Ludens the Red
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Sums him up, loser player and loser mentality. He’ll be in a worse off position financially in two years at he end of his contract if he chooses to sit on the bench here for two seasons.
And deservedly so this time round.Oh boy, the boos are going to be loud.
Aye and he suggested we sign mbappe when he came directly out of his dad's sack, on a free. Ragnick knew everything.If we only had appointed Rangnick for our sporting director .. ffs . That guy wanted us and recommended to our board to buy Enzo,Alvarez, Nkunku and Gvardiol when they were 10 m pounds each .. and we did nothing as usual.
We are the biggest circus in the world and and I don't see how this is going to get better anytime soon.
fecking hell.
This is a disaster whichever way you look at it. He surely won't be starting for England next summer because unless there's an injury crisis he won't be getting much game time. He's essentially 5th choice.
I mean he shouldn't be, but Southgate has his favourites so you can't rule it out.
Yes it was mental to not accept that initial offer made by WHU.And people here were saying we shouldn’t sell Maguire and Mctominay for anything less than 70m . Enjoy them now. You all deserve it.
Well he can just say I'm not going to WH or anywhere else and stay and fight for his place and collect his 190k every week on the bench.At the end of the day it's money he is entitled to as he signed a contract, this is on the football club and it's ridiculous negotiations at the time. It doesn't appear to be the case that he's demanding the complete difference between one salary and the other paid up, which he would also be entitled to do. I don't really get why people think footballers should be happy to take a real-terms near 50% wage cut just on a whim; it's a lot of money to just give up.
Yeah why not put him in the stands and have Evans on bench infront of him,seems he does not take huge hints.Putting him on the bench last night was a silly move. It strengthened Maguires position.
Agree, he should have been in the stands or at home watching it.Putting him on the bench last night was a silly move. It strengthened Maguires position.
I don't understand it. After last night, surely Maguire and his agent were like ''ok I'll be a squad player then''.Yeah why not put him in the stands and have Evans on bench infront of him,seems he does not take huge hints.
He is entitled to it if he stays. If he's happy sitting on the bench and getting paid that money, go for it. You can't change club for the benefit of your England/Club career and demand they pay you what was agreed under totally different circumstances. He shouldn't be happy, but he has to weigh it up against actually playing football. You can't have both.At the end of the day it's money he is entitled to as he signed a contract, this is on the football club and it's ridiculous negotiations at the time. It doesn't appear to be the case that he's demanding the complete difference between one salary and the other paid up, which he would also be entitled to do. I don't really get why people think footballers should be happy to take a real-terms near 50% wage cut just on a whim; it's a lot of money to just give up.
I think the deal had already collapsed by last night, hence the reason he was on the benchPutting him on the bench last night was a silly move. It strengthened Maguires position.
Yes i am as confused as you are my friend.I don't understand it. After last night, surely Maguire and his agent were like ''ok I'll be a squad player then''.
Not including him on the bench last night would have been the best power move.
But in terms of what you can do with your life.I think there's about 90k a week's difference, but I don't have that many fingers to confirm.
Way to completely miss the point.Well he can just say I'm not going to WH or anywhere else and stay and fight for his place and collect his 190k every week on the bench.
If he wants to play most weeks then he excepts the pauper salary of 100k a week. But not sure how he would manage to live on 100k a week with the cost of living in London.
Poor Harry, hard life.
Has to go to the Seychelles instead of Dubai?
Who knows. Maybe the sheer option is enough for him to play hard ball. The world today eh.Has to go to the Seychelles instead of Dubai?
I was just kidding, as I said, I can see why you'd fight for it - over the 2 years left on his contract, that's nearly £10M, which is generational money. Why he thinks he deserves it, is odd, if he's accepting he needs to move to get game time.But in terms of what you can do with your life.
We should have excluded him from the squad then him and his agent would be forced to look for another club.I think the deal had already collapsed by last night, hence the reason he was on the bench
He should be in trouble anyway. Surely the likes of Stones, Tomori or Ben White have shown in the past 12 months that they are at least at a similar level and realistically way above him?I mean he shouldn't be, but Southgate has his favourites so you can't rule it out.
If Colwill is as good as people say though he'll be in trouble.
I know and it will happen again I’m sure because I still don’t see who we have behind he scenes who has the competence to challenge/support the manager. Just a lot of people who will take credit when going well but be blame less when it doesn’t.Exactly.
But we this place was on the the Solskjaer bandwagon then - so it was all about backing the manager. Half of the mess the clubs ends up in, is due to our fanbase constantly egging the club into moronic things.
Sums up how little self-insight he has. Full of himself and a move to play regularly and play for England is not important enough for him it seems. Shows what his priorities are and that he has no motivation.There's an odd imbalance in the money and the power.
Maguire demands that he is little or no worse off if he leaves, but he isn't it all responsible for his form decreasing his value so much