict what cross-generational appeal will be in 20-30 years. It's easy for us grandads to say that music like Elton John is timeless, but the people listening to todays popular music will be the oldies that moan about current music being shit and claim that they dont make them like One Direction any more.

Anyway, the Taylor Swift thing caused a stir. Thank God I didn't mention the other artist I thought has a shot pulling crowds like that (rhymes with Ned) years down the line. To be even more controversial, maybe even Harry Styles if his career continues on the same trajectory, but I don't think he has anywhere near enough hits at this point.

 

[Woodzy]

another one I would love to see is Billy Joel, maybe 2023 ?

I'm desperate to see him. He's in Hyde Park in the next couple of weeks but it's sold out.

He's never too keen on doing the UK so not sure he would do Glastonbury (assuming you mean 2024), and even then, I'm not sure he could pull a headline crowd.

I just hate having to buy tickets before a single act is announced. I'd go in an instant to see someone like Billy Joel, but i'm not spending £300 on a ticket to end up seeing the likes of Arctic Monkey or The Killers.

 

[RedNome]

ELO would be mint, Mr Bluesky

Muse, Depeche Mode?

Depeche Mode would be awesome, mad they haven't already, still sound good now.

 

[Massive Spanner]

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Looks like the people who skipped Elton to see QOTSA were fine with their decision.

What a band

 

[Annihilate Now!]

I genuinely prefered Taylor Swift when she was doing stuff like Red and 1989... but hey she's obviously a mega-star and people go mental over her new stuff, so it's hard to deny she'd be a worthy headliner.

 

[UnrelatedPsuedo]

Nice man. How big a garage is it that he can have paintings in it?

Paintings are smaller than cars mate (sorry)

 

[Woodzy]

I genuinely prefered Taylor Swift when she was doing stuff like Red and 1989... but hey she's obviously a mega-star and people go mental over her new stuff, so it's hard to deny she'd be a worthy headliner.

How dare you not include Fearless in that list. Otherwise I agree. The two albums she released during Covid times were nice albums but nothing overly memorable about them at the same time.

 

[Annihilate Now!]

Oh and never been a huge QOTSA fan, but they put on a great live performance.

Also watched Phoenix set on the Not John Peel stand and that looked great - Sunday was really spoilt for choice with headliners.

 

[pauldyson1uk]

early odds for next year.

• Taylor Swift -1/1
• Coldplay - 6/4
• Dua Lipa - 2/1
• Rhianna - 4/1
• Sam Fender - 5/1

 

[Nickosaur]

Great to hear QOTSA smashed it. I'd love to see them on tour with an extended set list, only seen them a few times at various festivals and 40min-1hr sets, but they have such an impressively extensive catalogue now. Like Clockwork... is a classic and their recent release has some absolute bangers.

 

[Boycott]

Cat Stevens was the standout for me. It's amazing most of his classics were all written in the space of one decade from the late 60s to the late 70s. Those songs are timeless for being introspective but optimistic too and obviously he was a young man when he wrote those so to hear them now performed by him as an elderly man is quite special. A few of my favourite songs of his like Trouble and Miles From Nowhere didn't get played but it was made up by hearing a few new tracks he has created which was very cool. I think for a lot of that crowd his old songs are 'new' because he went away for so long, or that they've heard the song but only through other artists. For example First Cut Is The Deepest being covered and subsequently associated with Rod Stewart.

 

[pauldyson1uk]

Cat Stevens was the standout for me. It's amazing most of his classics were all written in the space of one decade from the late 60s to the late 70s. Those songs are timeless for being introspective but optimistic too and obviously he was a young man when he wrote those so to hear them now performed by him as an elderly man is quite special. A few of my favourite songs of his like Trouble and Miles From Nowhere didn't get played but it was made up by hearing a few new tracks he has created which was very cool. I think for a lot of that crowd his old songs are 'new' because he went away for so long, or that they've heard the song but only through other artists. For example First Cut Is The Deepest being covered and subsequently associated with Rod Stewart.

I agree, I was never a huge fan, but I was glued to it, so easy to listen too.

 

[lsd]

In 30 years time I could see Taylor, Bruno Mars and The Weeknd parking festivals like this and having the hits to justify it.

They might not be everyone's taste but they are just so popular to be forgotten about and will have that legacy people like Elton etc have today.

The Killers could probably headline Glastonbury in 30 years time they would be the same age as Elton, Guns N Roses etc and again have the hits.

They might even be still able to sing too which would be a novelty for those acts.

 

[GuyfromAustria]

Great to hear QOTSA smashed it. I'd love to see them on tour with an extended set list, only seen them a few times at various festivals and 40min-1hr sets, but they have such an impressively extensive catalogue now. Like Clockwork... is a classic and their recent release has some absolute bangers.

Exactly what I'm thinking, I've seen 3 or 4 festival shows between 2005 and 2014 I think, but only one solo show in 2008. Doesn't look like they're coming here this year.
Didn't have the time to check out the new album yet, but now I will!

 

[Volumiza]

Depeche Mode would be awesome, mad they haven't already, still sound good now.

Saw them in London in 2017 and then again at the isle of white festival in 2018. I wasn’t a huge fan, just took my then Mrs but realised into the set that I was actually a huge fan

They were mint! Some of it borders on heavy techno so really got the crowd going.

 

[RedNome]

Saw them in London in 2017 and then again at the isle of white festival in 2018. I wasn’t a huge fan, just took my then Mrs but realised into the set that I was actually a huge fan

They were mint! Some of it borders on heavy techno so really got the crowd going.

I have an original pressing of Violator on vinyl, it's one of the best sounding LP's I've ever heard, the production is something else.

What an album.

 

[pauldyson1uk]

Queen guitarist Brian May has reaffirmed why his band “could never” play Glastonbury festival. May has been clear on his disdain for the event and its founder Michael Eavis in the past, previously stating how he thinks the badger cull that takes place on Worthy Farm is “an unnecessary crime against wildlife”.
I never knew this, fair play for standing up to his principles.
Eavis has made previous claims that Queen’s manager had actually sent him a “hand-written postcard” as an attempt to get the band booked at the top of the bill. In spite of Queen’s alleged bid, the founder said that the band were simply “not quite our thing”.

 

[RedNome]

Queen guitarist Brian May has reaffirmed why his band “could never” play Glastonbury festival. May has been clear on his disdain for the event and its founder Michael Eavis in the past, previously stating how he thinks the badger cull that takes place on Worthy Farm is “an unnecessary crime against wildlife”.
I never knew this, fair play for standing up to his principles.
Eavis has made previous claims that Queen’s manager had actually sent him a “hand-written postcard” as an attempt to get the band booked at the top of the bill. In spite of Queen’s alleged bid, the founder said that the band were simply “not quite our thing”.

It's obviously not that black and white though as lots of farmers will tell you.

 

[pauldyson1uk]

It's obviously not that black and white though as lots of farmers will tell you.

I suspect not, I did read about Badgers and giving TB to cattle.
Its shame because I think Queen would kill it.

 

[FrankDrebin]

Queen guitarist Brian May has reaffirmed why his band “could never” play Glastonbury festival. May has been clear on his disdain for the event and its founder Michael Eavis in the past, previously stating how he thinks the badger cull that takes place on Worthy Farm is “an unnecessary crime against wildlife”.
I never knew this, fair play for standing up to his principles.
Eavis has made previous claims that Queen’s manager had actually sent him a “hand-written postcard” as an attempt to get the band booked at the top of the bill. In spite of Queen’s alleged bid, the founder said that the band were simply “not quite our thing”.

Well that changes everything. Michael Eavis is a cnut.

 

[pauldyson1uk]

Is it even run has a farm now or it it purely for Glasto ?

 

[RedNome]

Is it even run has a farm now or it it purely for Glasto ?

I'm pretty sure it's still a working farm as will be lots around his land too.

 

[Mockney]

What do we do about the TikTok generation anyway? The kids too young for even @Mockney to be down with? They like to consume their music in 30 second snippets. How will Glasto cater for them?!

I think the generation that grew up watching a lot more long form television than older gens, and whose movie industry landscape is a sprawling interconnected seemingly endless series of multiverse films with impenetrable lore, will be fine with the idea of songs. Though it’d help if the biggest and most culturally lauded slots were aimed at them, rather than their weeping parents

Personally what I’d do is shift a lot of the ‘second tier’ modern acts up to headliners, giving them the chance to actually become headliners, like used to happen (the Elton’s of this world were headlining things when they only had half the back catalogues). Stop giving so many slots to legends, (a couple really big hitters a year - the rest can go in their own geriatric tent, with oxygen and white wine on tap) and make sure that people who only check in with the zeitgeist once a year at Glasto get a chance to actually see some modern culture and bond with their kids on their terms rather than ours. Like Stormzy a few years back, for example.

Though with disposable income becoming so generationally skewed, I’m sure it’ll become more and more profitable to keep aiming £300+ event weekenders at older and older markets.. which is its own separate problem

 

[Gavinb33]

I suspect not, I did read about Badgers and giving TB to cattle.
Its shame because I think Queen would kill it.

Well that changes everything. Michael Eavis is a cnut.

Badgers spread TB like mad, they covered it in Clarksons Farm, some farmers can lose a while heard from it

 

[Pexbo]

Is it even run has a farm now or it it purely for Glasto ?

Still a farm. We go down that way fairly regularly and have hiked through the fields. It’s very strange if you’re familiar with the festival site to just be walking through fields with no people and figuring out where you are in relation to the festival and very difficult to associate it with the memories you have when it’s busy. You can see the pyramid structure.

Also if you are in that direction make a trip to The Sheppy. It’s a fantastic pub.

 

[Pexbo]

Badgers spread TB like mad, they covered it in Clarksons Farm, some farmers can lose a while heard from it

The evidence is massively disputed. Fox hunting is a major spreader of TB and yet they aren’t looking to stop that or even put the research in to it.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

I think the generation that grew up watching a lot more long form television than older gens, and whose movie industry landscape is a sprawling interconnected seemingly endless series of multiverse films with impenetrable lore, will be fine with the idea of songs. Though it’d help if the biggest and most culturally lauded slots were aimed at them, rather than their weeping parents

Personally what I’d do is shift a lot of the ‘second tier’ modern acts up to headliners, giving them the chance to actually become headliners, like used to happen (the Elton’s of this world were headlining things when they only had half the back catalogues). Stop giving so many slots to legends, (a couple really big hitters a year - the rest can go in their own geriatric tent, with oxygen and white wine on tap) and make sure that people who only check in with the zeitgeist once a year at Glasto get a chance to actually see some modern culture and bond with their kids on their terms rather than ours. Like Stormzy a few years back, for example.

Though with disposable income becoming so generationally skewed, I’m sure it’ll become more and more profitable to keep aiming £300+ event weekenders at older and older markets.. which is its own separate problem

I think you’re still a generation out with your sweeping generalisations. The tweenagers I’m talking about have as much interest in the MCU shitfest as they do in Taylor Swift. Have you ever gone to watch a Marvel movie in the cinema? You’ll see a lot of men with beards and there’s a good chance that whatever kids you see will have been brought along as a +1 for their Marvel loving parent.

Anyhoo. My main point is that each generation has their own sacred musical cows. That the subsequent generation has absolutely no interest in. Apart from acts who dominated in an era where different generations were forced (mainly through lack of choice) to listen to the same music together. So someone like Elton John will resonate across generations in a way that Taylor Swift never will. There won’t ever be a repeat of musical behemoths like the bands and singers who came to fame in the 70s and 80s. And until they’re all dead they’ll have a cultural heft that the Taylor Swifts of this world can’t match.

But that’s ok. Times change. The way we consume music changes. And a future where we don’t pay to watch old age pensioners throw shapes on stage is probably for the best.

 

[Pexbo]

Gen-X kids at 12 were reading War and Peace for fun. None of these 12 second TikToks.

 

[Rooney24]

Cant stand Elton John. He’s awful.
Well aware I’m a minority view here.

 

[DOTA]

Not buying that there aren't a huge amount of kids that like Taylor Swift. I'd bet she's a top ten artist amongst the tweens.

 

[macheda14]

Not buying that there aren't a huge amount of kids that like Taylor Swift. I'd bet she's a top ten artist amongst the tweens.

Yeh I mean the second most streamed artist of the last two years. Young people are definitely listening to her.

 

[Pexbo]

Not buying that there aren't a huge amount of kids that like Taylor Swift. I'd bet she's a top ten artist amongst the tweens.

Anecdotally though, I, man of 36, do not know many tweenagers that like Swifty.

 

[DOTA]

Anecdotally though, I, man of 36, do not know many tweenagers that like Swifty.

Similar boat myself, I must admit.

 

[Berbaclass]

Cant stand Elton John. He’s awful.
Well aware I’m a minority view here.

Are you Boy George?

 

[Berbaclass]

Anecdotally though, I, man of 36, do not know many tweenagers that like Swifty.

Good

 

[Reditus]

I think you’re still a generation out with your sweeping generalisations. The tweenagers I’m talking about have as much interest in the MCU shitfest as they do in Taylor Swift. Have you ever gone to watch a Marvel movie in the cinema? You’ll see a lot of men with beards and there’s a good chance that whatever kids you see will have been brought along as a +1 for their Marvel loving parent.

Anyhoo. My main point is that each generation has their own sacred musical cows. That the subsequent generation has absolutely no interest in. Apart from acts who dominated in an era where different generations were forced (mainly through lack of choice) to listen to the same music together. So someone like Elton John will resonate across generations in a way that Taylor Swift never will. There won’t ever be a repeat of musical behemoths like the bands and singers who came to fame in the 70s and 80s. And until they’re all dead they’ll have a cultural heft that the Taylor Swifts of this world can’t match.

But that’s ok. Times change. The way we consume music changes. And a future where we don’t pay to watch old age pensioners throw shapes on stage is probably for the best.

my 15 year old likes nothing at all. Has a slight interest in MCU, as he used to be my +1 but has now dumped me. He watches the odd one on Disney plus.

Doesnt have much interest in Man Utd although does still wear their tops. Even music I dont even know what he likes. Whatever it is he isnt a huge fan of anything. No TV shows and even video games. Outside of FIFA and Fortnight would never play a single player game like Last of Us etc...


I actually dont know what him and his mates even talk about

 

[miked99]

In this case I think the issue is less saturation and more segmentation.

In terms of creating mass cross-generational appeal, there's a lot to be said for being played for decades on a small handful of radio and TV stations that huge swathes of the country tune into to day in day out, week in week out. But that doesn't really exist for new artists in the way it did for someone like Elton John.

It's never been easier to not have heard a song by a mega-selling artist.

I think this is a great point. Admittedly I don't listen to FM radio, but it's so easy these days to completely avoid artists you don't want to hear. I've never heard an Ed Sheeran song, apart from that A-Team shite he came out with years and years ago.

Another example, I can only name one Taylor Swift song. Not that I've anything against her especially, it's just another illustration of how you can pick and choose exactly what you want to listen to at any time, rather than be forced to listen to the same thing as everyone else because that's all there is. When I was younger I'd listen to the radio all day long just hoping to hear that song I heard one time and really liked.