Why do people keep saying this? It is false.
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Has Ten Hag been sacked yet? We're not sure and we hope not, but it's looking more likely as the days pass.
Who should replace him and why is it taking so long to make a decision?
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No.. it was her not wanting to proceed and testify and something else. And, as in two things. I'm telling you what the CPS said and you still want to say he's guilty that's your right but it isn't factual. you can be insulting about "wanting to argue" all you like. that doesn't change the facts
It could’ve been pre-agreed roleplay?
I’m not saying it was, just pointing out that anyone that was hoping for the investigation to have resulted in more information being published was never going to get their wish, purely for the sensitive nature of it all.
So basically whatever the club does with him, is wrong?
You’re crying far too much. You care purely about a football club winning little matches, just be honest. You don’t care about morals.
He isn't going to say he did.
No it doesn't. Rape and sexual assault charges are well known for being difficult to prove, because it often comes down to victims word vs perpetrators words.
Also, more often than not victims of rape/sexual abuse are not cross examined, there evidence is usually provided by prerecorded statements of events.
All these people posting about witch-hunts and cancel culture would turn their back on him straight away if he was brought back and played like shit.
Lots clinging to every part of the statement they like the sound of but ignoring fact statement also says this is mutual. He’d have a miserable time if he returned and for someone who has made mistakes (what’s we that means) a fresh start is probably better.
If the majority of fans are wrong in wanting him gone we’ll soon find out as teams will be lining up to sign him on loan or for a cut price fee.
Lots clinging to every part of the statement they like the sound of but ignoring fact statement also says this is mutual. He’d have a miserable time if he returned and for someone who has made mistakes (what’s we that means) a fresh start is probably better.
If the majority of fans are wrong in wanting him gone we’ll soon find out as teams will be lining up to sign him on loan or for a cut price fee.
Because it suits their narrative.
You've said similar things in the other thread but you seem to be more interested in throwing accusations around than having a conversation about it. Do you honestly believe it's only about some sort of morally superior feeling for the majority of people? Is the idea that many would just not be able to support Greenwood so outlandish to you? This is a far too sensitive and emotional subject to throw baseless accusations around like you're doing.
Forget whether he's actually guilty or not, just reading through 23 pages of this shit makes me think it was always the right decision for him to go.
Imagine having this 'Is he innocent or guilty' debate every fecking time the oppo fans sing out that he's a rapist
Imagine having this 'Is he innocent or guilty' debate every fecking time the oppo fans sing out that he's a rapist
He didn't rape her. The actual story is their business, we don't have a right to know.
It’s inevitable. Football clubs want success and Mason will be successful elsewhere.
What context could you possibly need from a woman who says no to sex?
Surely the only way that MG could of played again was going to be if his partner effectively came out and made a public statement along the lines of 'he made a mistake and has learned from it. We want to move on together and i have forgiven him, and i hope others can'.
Im not for one second saying that MG should ever play for Utd again but if she had wanted to do that, it Surely would of changed the conversation?
Im not for one second saying that MG should ever play for Utd again but if she had wanted to do that, it Surely would of changed the conversation?
Nail on the head
these simple realities are lost on so many
This could easily be lawyer's trick to get the audio tape & pictures can't legally be used on court.
Also she wanted to dropped the case, a month after Manchester's police charged him. Something is not added up
can you elaborate as to what you mean by wasn’t a one off incident ?
Yeah but we don't have the full evidence or context of what he said before or 5 hours after so it can't be used.
Yes, he sent inappropriate text messages to women at the club. Shady ones. He got fired for it. Your boy Greenwood was recorded raping a girl.Shady texts. Ok....
My point is, the club was clear from the beginning that the outcome will be dependant on a conclusion of their "internal investigation". Their conclusion was that "Mason did not commit the acts he was charged with".
We know that United were bringing him back untill it was leaked. So it seems, we concluded he didn't do what he was charged with. But, they changed their mind based on the Athletic report and subsequent outcry.
Do I think that the right decision has been made ultimately? Yes. As I've said previously, we all heard what was said, and it makes us sick.
However, do I think this whole decision has been influenced purely by public opinion? Yes. That being the defining factor makes me uneasy. And it shows that the decision making at the club isn't clear and is easily changed.
Yeah should definitely be sacked
I completely agree, the only thing is Mason was never actually taken to court and found guilty, maybe if the pictures and partial video hadn't been leaked it may have gotten to that stage where he could have had his day in court and proven himself innocent or guilty.
Exactly why it should be a crime to leak things like this to the public before criminal proceedings have been concluded.
Manchester United would not have a "duty of care" to a woman who tried to frame a player for crimes he didn't commit.
and now you're just making things up. you have no idea what the new material is but the CPS would actually not mention it if they wanted to appear that the case was dropped only because of her. there was no PR disaster on the part of the CPS
I've just read Mason't statement. I don't understand exactly. He's unequivocal that he didn't assault his partner. It's confusing me and gives me another kind of impression. However, if that's the case, then how would he still be with her? In any case, they both need to get therapy.
Love how you whiffed and got your first point so wrong.
Absolved would be being found not guilty via trial. A case collapsing doesn't mean innocent not absolved.
Hilarious if it wasn't so daft
Great! Pay him millions while he's suspended, then release him for nothing at the end! The perfect lose/lose situation. What could be more Manchester United than that?
A bondage BDSM roleplay?
What the feck do we know what turns them on?
Lots of couples do weird and kinky shit, not everyone is vanilla like on the CAF.
That’s not correct.
He has been doing that the whole time. Also he hides what he really wants to say behind word salads that really don't say anything of note.
Might be it or it could be all financial, who knows.
Says Giggsy13.
No it isn’t. Our fanbase isn’t special, he’s not going to be welcomed at any top club in this country.
Do you have actual evidence as to Why she changed her mind, if she even did at all? Or as usual you are assuming you know based on nothing concrete at all?
He sent unsolicited dick pics to women he had no relationship with. It's a sexual offence.
So why hasn't that come out and how does that still not end up with him having to leave, when it comes out she has lied?