I think they even do that to their greatest players if they have a poor spell of form.
I actually think he wants to move. However, his agent would be doing a terrible job, if he let him do it without any compensation.
If he goes from 200k to 120k, he would loss about £8.2M over 2 years, so the £7M does feel like a settlement. Hopefully both parties can bang their heads together and come up with an agree to £6M paid in installations or something. It's a shite situation all around and the sooner it's resolved the better for us both. Mainly us so we can get in players that we actually want.
I think he is in 190k/week, so the difference should be 70k/week. Multiply it by 98 (6 weeks of the final 2 years are already done) which should be around 6.8m (I guess that's where the 7m omes from).
It's hard to say with the public talk and both parties' real feelings probably massively out of kilter. Maybe he's keen to move to ensure his place at the Euros, maybe he's fecked off with footie after all the shit and would rather pocket £8m, who knows?
This should be emphasised to him. We also need Southgate to say if hes not playing regular he wont be picked for the Euros. This would shift him, more than sitting on the bench and picking up his £200k a week for nothing.
Wasnt the issue they wanted a lump sum payment rather than it being amoritized over the course of his West Ham deal?
Winston Bogarde says hold my beer, "harry come talk to winston..."
Gareth Bale provoked them though - remember the "Wales, Golf, Madrid" banner?
If you are only arguing about that part, I'll just assume you haven't read all I wrote and leave it at that.
Don’t you think the leak about Maguire might also be somewhat provocative and aimed at antagonising fans?
honestly i wouldnt be shocked if the glazers werent loving the various outlets for fans to vent. It has seemingly distracted from the sale situation. Between the maguire situation, not finishing the transfer window strong due to lack of sales, the whole MG situation, and then the sale situation it might splinter the focus of the disgust
Actually a very good point. The Maguire debacle and other situations you mentioned all takes attention away from the Glazers and their false sale.
Absolutely. No one would wish him a terrible career afterwards. But you're going to be rich, you 'v been offered a club that values your services and at which you'd play more effectively in relation to your skillset , you've had the chance to play consistently at a level, or at least a status within a team at that level, and for a wage that a majority of observers would say is disproportionate, and still you're leeching. It's pathetic and as discussed he should be grateful we don't have ultras haranguing him in a coordinated way every match, outside training and doing stuff like setting off fireworks at night outside his house when he refuses to move like in certain other major leagues....
A while ago now, but I actually took a gamble in my career and took a 15% cut to go to a startup that I felt had better potential and it worked for me but I understand it won't be a common course of action.I don't understand why people don't get this. Like they would accept circa 40 percent pay cut to leave their current jobs in real life.
It is not leeching; he signed the contract that Manutd offered. He has every right to claim what he is due and can stay if he wants.
If true, that’s fairly astonishing. Asking for the difference between his wages over the next 2 years is a reasonable request but I wouldn’t pay anything more.
History's greatest monster. Wanting to fight for his place.
Completely agree and usually I'm against booing players/performances unless they have done something properly bad (players) or if a performance where they just couldn't be bothered (performances).
I am overjoyed by the prospect of us having all functioning CBs injured and Maguire being fit to give a ball away to the opposition's attacker, or score an own goal. What a relief.
He is entitled to that money only when he stays here. We are under no obligation to pay him off to move on.
Thing is only paying off will move him
This. It's amazing how people are treating a normal transfer, the same as they would a termination of contract. Players get transferred all the time, they cannot be paid the remaining wages of their contract period. If Muguire wants to get the dough he should come out with a request to United to terminate his contract. Should United ask him for compensation for being so shit and all the points/success he has cost us over the years?
Yeah, but he's not moving on, the club's moving him on because we don't think he's worth the money we pay him. West Ham just means likely regular football for him, and everything else is a downside - he's moving to a smaller club that competes for less and will pay him less. This transfer has a lot more wins for the club than it does for Maguire, he knows it and he's leveraging it. And good for him.
Yes, because usually a player moves to his next club at a higher wage and his projected earnings for the next few years increase, unless they're at the twilight of their careers, so they have no reason to ask for the rest of their contract value. In the case of United and the stupid wages we offer players, that's rarely the case. No club wants to pay our players the money we put on contract for them, which means a lot of our transfers in recent years either a) gives a discount to the buying club so that they raise the player's wages or b) give the player a pay out as persuasion to move.
His career has twilighted long back. If he is so deluded not to understand that his problem and not United's.
