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I use sanctuary the diablo 4 community on Discord

Lots always on and you can get groups anytime when you need help or want to just group up
 

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Think I'm done with the game till season 1. The loop is just not tweaked enough yet. Spent far far far too long to get any upgrade, end up vendoring 99.9%. Enjoyed it up till now though, high hopes for the future as I think I put ~1000 hours into D3.
 

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This has been my first Diablo game and have enjoyed it quite a bit. Have a bad habit of wanting to complete everything in one area before moving on to the next, so have ended up finishing the campaign at level 60 :lol:

Feels like the game has only just begun now that I have, a lot to do it seems. My question is would it be possible for me to solo the level 70 dungeon at around level 63? My Bulwark exploding Druid build has been tearing through everything including a few helltides, facetanking everything and everyone. I haven’t felt that big a difference between the world tiers so don’t know if it would be significantly harder.
 

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This has been my first Diablo game and have enjoyed it quite a bit. Have a bad habit of wanting to complete everything in one area before moving on to the next, so have ended up finishing the campaign at level 60 :lol:

Feels like the game has only just begun now that I have, a lot to do it seems. My question is would it be possible for me to solo the level 70 dungeon at around level 63? My Bulwark exploding Druid build has been tearing through everything including a few helltides, facetanking everything and everyone. I haven’t felt that big a difference between the world tiers so don’t know if it would be significantly harder.
You mean if you're ready for world tier 4? That's what the Capstone Dungeon is for. If you can clear it without problems, then go for it.
 

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I've been really enjoying the game, and for me it's lightyears ahead of D3. In terms of story, side quests, etc, it feels like there's double the game, and in the late game there's a lot more flexibility in terms of builds - in the previous game the sets were the only viable way to progress, which forced a certain play style, whereas now you can experiment and there's a lot more freedom.

My only real disappointment is the way that trading is still limited - I miss finding legendaries that would be useful to friends/others and trading them in the system that D2 had.
 
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Think I've given up with it now at level 80. I enjoy a mindless grind as much as the next fella, but there's not enough reward on offer in the current state of the game. They are holding everything back for seasons/dlcs, so feels a bit like a pointless chore right now. Back on it when season 1 drops no doubt!
 

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This has been my first Diablo game and have enjoyed it quite a bit. Have a bad habit of wanting to complete everything in one area before moving on to the next, so have ended up finishing the campaign at level 60 :lol:

Feels like the game has only just begun now that I have, a lot to do it seems. My question is would it be possible for me to solo the level 70 dungeon at around level 63? My Bulwark exploding Druid build has been tearing through everything including a few helltides, facetanking everything and everyone. I haven’t felt that big a difference between the world tiers so don’t know if it would be significantly harder.
Yeah, I cleared it around that level. Wasn't able to complete much WT4 content until I got some ancestral gear though. Best tip is to do helltides on WT3 and save ~350 cinders, then log out and back in on WT4 and spend them on the mystery chests. In case you don't know it, www.helltides.com is a good resource for farming mystery chests.
 

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At that level I would also suggest going to the world bosses and Legion events too when they pop up. There will always be enough higher levels to complete them and I see a lot of lower levels going along and getting exp and loot. Usually pretty quick as well.

I switched up my Ice shards build a bit yesterday. I am trying to run more targeted Nightmare runs for Frostburn gauntlets and Esu's Heirloom boots.

Today they are supposed to release more info about seasons in the Developer update later.
 

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Yeah, I cleared it around that level. Wasn't able to complete much WT4 content until I got some ancestral gear though. Best tip is to do helltides on WT3 and save ~350 cinders, then log out and back in on WT4 and spend them on the mystery chests. In case you don't know it, www.helltides.com is a good resource for farming mystery chests.
Cheers for that, will check it out later this evening. I noticed on my first helltide there was a chest that cost 175 cinders, but can’t remember what it said it contained. Is it the more cinders required = the better the drop or each price just reflecting the type of gear?

I only have legendary gear at the moment as my build needs specific drops and rolls for it to be worth upgrading I reckon. Don’t want to waste too many resources only to have to upgrade again.

Have been doing a lot of legions throughout and now world bosses. Was wondering why they didn’t appear on my map, not knowing you needed to complete the campaign first. I can kill the something the Assassin boss in helltides solo without taking any damage for reference, so will try the 70 dungeon with my legendary gear and see what happens.

The Frostburn gloves were my first Unique drop in WT3 but I have no use for them really. That’s usually the way it goes eh :D
 

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The Mystery chest is what you should always target first in helltides. The 175. It has more legendaries and almost always gives you multiples at least. Sometimes the other chests there aren't even legendaries. I only go after the others if I already got the Mystery chest or there isn't enough time left to go find it and I just need to grab what i can.
 
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Season 1 starts on July 20 with new:

- story with a new endboss
- items (legendary,uniques)
- aspects
- journey with rewards
- powers from gems
- mechanics and dungeons
- cosmetics through battlepass with 90 tiers (27 free, and 63 premium)

We have to create new chars, but Altars of Lilith, renown, the mount, discovered areas on the map and option to skip the campaign will be available from start, if you've accomplished them on your eternal character.
Once the season ends, the character, its progress and its seasonal stash will be transferred to the eternal realm except the seasonal gems. Blizzards idea behind this is, to allow a "crazy and fun design" in seasons without fearing to destroy the main game's balance. So the normal items will stay with you, the seasonal gems with those new seasonal powers will vanish with season's end.

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It sounds good for season 1, I expected less. But it will depend on the new powers of the malignant gems how much the play style will differ from our normal characters.
 
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Damn I should have logged on earlier for helltides. Apparently they accidentally had the Uber rare unique dropping like candy in chests. They had to completely disable unique drops now to fix it.
 

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Yeah, I heard. Apparently was only really prevalent on barb and Sorc as they don't have their own class specific unique helms. I'm a rouge so I don't have too much fomo.

I read on Reddit that a few days ago someone paid for an account with the Harlequin Crest to the tune of ~€30k. Now that guy would be pissed :lol:
 

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Quality of life advice here:
Always read your NM dungeon affixes before doing the dungeon. I've just spent half an hour in a dungeon with my fire sorc, because that dungeon had the "monsters take 60% less burning dmg" affix and I noticed it only at the end :rolleyes:
 

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Season 1 starts on July 20 with new:

- story with a new endboss
- items (legendary,uniques)
- aspects
- journey with rewards
- powers from gems
- mechanics and dungeons
- cosmetics through battlepass with 90 tiers (27 free, and 63 premium)

We have to create new chars, but Altars of Lilith, renown, the mount, discovered areas on the map and option to skip the campaign will be available from start, if you've accomplished them on your eternal character.
Once the season ends, the character, its progress and its seasonal stash will be transferred to the eternal realm except the seasonal gems. Blizzards idea behind this is, to allow a "crazy and fun design" in seasons without fearing to destroy the main game's balance. So the normal items will stay with you, the seasonal gems with those new seasonal powers will vanish with season's end.

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It sounds good for season 1, I expected less. But it will depend on the new powers of the malignant gems how much the play style will differ from our normal characters.
Thank goodness lilith and the renown stays. fecking chore they were
 

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Quality of life advice here:
Always read your NM dungeon affixes before doing the dungeon. I've just spent half an hour in a dungeon with my fire sorc, because that dungeon had the "monsters take 60% less burning dmg" affix and I noticed it only at the end :rolleyes:
I throw away the resource burning ones. I dont have time for perm mana drain almost.
 

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Not gonna lie - upon first glance the seasonal stuff doesn‘t look that great to me. Hope they add some more areas and hopefully the dungeons will have a mechanic to make them less samey. I explore a lot, don‘t have that much time to play it so will likely just have the campaign fully finished with all those sidequests once it starts (kinda hate how you should rush through first parts to get the mount because otherwise you spend a ton of time running around like a delivery service).

But I see the positives as well if they manage to get one invested into trying out different classes / playstyles (again: for those having only 1-2 hours every other day to play it).
 

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This last patch was complete bs. Nerf after nerf. Sorc was nerfed into the ground and given a shitty unique wand with random teleport on it that is teleporting people into the ground for the few that can even find it.

Nerf the Cinder drop rate in helltides. Increase the amount needed for mystery chest why?

I'm literally not excited for Season 1 at all today.

Devs already had to backtrack on some of the changes like reverting the level requirement for WT3 and 4 they changed. How they didnt see that all these nerfs were bad is baffling.
 

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This last patch was complete bs. Nerf after nerf. Sorc was nerfed into the ground and given a shitty unique wand with random teleport on it that is teleporting people into the ground for the few that can even find it.

Nerf the Cinder drop rate in helltides. Increase the amount needed for mystery chest why?

I'm literally not excited for Season 1 at all today.

Devs already had to backtrack on some of the changes like reverting the level requirement for WT3 and 4 they changed. How they didnt see that all these nerfs were bad is baffling.
Its absolutely crap isn't it. I'd already stopped playing it as the ratio of good drop to bad drop was absolutely mad, vendoring and scrapping 99.% of items (plus the enchanting fees are insane). Was looking forward to coming back to the improvements in season 1 then saw the patch notes and was just completely deflated. I'm not going to bother with it as it stands. The game was already a slog and theyve decided to make it even more so with no incentives to continue playing.

Might go back to Diablo 3.
 

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Their metacritic rating absolutely tanked. I'm reading some of the user reviews for fun. This was literally one of the worst patches I have seen. They ignored all the issues people have been bringing up since Beta and all the fixes that were recommended and needed by people experiencing the endgame. And just straight up nerfed the living hell out of everything.
 

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I completed the main story and then didn't touch it again. Nothing else than Uber Lillith to look forward to in end game just didn't inspire me. The itemization is just bad imo, all damage multipliers and cooldown reduction to min max.

Halls of torment which is 5 bucks feels way better honestly :lol: Maybe in a year or two the game will be in a better state, but right now there isn't anything to look forward to. Lots of games to play though, new poe League and BG3 will keep me occupied.
 

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Its absolutely crap isn't it. I'd already stopped playing it as the ratio of good drop to bad drop was absolutely mad, vendoring and scrapping 99.% of items (plus the enchanting fees are insane). Was looking forward to coming back to the improvements in season 1 then saw the patch notes and was just completely deflated. I'm not going to bother with it as it stands. The game was already a slog and theyve decided to make it even more so with no incentives to continue playing.

Might go back to Diablo 3.
Yeah i cant see any reason to keep going in endgame. Its just nightmare dungeon after nightmare dungeon and perhaps if i manage a tier 23 in WT4 after 20 hours of playing i might 1 item i might actually use. Its baffling it doesnt have a traditional ng+ since Diablo is known for that.
 

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I'm backing out at level 65 with around 85 hours in the game. I've had my money's worth, but I'm not playing again until they reverse all the pointless nerfs.

I've just pre-ordered Remnant from the Ashes 2 Ultimate edition as part of my protest... :D
 

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Yeah i cant see any reason to keep going in endgame. Its just nightmare dungeon after nightmare dungeon and perhaps if i manage a tier 23 in WT4 after 20 hours of playing i might 1 item i might actually use. Its baffling it doesnt have a traditional ng+ since Diablo is known for that.
Most of the DM dungeons are just crap too.

"Testing myself" by destroying three structures, how exciting. Much preferred the D3 dungeons where you raced the clock with a big boss at the end, and then only the boss dropped an explosion of loot. I think the only D4 dungeon I find enjoyable is blind burrows.
 

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Agree with the general sentiment here. Got my character more or less min maxed by level 75 and after that had no incentive to keep playing.

Just hit a wall. Getting any better gear was near enough impossible, and had no motivation to grind the repetitive end game content.

With the season 1 patch notes, there's nothing that excites me enough to get back into it. Gameplay loop will be exactly the same, albeit harder with all the nerfs.

It was (mostly) fun while it lasted but I'll probably leave it for a few seasons and see where the game is next year. Disappointing, really.

But BG3 is around the corner. Can't wait for that!
 

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Agree with the general sentiment here. Got my character more or less min maxed by level 75 and after that had no incentive to keep playing.

Just hit a wall. Getting any better gear was near enough impossible, and had no motivation to grind the repetitive end game content.

With the season 1 patch notes, there's nothing that excites me enough to get back into it. Gameplay loop will be exactly the same, albeit harder with all the nerfs.

It was (mostly) fun while it lasted but I'll probably leave it for a few seasons and see where the game is next year. Disappointing, really.

But BG3 is around the corner. Can't wait for that!
Exactly my sentiment. Didn't expect to feel like I wasted 70 bucks, but right now I kinda do.
BG3 sounds amazing but not sure if I could get used to only turn based combat. Unless I am misremembering at least in BG2 you could switch to real time action, no?
 

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Exactly my sentiment. Didn't expect to feel like I wasted 70 bucks, but right now I kinda do.
BG3 sounds amazing but not sure if I could get used to only turn based combat. Unless I am misremembering at least in BG2 you could switch to real time action, no?
If you're unsure on the turn based combat, give Divinity Original Sin 2 a go. It's also Larian Studios and will have a very comprable combat system. It's one of my favourite games of all time, and I couldn't recommend it enough - especially in co-op with a flat mate or other half. So definitely pick it up if it's on sale.

If you like DoS2, you'll probably have a good time with BG3
 

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Reading some of the highlights from the Dev chat they just had adressing the horrific patch. I think I will skip season 1.

They said Sorc and Barb will be buffed in the coming weeks. Have to wait till s2 for Damage reduction fixes (armor, resistances). UI changes, gems tab, added stash tab, elixr stacking x99 also s2
 

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Ugh, just playing it casually so not really up in arms about all that but that gems tab should have been there from the get go. No idea how that passed quality control
 

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Ugh, just playing it casually so not really up in arms about all that but that gems tab should have been there from the get go. No idea how that passed quality control
To me its just another sign they rushed to a deadline and didn't even give it a one over. It's like the font being changed right before release. I mean those are things that surely would have come up a long time ago in all the beta testing etc and don't take much to put into code.
 

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To me its just another sign they rushed to a deadline and didn't even give it a one over. It's like the font being changed right before release. I mean those are things that surely would have come up a long time ago in all the beta testing etc and don't think much to put into code.
As I said playing it casually so all that ng+ and long term grindfest and balancing stuff isn‘t on my radar right now - for that I thinks it‘s very polished all around, comparing it with most of the other AAA games I‘ve bought day one there aren‘t many bugs (at least in my realm ;)) too so this sticks really out to me.

let‘s see. I won‘t be able to put in 500+ hours anyway and have good fun til now so not regret buying it but I hope they fix it so it becomes what it deserves imho.
 

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Played Sorc in pre-season and thought the character was well below par, for what was suppose to be a glass cannon class, there is just nowhere near enough damage. Was expecting big buffs for season 1 but they never came so went with Necro instead.
 

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Was expecting big buffs for season 1 but they never came so went with Necro instead.
Yeah, I played fire sorc pre season, wanted to play a lightning sorc in s1, but the nerfs are too big for me to enjoy the class right now, will skip it. Minion necro is fun though. With the new gem, that automatically casts equipped corpse skills like tendrils and explosion, you can even afk farm :lol:

 
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Minion Necro is completely busted so far. I did a t20 nm dungeon with lvl 55 in roughly 10 minutes and 0 deaths. The mobs were lvl 73, 18 lvl above me. The hearts are completely op, so I understand the nerfs for s1. Overall, I'm 3 times stronger than my sorc pre-season at this point. The 70 capstone dungeon shouldn't be a problem. WT4 with 55 here we go. I fear how high I can go right now :lol:. They should really release WT5 for the next season if this scaling continues.

 
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I’m guessing that BG3 shits all over this then?
They shouldn't even be mentioned in the same breath. BG3 is a masterpiece made by a studio who actually cares. Diablo 4 is a mediocre game made by the richest game developers looking for a cash grab.
 

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They shouldn't even be mentioned in the same breath. BG3 is a masterpiece made by a studio who actually cares. Diablo 4 is a mediocre game made by the richest game developers looking for a cash grab.
It’s more that I’m tempted to trade in FF XVI and Jedi Survivor for Diablo as I’ve platinumed both but if BG3 is as good as people are saying then I’m happy to wait for that fix.

Looking at Diablo videos it doesn’t look like anything much more exciting than 3 was and this thread died pretty quickly.
 

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It’s more that I’m tempted to trade in FF XVI and Jedi Survivor for Diablo as I’ve platinumed both but if BG3 is as good as people are saying then I’m happy to wait for that fix.

Looking at Diablo videos it doesn’t look like anything much more exciting than 3 was and this thread died pretty quickly.
Dunno Diablo 4 is fun enough for the 1st playthrough. Its the endgame that sucks. I had some fun with playing coop with strangers online but quality of the games are miles apart. BG3 is about an immersive world and miles better graphics. D4 is sbout getting the perfect build and hunting loot that almost never drops. D4 is closer to a MMORPG whilst BG3 is closer to a turn based TW3.