One of the best episodes of all time. Fantastic.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
Do one large Andrew (yeah they pretty much nailed their cartoon depictions, Boimler more so than Mariner)
Yep. You have to watch lower decks to appreciate it. I gave it a 2nd shot and really enjoyed all 4 seasons.
looks like I remain in minority that find the second season comfortably worse than the previous. it's been very hit and miss for me so far. all the "whoa dude" talk on the bridge and Spock laughing is just not my cup of tea. as for Lower Decks, I've been avoiding it for a while now, but the last episode made it sure I'll never watch it. incredibly anoying.
oh well, only 3 episodes left.
oh well, only 3 episodes left.
Lower decks follow the low ranking personel and their strife and it's informal.
Are you saying that it's been a long road, getting from there to here?
What a great episode that was. Not seen a single episode of Lower Decks either but they nailed it.
I might even give it a watch now. Loved the episode. Fast becoming my favourite Trek since TNG.
I actually agree with your on season 2. It's good but not great. I think people are just happy it's comfortably better than some of the terrible Star Trek we had in recent years.
I thought episode 7 was really good, though.
I'd say so far there's been no dud episodes, acting has been solid throughout. Character development has been on point. Sure it doesn't have a sweeping dramatic central story arc, but it doesn't need it. I find the episodic nature of the show a refreshing change.
Spocks been terrific, I love his dialogue personally. Spock in TOS had that ironic wit which carried through into the films, he used it less as he was older but he still had that spark about him.
I found Spock in the new films a complete chore, overly serious and dramatic.
Trek is at it's best when it's a standalone story each episode, with a start and a finish to that story within the episode. It allows the characters to breathe and also allows for each of them to separately get an episode, which then allows you to get to know the crew and their characters and actually give a shit what happens to them. Multi episode story arcs can be weaved into that in later series.
I still couldn't tell you the names of half of the bridge crew of Discovery, as it was all pretty much focused on Burnham and how she was saviour of the universe in every crisis.
I feel like we've had this conversation in the Quantum Leap thread
And right after an episode that mentioned a character that was portayed by Scott Bakula!I feel like we've had this conversation in the Quantum Leap thread
Well, looks like Dr. M'Benga having an episode of some sort.
The Doctor straight up murdered a man and got away with it. I see now how Bones ends up being the Chief Medical Officer on the Enterprise.
Yep, was mostly enjoying this season but that ending was straight up anti-Star Trek.
And not in a cool subversive DS9 way. In a dumb, sub par Netflix show “our characters are actually secret super assassins who hate diplomacy and an entire Starship will happily cover up their righteous extradicial murders.” way…
naaaah mate.
Yeah they hammed the whole ''I'm a man of peace now and I want to save people not kill them'' a bit too much after that you just knew within 20 minutes he was going to go full John Wick again.
Cloak of War was really good until the end. Reminded me of the dark DS9 epsiodes. I personally think it would have been better
Two episodes left to go and one of them is a fecking muscial. Better have some gorn in tje last episode. In the tradition of star trek (s3 for dominion, s3 for borg, s3 for xindi), S3 will be when we hopefully get some gorn episodes
if the Klingon had lived.
Two episodes left to go and one of them is a fecking muscial. Better have some gorn in tje last episode. In the tradition of star trek (s3 for dominion, s3 for borg, s3 for xindi), S3 will be when we hopefully get some gorn episodes
It was certainly a curious episode.
Explained the concept behind his daughter being in the teleporter buffer which always seemed odd to me. He's an interesting character who I think may well end up going down a destructive past which results in him leaving the ship. Killing the Klingon I agree was out of character for Star Trek. But in the context of the episode and story I think it was the right decision. I don't think someone as damaged as M'Benga would allow to forgive in that scenario. Pike surely will not buy that explanation though, he was clearly reading into M'Bengas past prior to that scene and he's not stupid. I hope there will be lasting consequences as there needs to be.
excellent episode, but such a shit ending. I expect they will revisit that in the final episodes, they simply have to.
Ortegas can feck off, seriously. such an annoying character and she's almost getting more time than Pike lately, who's basically a cook now. he seemed much stronger character as a guest in Discovery than here in his own ship/show.
I just can't believe the whole season is going to be devoid of episodes like Memento Mori or All Those Who Wonder from previous season. at least the final episode is named Hegemony, as in Gorn Hegemony I assume. so it simply has to include Gorn.
Ortegas can feck off, seriously. such an annoying character and she's almost getting more time than Pike lately, who's basically a cook now. he seemed much stronger character as a guest in Discovery than here in his own ship/show.
I just can't believe the whole season is going to be devoid of episodes like Memento Mori or All Those Who Wonder from previous season. at least the final episode is named Hegemony, as in Gorn Hegemony I assume. so it simply has to include Gorn.
I think the time constraints for an episode are part of the problem. Some of these epiosodes deserve to run longer than an hour. They get so involved in building it up and then its "shit we ran out of time, quickly wrap it up".
in regards to the ending, they could have had, nurse chapel snap and kill the klingon. Mbamba taking the blame. Then they could have continued with the guilt she felt or didnt and her hiding it from spock etc
The Orville has definetely influenced NuTrek. The individual character driven episodes which Orville did so well with in its S2 and S3, have led to SNW own character episodes and its a better show for it.
I would like a "dark" trek show, say a 15 certification. There are themes they could explore that they dont really touch.
I liked the ending myself.
https://www.cinemablend.com/intervi...irector-purpose-ending-alternate-takes-filmed
The director talks about why he chose it in this interview.
https://www.cinemablend.com/intervi...irector-purpose-ending-alternate-takes-filmed
The director talks about why he chose it in this interview.
on the tail end of season 4 Enterprise, the 2 part about the Terren Empire.
Love it, cracking crossover, with the USS Defiant, even wearing the uniforms.
Seasons 3 and 4 are top quality.
Love it, cracking crossover, with the USS Defiant, even wearing the uniforms.
Seasons 3 and 4 are top quality.
The director is wrong, because the ending lets down the entire episode.
Yes, its a shame it took so long to find its stride and when it did, it was too late.
Seasons 1 and 2 were OK , season 3 and 4 some of the best Trek ever,
I would love more of the Terren Empire, there was scope for a very good spin off.
Nah that’s not really Trek - too much of that is a different sci fi.
Theres a fair few episodes about it in the mirror universe episodes of DS9.
Didn't Discovery have a fairly long and dull Terren storyline?
Yes there is , they were OK , Enterprise did it better and a few in the original series , I think.
Yeah there was and they were dull I agree.
mm, thinking about it now, maybe not.
Being a huge star trek fan, ive seen pretty much every series mutliple times (NuTrek excluded). Ive never watched all of TOS. I dont know why, but the 60s vibe puts me off everytime i start it.
I quite like TOS, there is a few that are unwatchable now, but quite few I think Iconic eps.
Maybe watch some of these eps.
20 Best Star Trek Episodes from The Original Series (collider.com)
Finished Enterprise, over all a very good Four seasons.
1 and 2 were OK some filler eps , over all both seasons 7/10
Season 3 and 4 brilliant some of the best ST ever, both seasons 9/10 with a good few 10/10 eps.
Now the bit I absolutely hated, the Final ep WTF, it deserved a better ending than the half arsed TNG Episode we got.
Tripp’s death was just glossed over, like it never happened, nothing about what happened after the ship was decommissioned, it left a sour taste after watching it
Last Ep only gets a 3/10.
1 and 2 were OK some filler eps , over all both seasons 7/10
Season 3 and 4 brilliant some of the best ST ever, both seasons 9/10 with a good few 10/10 eps.
Now the bit I absolutely hated, the Final ep WTF, it deserved a better ending than the half arsed TNG Episode we got.
Tripp’s death was just glossed over, like it never happened, nothing about what happened after the ship was decommissioned, it left a sour taste after watching it
Last Ep only gets a 3/10.
I know it was just that last episode but I hate the ‘It was the holodeck the whole time’ ending. Deserved more than that.
Bit left field but fun episode
Disney Trek
It was better than whatever this was!
It was very much in keeping with goofy Trek episodes that have gone before