IrishRedDevil
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Do Brentford want Henderson?
This./Ramsdale must be one of the most arrogant fecks in the game will be hilarious seeing him replaced
You can’t keep 2 starting keepers happy, does nothing for the player or the team rotating a keeper constantly
Also United had issues when it was Howard and Carroll fighting it out. My memory may be wrong but also when DDG signed there was disharmony between him and Lindegaard.Good GK but I think Arsenal should sell Ramsdale if they sign Raya. I can only recall issues for teams that had two strong contenders to be #1 GK. Not that I can recall many of them.
Real Madrid : Courtois - Navas
PSG : Donnarumma - Navas
Liverpool : Mignolet - Karius
I think there was some issues also between De Gea and Henderson for a season or so?
I think this will stay for a season max 2. But most likely next year one of them will be sold. Most likely Ramsdale. Mind you he is not bad but is too cocky for his own good. There is a chace that this does light fire under him and he becomes great as the talent is there but it's unlikely especially in the GK position as if/when Raya gets a look in he would not look back.Good GK but I think Arsenal should sell Ramsdale if they sign Raya. I can only recall issues for teams that had two strong contenders to be #1 GK. Not that I can recall many of them.
Real Madrid : Courtois - Navas
PSG : Donnarumma - Navas
Liverpool : Mignolet - Karius
I think there was some issues also between De Gea and Henderson for a season or so?
Doubt it, they signed a replacement for Raya already. Think we are going to be loaning Hendo to Forest Green Rovers at this rate.Do Brentford want Henderson?
Isn't Raya better by basically every metric. That said, Ramsdale is pretty good so spending £40m to upgrade a little seems silly.This would be a bizarre transfer. I've never rated Ramsdale that highly, but Raya is a weird halfway house where he's not quite good enough to be replacing Ramsdale as first choice keeper but also too expensive to be coming in as just competition.
It's similar to the Havertz one, spending a significant sum on a player who doesn't have an obvious role for the first team.
This surprises me. I thought Ramsdale was crucial to their buildup play but I guess I didn’t watch them / him consistently.Tweet
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Show me a chart when they include vibes and showmanship and then we’ll see who’s crucial and who isn’t.This surprises me. I thought Ramsdale was crucial to their buildup play but I guess I didn’t watch them / him consistently.
He might well be, I just don't think he represents a significant enough upgrade for it to be good value for money. Especially when you consider Arteta spent a significant amount to place his faith in Ramsdale not so long ago.Isn't Raya better by basically every metric. That said, Ramsdale is pretty good so spending £40m to upgrade a little seems silly.
I mean, Raya has the obvious role for the first team. Goalkeeping.This would be a bizarre transfer. I've never rated Ramsdale that highly, but Raya is a weird halfway house where he's not quite good enough to be replacing Ramsdale as first choice keeper but also too expensive to be coming in as just competition.
It's similar to the Havertz one, spending a significant sum on a player who doesn't have an obvious role for the first team.
He's also absolutely shit, and watching the Arsenal fans climb down from the "he's amazing" stance is a great watch.This./
Could see this going full Henderson, i.e. comments in public & pie on face.
Yep. I’m so ready for the Arsenal come down this year, they blew their best chance last year. I’m ready for AFtv to return to form.He's also absolutely shit, and watching the Arsenal fans climb down from the "he's amazing" stance is a great watch.
It seems like the plan is to bring Raya in to compete with Ramsdale for the starter spot, and Matt Turner may leave the club. At this point not sure if Edu is going to meet Brentford's asking price. I do not aware any talk about Arteta losing faith in Ramsdale.It does seem a bit odd this move. Ramsdale was brought in for fairly big money, and likely being now replaced. I would have thought Arsenal would be investing elsewhere in the squad. I don't think Ramsdale is all that, but it doesn't seem, to me at least, as a major problem area for them which needs addressing.
He's massively overrated at the key things for a GK, because he pulls out the odd worldie. That being said, he is a very good keeper when it comes to line breaking passes and distributing the play quickly and accurately. I've never rated him in the slightest, but I do see his strengths.Makes sense to me, long said Ramsdale is gigantically overrated.
Well you can blame Arteta as well because he decided to put all the eggs in one basket.He's massively overrated at the key things for a GK, because he pulls out the odd worldie. That being said, he is a very good keeper when it comes to line breaking passes and distributing the play quickly and accurately. I've never rated him in the slightest, but I do see his strengths.
Him and their saliba-less defence was probably the reason they ended up winning feck all last season.
God noDo Brentford want Henderson?
I have a theory that they’re spending big now because they’re anticipating the fallout of a certain situation in a few months which will see sponsors spooked, maybe leave and that would mess up their already tight FFP situation for next summer since it’ll take time to replace them.Doesnt strike me as being the area they need to focus on right now but off with them if they want to spend money there.
I tend to agree. I don't think Raya will come in and displace Ramsdale immediately. IMO Arteta wants competition for Ramsdale, he's probably gotten too comfortable. We just renewed Ramsdale's contract in May so don't think Arteta is looking to bin him. Ramsdale v Raya I'm here for itI’ve just spoken to a friend who is a lifelong Arsenal fan - he is sincerely sure Raya is being purchased to sit on the bench, as a number 2, and has no doubts Ramsdale will continue as number 1
Probably at the start. It was the same with Ramsdale but it was obvious he was always going to displace Leno. It was only a matter of time.I’ve just spoken to a friend who is a lifelong Arsenal fan - he is sincerely sure Raya is being purchased to sit on the bench, as a number 2, and has no doubts Ramsdale will continue as number 1
It’s like us buying a new RB, of course we could upgrade but surely the money is better spent elsewhere at this point?
Seems an area of their team that does alright and doesn’t need changing but maybe I’m way off and he’ll be a game changer!
Good shout.I have a theory that they’re spending big now because they’re anticipating the fallout of a certain situation in a few months which will see sponsors spooked, maybe leave and that would mess up their already tight FFP situation for next summer since it’ll take time to replace them.
He'll be no1. Much better at playing out from the back than ramsdaleStrangest transfer this summer. Raya is rated highly, he said that he wants to go in big club to win trophies and then he picks to be second choice in bloody Arsenal. At keast he will start as no2.
There is no way Raya isn't no 1 in a very short time, of course they will leave Ramsdale in their for a small time, but no way Raya comes to be no 2Probably at the start. It was the same with Ramsdale but it was obvious he was always going to displace Leno. It was only a matter of time.
As I’ve already explained in this thread before £40m is the package we are looking for. Internally this is seen as a marker to be laid down in terms of not being soft touches in the transfer market. We don’t need the money, we already have our new number one in the door for next season. Balls in Raya’s agents and other club’s court to get it done. No way you get this done for £20-£25m unless that’s the initial fee with very achievable add-ons that take it up to approaching the £40m mark.
As expected Arsenal won't come close to the 40m. This will probably be rejected, but I dont think it will take much more for Brentford to sell.Tweet
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