Except there has never been a suggestion that he'd be moving clubs because he wants to. It's because the club wants to move him on so they can sign another centre back. All the noises out of his side have always been that he wants to stay and fight for his place.
Maguire | he stays!
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
He will leave I am still confident of that give it another week or so He won't be here .
The poster is correct. He's entitled to the money so the club should fulfill their obligations.
Ok he's not going to be destitute if he leaves but that isn't the point. He's entitled to the money
We did last summer. And seems like this summer again.
He's obviously still going to leave.
It's either £23m for the sale (£30m - £7m). Or it's nothing for keeping him.
People were talking about accepting £20m earlier in the window. £23m will be the final figure. It'll be fine. That's still more or less break-even on his amortised value. Maguire's agent is simply playing the game.
It's either £23m for the sale (£30m - £7m). Or it's nothing for keeping him.
People were talking about accepting £20m earlier in the window. £23m will be the final figure. It'll be fine. That's still more or less break-even on his amortised value. Maguire's agent is simply playing the game.
Where is the "it's not your money anyway" brigade? Will blame anyone who criticizes the absolute stupid spending by the club, but will moan when players will want their contractual obligations fulfilled. Same thing will happen with lots of the overpaid "stars" we have on the payroll.
It somehow just seems thickheaded. I'm not sure he really thinks that far. He just sees the money-bag in front of him and don't think much more about it, until a new problem (hate from the fanbase and no place for England presents itself).
Never on the front-foot, not in real life neither it seems.
I can’t imagine having him and Henderson around the squad not playing is a good idea.
Maybe Nice could come for him to replace one of their departures? Sir Jim to bail us out?
Also, if West Ham really wanted to get him they would have paid him what he wanted. Imagine going to a club who only wants to pay you half your current salary.
Of course West Ham does the right thing here, don’t get me wrong, but whatever Harry does exect staying in United will put him in the losing corner.
But to be fair, he doesn’t care about playing or not, he did that for 12 years. Now he’s earning MONEY instead, that he didn’t do for 12 years.
Of course West Ham does the right thing here, don’t get me wrong, but whatever Harry does exect staying in United will put him in the losing corner.
But to be fair, he doesn’t care about playing or not, he did that for 12 years. Now he’s earning MONEY instead, that he didn’t do for 12 years.
I mean most people are in agreement the value he is assigned in the books was way too high for him.
If he had been a 50m£ signing and let's say at 75% of the wages he is on, moving him for 20-30m wouldn't be as much of a problem and seems fairly in line for a player his age, position and stature.
Both on the bench last night looking sour.
He definitely should be in trouble, he's been an utter disaster for Utd for the last 2 years basically. Atrocious. If Southgate picked players purely on their club form he wouldn't have played since the Euro 2021 final.
He's generally been good for England though and Southgate has a core of favourites he likes to play regardless, Maguire is part of that list.
Maguire seemed quite friendly talking to Martinez.
I really dont feel sorry for Maguire anymore... he has been getting booed by the fans, you would think that he would leave and carry on his career.
Instead, he is pissing the fans even more, I cannot see how he recovers his reputation with the fan base now.
Instead, he is pissing the fans even more, I cannot see how he recovers his reputation with the fan base now.
Depends what he values more, money or career. Obviously money.
A move is his last opportunity to show he is still a somewhat level of player. His career is rock bottom now and for £7M he want to sit on the bench or worse for two years. He won't have a career left by the end of it and will be costing himself more in the long run. He'd be looking at the championship at best.
I hope you're right - but how are you so sure, have you got contacts in the game?
But it says the deal is already off…
Yes, exactly.
We'll have some transfers that are amazing value, some that are terrible value, and plenty in between.
If Maguire's transfer ends up costing us money on his book value, we simply have to take the hit. The real problem was caused by Woodward's inability to negotiate down from Leicester's initial asking price. That forced our hand on the player contract, and now we are where we are.
Man, this season is shaping up to be a shocker at the moment.
I get that he's got a contract and would 'lose' out on a lot of money if he just took West Ham's offer, but it does feel incredibly cheeky fighting for that payout after his performances the last couple of seasons. 
Don't have them around the squad. Train with the youngsters and move their stuff out of the dressing room.
If you read the article it says the deal could be revived and other journalists have come out and said it's more the deal has stalled and West Ham are annoyed rather than it's 100% completely off.
I can’t believe he doesn’t have the awareness to know what he’s setting himself up for - if not him then at least concerned family members will make him aware, surely.
If he has the nerve to hold out, why is he so meek on the pitch?
It's off in the same way Jassim's bid for the club is off.
West Ham are registering their annoyance with the process without actually pulling out. The bid is simply in limbo at this stage. There's still plenty of time - and desire from all parties - to push this through.
He'll end up one of the least popular United players ever when he does eventually feck off.
Yes there is a massive difference between 190k and 100k a week. It's nearly double.
And that's the point of a contract. It provides both club and players a level of stability. Players can (and do) make life plans based on an expectation of a certain amount of money that comes in. Clubs can plan expenditure better knowing outflows are fixed (to some degree, bonuses and what not).
He may have failed from a sporting perspective but that isn't a good enough reason for him to unilaterally shaft himself. He's entitled to, or DESERVES every dime agreed in his contract in the time frame stipulated, as long as he abides by club rules. If we want him out that badly, we'll need to come up with the cash to make it make sense. And if he values being a United player that much to miss out on regular football, tough luck. Will teach us to be more wise in future acquisitions.
I think some of the comments from him thinking highly of himself while being the United-captain also showed he was really just detached from reality. Of course he has to say he has confidence and that he can lead and so on, but it's almost as if he's build up a facade/lie and now has started to believe it all. Then the cracks start to show when he plays and he gets nervous. He's just not meant for such a big stage. His football-level is not good enough to give him natural confidence at a club of United's size.
He should go Saudi.
Quick call for all the Saudi Clubs?
Does this mean we won't have funds to sign more players?
It's not like he has a reputation to care about. Fair play to him.
Very disappointing turn of events. It is in his best interests to leave the club and our best interests too. I’d be happy for the club to negotiate a severance pay, probs want less than 7m though.
The club do have the power to make his life difficult if he chooses to stay though. We can make sure that Harry will not play for England at the Euro’s by not selecting him for the match day squads, effectively ending his career here regardless of whether he is employed or not. If he still chooses to sit and take the money then he’s allowed to do that and that is on him, but would hope that his sporting pride would make him choose differently.
The club do have the power to make his life difficult if he chooses to stay though. We can make sure that Harry will not play for England at the Euro’s by not selecting him for the match day squads, effectively ending his career here regardless of whether he is employed or not. If he still chooses to sit and take the money then he’s allowed to do that and that is on him, but would hope that his sporting pride would make him choose differently.
FFSThey actually have other targets
Literally the first paragraph of the article:
"Harry Maguire’s £30m move to West Ham has collapsed after the club grew tired of waiting for the defender to agree his exit from Manchester United. Although there is a chance the deal could be revived, it is not going ahead at the moment."
Good lord
Fair point, but it has been made clear to him he's 4th choice, so he has to hope for an injury crisis or up his levels significantly to even become 3rd choice at this point. If he's fine with that, great, but prepare for another season with a whopping 8 starts and see how that helps you.
It seems to be a one in, one out policy at the monent so guess it means Pavard won't be coming in. I'm hoping Fred going means Amrabat is bought.