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A musical star trek. Wtf? Very disney in execution.
I will never watch that episode again, (i hate musicals).
I will never watch that episode again, (i hate musicals).
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Spock should never sing, unless it's prog metal. That's a nice kumbaya episode, before finale. Not that much time to show something of big scope.
It clearly needs 15-20 episodes per season, in which episode 9 in old trek, they were just starting to show glimpse of a big picture.
It clearly needs 15-20 episodes per season, in which episode 9 in old trek, they were just starting to show glimpse of a big picture.
Think I'll skip that one like the episode in the last season where they were all dressed up. I'll just read the plot.
I don’t think there’s a big picture; the character development is serialised while the storytelling is episodic. It works really well and makes for much easier viewing.
Now if they can sack off the stupid chief engineer for a better, less kitschy, actor it’s a 10/10 season from me
I’m far more fine with a musical Star Trek than I am with a “super secret assassin doctors murder diplomats during peacetime & Starfleet covers it up because cool” Star Trek.
As a show that’s been going in various forms for 60 years it’s amazing they hadn’t already done something like this tbf. There were certainly more than enough terrible holodeck episodes that skirted with the same sort of tone. Plus ‘the musical episode’ has been a staple of episodic shows since the 90s.
As a show that’s been going in various forms for 60 years it’s amazing they hadn’t already done something like this tbf. There were certainly more than enough terrible holodeck episodes that skirted with the same sort of tone. Plus ‘the musical episode’ has been a staple of episodic shows since the 90s.
It’s a million times better than the Voyager holodeck episodes, and the stupid Vegas holodeck from DS9. There’s been far worse in 90s/2000s Trek if you choose to look for it.
I think what I like about these episodes (like the dress up one in season 1) is you can see the cast had a lot of fun with filming it.
I think what I like about these episodes (like the dress up one in season 1) is you can see the cast had a lot of fun with filming it.
I remember Buffy did it right. Fitted well to Whedon's self aware style.
ST Discovery did something similar to that, and... yeah.
Theres bits inbetween the music where there is dialogue.
theres a developement with la'an and kirk. Also klingons singing was funny.
OK I'll watch it pissed then
I don't think the development between La'an and Kirk is anything more than a nod to Wrath of Khan. I think the main development was Spock seeming to detach himself from his human side following the break up with nurse Chapel.
Funny how they can all sing
to me that was actually the best episode in S2. easily.
I can see how if you hate musicals in general this would be unwatchable. But, what I always like with musical episodes is you get to see the actors show more of their personal range. Normally you can't see who is actually musically talented or has a nice voice, or can dance etc. Unless you see them in another project where they got to show that off.
I just caught up last night watching the last 3 episodes but this was shocking to me. The Star trek crews over the years have bent rules and such before. But have they ever flat out straight up committed a cold blooded murder and had multiple crew cover it up? I am not as well versed as other on every episode of every show but that was DARK.
Sisko in In The Pale Moonlight utilises Garak’s skills in a morally questionable way.
And then there’s Starfleet’s Section 31. It’s not unknown to ST canon, though I can understand why that specific development is jarring for some
I must have fallen asleep during that bit, I couldn't get on board with the episode at all tbh. Seems like I missed the best bit (apart from the Boyband Klingons, which was hilarious)
The musical episode was pretty great! The production quality was off the charts. Klingons were fantastic.
Annoying that everyone has West End Musical quality singing voices though, nobody was properly giving it Liam Gallagher type swagger either, or rapping.
They all sounded toooo good.
Thought the lip synching and miming though was awful just to be picky.
If you like, you can start off with the serious eps, which have less 60s nonsense: Balance of terror, City on the edge of forever, The enterprise incident, The doomsday machine, and my favourite, an episode that could be used to define Star Trek: Devil in the dark.
After that there's a bunch of goofy stuff: going to the Nazi planet or the mob planet or the Roman planet, tribbles, Shore Leave, Mirror, Mirror, and some that is a mix of goofy and serious: Corbomite Maneuver, Arena (the Gorn episode), Galileo seven, and a bunch of others I've forgotten.
The one part where TOS is comfortably clear of TNG is the movies: I love 1 though it divides opinion, 2 is a classic, 3 is good, 4 is the sweetest sci-fi movie ever made, 5 sucks, and 6 is good again. Would need to watch a little bit of the TV show to get the character dynamics before starting the movies.
Finally back on SNW with season 1. Anson Mount is great, even if they’ve abandoned him being Pike and just channeling the shit out of Kirk/Shatner now.
I cannot stand Noonien Singh. British accented, constipated acting style of the Malcolm Reed school.
Rest of the cast are fine, Jess Bush the standout (so far).
Plots are decent and I like they’ve stuck largely to the “new story each week” of TOS.
I cannot stand Noonien Singh. British accented, constipated acting style of the Malcolm Reed school.
Rest of the cast are fine, Jess Bush the standout (so far).
Plots are decent and I like they’ve stuck largely to the “new story each week” of TOS.
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Had to go watch this again, it's a great episode of classic trek.
I read they specifically tailored the songs to work with each actors' vocal range, which makes sense
yeah that's all well and good, but if it was me doing it, I have no vocal range other than "strangled cat being bummed by an elephant" so they would have to have me doing something else entirely.
I assume you don't have years of theatre/acting school behind you, though?
They could auto tune you like the klingons
No, but still, I'm fecking shit at singing. My limit is the Phil Daniels bit in Parklife, and that's just talking cockney
I'm still punishing myself plowing through Discovery after starting and finishing SNW S1 before it.
Part of it feels very weird to watch knowing SNW is set before it with the Enterprise crew being a little different. One thing that's a nifty detail though (unless they never intended that) that Pike is made to look a little younger in SNW with his hairdo etc.
Just finished Discovery S2. I thought the last episode of that was pretty well done after thinking the Red Angel stuff was a bit silly (and to a degree still is). Does Discovery get better or worse in S3?
Part of it feels very weird to watch knowing SNW is set before it with the Enterprise crew being a little different. One thing that's a nifty detail though (unless they never intended that) that Pike is made to look a little younger in SNW with his hairdo etc.
Just finished Discovery S2. I thought the last episode of that was pretty well done after thinking the Red Angel stuff was a bit silly (and to a degree still is). Does Discovery get better or worse in S3?
Worse
In my opinion, gets worse in S3. It's where I finally gave up with the show.
It was actually really good apart from the songs weren't all that.
Discovery season 4 is endless comedy central casting diversity cast hugging and talking about their feeling with a five minute plot phoned in. Possibly the worst Trek ever made. Season 3 is just not very good.
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I found Michael Burnam insufferable right from the get-go.
The wait for Season 3 better not be bigger than waiting for Issac Hank Schrader to get off the pot.
Great finale, classic two parter
Not seeking spoilers but do you mean it's left to complete in Season 3? Gonna watch it in an hour or so.
No way of knowing, really. They were supposed to start filming in May, but with the writers strike - everything is on hold.