It is terrible and I feel sorry for those people, who were simply unlucky to be born in the wrong place.
It's brutal, looking like early stages of Russian combat. I've already said I believe we should have taken a weeks pause.
It won't end here, unfortunately.
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Basically, you are supporting Israel to do a genocide to Palestine. Well done. Why you are not yet banned is beyond me
All of Israel's Arab neighbours today either hold friendly diplomatic relations with them or are in the process of formalising peace talks. None of them are remotely interested in the Palestinian cause nor igniting hostilities with them. They also share the same disdain for Israel's enemy in the region - Iran.
Israel are raining hell on innocent civilians, babies butchered by the hands of Hammas, babies blown too pieces by Israelis bombs, that’s a great way too respond isn’t it
Rightly or wrongly, the events on Saturday only diminished the relevancy of anything that has gone on before, only helped justify Israel's policies. In the eyes of the world, the "ignorant and uninformed" as some may say, nothing can excuse what Hamas did.
Yes good points. Just like in Ireland not every person was in the IRA during the troubles. It would be like Britain bombarding Dublin and turning it to rubble. Serves no purpose other than some kind of revenge, and is a call to arms for many many more people not just from Palestine
Yea I mean that's why I'm currently under a blockade in Germany where I'm not allowed to travel to any other country because France and UK is controlling our borders. That's how wars work everywhere else as well.
Nor should it ever be excused.
I feel for them, they were simply unlucky to be born in the wrong place.
They actually chose to live there. Believing they were safe.
It's a descriptive not a legal definition. You can describe it as apartheid, without it being analogous.
These are people who only a couple of hours prior to being killed, have kidnapped or aided in the kidnapping of civilians, or slaughtered children and women. They might have been the ones responsible for killing my family member. you don't need to feel sorry for me. I write it so that you remember it's real.
It's rather a different situation. This is more a Grozny, Aleppo, or Bakhmut, where the only way to take the city without being slaughtered is fires.
Indeed most of them did. The other side were displaced from that same land and are now imprisoned near it. I feel your pain Amir, it's a tragedy. It's been really really hard for everyone here these last few days. I do not expect Israelis (even leftist like yourself) to lament Gaza's dead just yet, because you have a lot to deal with as is.
No I never compared Hamas to the ANC or it's armed wing MK. My point was to illustrate the ability of the West to ignore blatant extreme systemic oppression when convenient, going as far as denigrating freedom fighters as terrorists. Hamas are actual terrorists. But they're not in the West Bank. What's the excuse for treating Palestinians there as inferior citizens?
Israel will argue the purpose is to disarm Hamas, though the question is obviously at what price.
This is the normal feeling. Of course I am sorry for you and for all the Israelis affected by the atrocities committed by Hamas last weekend.
And if recent events cause you to say, "yeah feck all the history and context", then either your mind was already made up from the beginning, or your moral compass needs recalibration
I've posted about this so many times, but it's been Israeli maximalist iron wall policy since 1977 combined with Palestinian political failure to secure a state. That's fairly well recognised on both sides of the argument. Yes it's systemic oppression, but no you cannot compare it to South Africa because the security concerns are such that you couldn't not oppress safely these days. South African apartheid was mainly solved through peaceful protest, and the violence never reached the stage of an ISIS type army entrenched in a city that the oppressors could not enter without first flattening.
Can we stop with the unverified intentionally inflammatory footage please?
You're right, but Israel have gone off the deep end now, and progressed to 'Get Hamas at all costs; feck the civilians.' Not only that, but they seem to have the emotional, political, and international capital for it. It's deeply scary.
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The UN are at fault here, they should have pulled out their staffers as soon as news of the Hamas attacks broke. Anybody leaving staff in Gaza has exposed them to a city under siege, and it's why only the most fearless of journalists and never the UN have ever covered places like Mariupol and Grozny when under siege.
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Bye ben gvir and smotrich. Try to choke on the way out chumps.
We are complicit… Hamas -despite being on all our terror list for 20+ years- has been globally normalised as a de facto representative of the Palestinians… Many of our allies in the Middle Eastern have close ties with them and you never hear it mentioned. It’s accepted.
The good news just keeps on coming for Sir Keir Starmer this week.
Yes, it was. There's been a million articles about this; most are in agreement that mainly peaceful means not insurgent ones brought an end to apartheid. Happy to point you to a few.
Are the Far right Ministers still part of the Israeli government?
Hard to do much about a group like that without doing what the Israelis are doing now.
Kicking them to the curb was a major condition of the opposition. So you can assume not.
Good riddance. Unfortunately Netanyahu still remains. For now. Hopefully in the future, Israelis deal with him.
Interesting as someone in Germany you would write this given in '45 the country ceased to exist, was split up between the Allies, and was only reunited in 1990. There was literally a wall dividing Berlin that you couldn't cross as the Soviets ravaged the East while America brain drained the West. Losers in war always get completely fecked over, who knows how modern Germany would look if the Soviet Union had not collapsed.
Except there is/was very large condemnation of Israel worldwide and support for the Palestinian people, we see it in the streets of Manchester/London, not too long ago there was someone on the caf asking about unfurling a Palestinian flag at a game somewhere. Just not enough support to influence Governments though I agree, and all governments worldwide know they would act in the same way.
