I am saying if the club turn around and say this is the only number 9 we can get that fits your profile and its going to cost x then ETH isn’t going to say no. Especially considering no 9 was the no1 priority this summer.Not sure which take is naive, mine or yours. ETH was here last summer when we spent 100m on Antony who he coached for 2 years. Are you telling me that ETH can not veto a transfer when it's getting into ridiculous numbers? Or that ETH should not care? Manager is pretty much part of the recruitment department, by all accounts he is the one choosing the talent and profile, and by now it's been how many former players?
And by many accounts he was against the idea of Rangnick and therefor we got rid, whatever he supposed role would have been. So this idea of excluding him of any blame is pretty much ridiculous.
As the video from yesterday explained. Amrabat gives ETH more options to deploy. I think of it as guardiola at City, where he changes the makeup of the team depending on his tactical plan.If Amrabat joins one of Bruno or Mount will end up on the wing most games unless Case or Amrabat are injured.
He's not going to be involved vs Arsenal regardless.Does he have to be signed before lunchtime tomorrow to be involved against Arsenal?
Yeah sorry mate I thought I’d edited my post, seems like he’s back much earlier than initially thought which is great news.Think he's due back in October last I saw.
All good mate. Can't wait to see him get a real crack at it.Yeah sorry mate I thought I’d edited my post, seems like he’s back much earlier than initially thought which is great news.
Yeah. I think United currently are in no position to reject low ball offers. I get it that we want to put out the image as hard nosed negotiator who can't be take advantage of.Maguire we refused to payoff despite him having no business at the club.
Mctominay we refused £30m for despite that being probably his price.
There are two.
So a budget alternative to FdJ?Amrabat is not a Casemiro replacement, he adds something Casemiro doesn’t. He is a first phase midfielder and will be important for our buildup.
Not in his current form. Also, how many games do you think Mainoo should be playing as a youngster breaking into the first team. For me 20 - 30 games would be great for a first real season if he proves capable. He'd definitely get that and more even with Amrabat in the team. Injuries, suspensions, fitness issues.. etc.Too much competition is a drawback. Overcoming Casemiro is competition enough.
Pretty muchSo a budget alternative to FdJ?
Mainoo will play enough both in Amrabats role and in Casemiros this seasonI'd rather we prioritised Mainoo's development. I don't see a way in which Amrabat wouldn't limit his involvement.
Which video?As the video from yesterday explained. Amrabat gives ETH more options to deploy. I think of it as guardiola at City, where he changes the makeup of the team depending on his tactical plan.
He idea of a fixed starting XI is an outdated model, imho.
Which video?
completely agree.We certainly need to strengthen in midfield but I am concerned that he isn't really good enough. He was outstanding in the world cup but the league is a better barometer and he has not been a star.
You need 100m for that, we don't have that kind of money for 1 playercompletely agree.
Not many of us had heard of him before the WC and he hasn't exactly been setting Serie A on fire with his performances. This is a signing I'd expect a top half PL team to make but not the likes of City / Madrid / Barca etc, which is where in our minds we belong and be making similar signings like they are.
If we're signing a 27 year old, I'd be wanting him to be a world class player known to the world who other teams go "wholly feck, that is one hell of a signing". I don't see that in amrabat at all.
Yeah, 20-30 games would be fine. If he will get that with Amrabat around then great. I have my doubts however.Not in his current form. Also, how many games do you think Mainoo should be playing as a youngster breaking into the first team. For me 20 - 30 games would be great for a first real season if he proves capable. He'd definitely get that and more even with Amrabat in the team. Injuries, suspensions, fitness issues.. etc.
Hopefully that proves to be the case.Mainoo will play enough both in Amrabats role and in Casemiros this season
That strategy hasn't exactly been working out for us over the last 10 years or so to be fair.completely agree.
Not many of us had heard of him before the WC and he hasn't exactly been setting Serie A on fire with his performances. This is a signing I'd expect a top half PL team to make but not the likes of City / Madrid / Barca etc, which is where in our minds we belong and be making similar signings like they are.
If we're signing a 27 year old, I'd be wanting him to be a world class player known to the world who other teams go "wholly feck, that is one hell of a signing". I don't see that in amrabat at all.
We've simply been signing the wrong 27 year olds...Di Maria, Sanchez etc under Woodward.That strategy hasn't exactly been working out for us over the last 10 years or so to be fair.
If it makes you feel better, I personally think Arsenal have spent 105m on a Amrabat level player who happens to be British.We've simply been signing the wrong 27 year olds...Di Maria, Sanchez etc under Woodward.
Unfortunately, that's the type of budget we have leftcompletely agree.
Not many of us had heard of him before the WC and he hasn't exactly been setting Serie A on fire with his performances. This is a signing I'd expect a top half PL team to make but not the likes of City / Madrid / Barca etc, which is where in our minds we belong and be making similar signings like they are.
If we're signing a 27 year old, I'd be wanting him to be a world class player known to the world who other teams go "wholly feck, that is one hell of a signing". I don't see that in amrabat at all.
And he thoroughly outplayed said player head to head in the ECL final last seasonIf it makes you feel better, I personally think Arsenal have spent 105m on a Amrabat level player who happens to be British.
Is your concern about popular reaction to our signings or to sign a player in a position that badly needs reinforcement? Who gives a feck what other people think of the signing? We have based our entire transfer strategy on your exact philosophy of signing big names for the last 10 years and look at where we are. And the idea that Real Madrid or Barcelona would not sign a player that was the midfield anchor of the first African team to reach a World Cup semifinal is funny. The same Real Madrid that have signed such famous superstars as Emmanuel Adebayor, Julien Faubert, Jonathan Woodgate and Thomas Gravesen. And the very Barcelona that were making head-scratching signings even as recently as last summer.completely agree.
Not many of us had heard of him before the WC and he hasn't exactly been setting Serie A on fire with his performances. This is a signing I'd expect a top half PL team to make but not the likes of City / Madrid / Barca etc, which is where in our minds we belong and be making similar signings like they are.
If we're signing a 27 year old, I'd be wanting him to be a world class player known to the world who other teams go "wholly feck, that is one hell of a signing". I don't see that in amrabat at all.
Its looking like EtH doesn't want him longterm too if we are trying to put in a break clause. He just wants him for cover.
Yep. Looks like the plan was Mainoo alongside Casemiro. Amrabat seems to be a short-term cover option, which presumably makes the obligation to buy that Fiorentina want a bit difficult for us. I don't think this is happening.Its looking like EtH doesn't want him longterm too if we are trying to put in a break clause. He just wants him for cover.
Yeah they have no reason to do us a favour especially since he has a year left.Yep. Looks like the plan was Mainoo alongside Casemiro. Amrabat seems to be a short-term cover option, which presumably makes the obligation to buy that Fiorentina want a bit difficult for us. I don't think this is happening.
Was the derisory offer ever confirmed and is Tariq Panja just commenting on the alleged derisory offer or confirming it happened?
Is this even a good source?
He's very, very reliable. He doesn't report on transfers that much, but he has really good sources all around the world.Is this even a good source?
We aren't crying poor. We are poor. Those Italian clubs do it all the time!
Looks like he is just confirming and kinda giving his take on it.Was the derisory offer ever confirmed and is Tariq Panja just commenting on the alleged derisory offer or confirming it happened?
Crying poor? The Italian clubs are the masters of it! Anyway, that was yesterdays news, from the sounds of it were going to go back in with an improved offer.
Yeah but Amrabat is a seasoned international with years of playing in a top league under his belt. Mainoo’s time will come.He can play as the 6, but we won't be dropping Casemiro. I agree that he is being signed as a tactical variation, but that sounds like a squad role to me. We already have competition for the 6 in Mainoo. McTominay is still hanging around too.
It's the suspensions that are going to happen as Casemiro plays on the edge all the time.We desperately need to signing to have enough bodies as cover for the Prem season.
It would allow us to rest Casemiro once in a while.
Not sure if the club is actually in FFP troubles, or just briefing media to get a better deal on deadline day.
