Why is he so defiant? Total denial.
City and Financial Doping | Charged by PL with numerous FFP breaches
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
Zero chance Pep stays if City get booted out the league. His reputation will take a bit of a hit, but he'll find somewhere new to work for sure.
He will stay, he won’t have the same advantages anywhere else. Sporting integrity of the whole league at stake. Anything less than expulsion is a joke.
These clowns who say it's "only" 20m, seem to be forgetting that clubs are already allowed outrageous losses. To lose more on top is obviously something to crack down on, as otherwise where is the line? Oh it's only 1p beyond the 105m you can lose, or 10m, 50m, 100m etc?
People seem to be utterly incapable of understanding this.
One charge v 115.
A totally different charge.
Admissions of guilt on that 1 charge anyway.
Easier to monitor than a lot of City's stuff.
He won't stay if they're relegated - neither will the likes of KDB / Haaland / Bernado etc.
He'll be offered the Barca and PSG jobs, both of which i think he'd take. Either that he takes a year out and does some national team stuff.
Don't forget a few of the high profile city players have a pep clause in their contracts, if pep goes, so do they.
How that will upset promotion/relegation battle? Clubs who earned to go up, will go up. City will take relegation place from 18th team.
Only if you were talking about next season where basically City is nailed for promotion from any league where they end up.
He's not going to admit it's all been utterlyIllegitimate is he?
Because it'd make his achievements there utterly worthless.
Thats exactly why they will double his salary to keep him. Barca are in a financial crisis, he won’t fancy those restrictions. And PSG means nothing with no CL.
He will play the victim and stay for a few years to get them back to the top division, all while collecting his salaries. They are intertwined now.
He’s already stayed at Manchester City much longer that he stayed at any other club, including two of the biggest clubs on the planet and one of them his hometown club and big “love”. He’s clearly been put on a retainer since he went to Bayern (once City began recruiting his old Barça directors) and the money he is on is likely equivalent to what Messi / Ronaldo are receiving currently. So no, I actually don’t think there’s any chance he’s going anywhere if they continue to pay him like that, no matter what league. He’s corrupt as feck, and he and his family/brother etc are now rich beyond their widest dreams.
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Incoherent ramblings, but admits he hasn't read the charges or the details of the case against them.
Same as he is refusing to admit that City is spending big money for
As per the poster I replied to, I'm not sure the PL can just send down teams outside of the relegation places without the league below agreeing as they are a separate body. You could make a case it would be commercially good for those teams, as everyone would want to see the cheaters playing at Plymouth etc. so you'd get full stadiums but then I think most teams would vote against it as it just means there's one less promotion spot and you'll likely be getting embarrassed home and away.
I think they lose those titles regardless, that's not really that big a deal.
I don't really know what would be severe enough for all the knock on effects they have caused, it's incalculable how much they negatively affected other teams for the last decade or so.
Man City away at Accrington Stanley, a crazy sight
No, but when this all came out 9 months ago he was playing the “I’m totally in the dark” card. Was saying he’s had assurances. Now he’s assuring everyone.
The FA should of had a rule if you don't co-operate with such investigations the club can be suspended from the league until they do co-operate. How can you delay a decision based on that? The charges were announced last season, they should have been suspended immediately. That would deter clubs from bending the rules.
If the Premier League chose to expell them City would then have to apply to join the EFL and if accepted (which isnt guarenteed) would have to start from League 2
He has gone from "If they lied to me i'll leave" to "i'll stay, even in league one".
I think he knows a lot more than he lets on.
Why would City leave one of their most valued employees in the dark as to the details of the proceedings? He's sworn to silence but his demeanor suggests either delusional defiance or smug confidence
You have my vote
Of Barca stock so he knows more than a thing or two about blagging your way through a cut and dried scandal.
Yes, he'll stay.
He had no problem walking away from his hometown club and Bayern. But City.... nope..Because in one way or another they have his balls in a vice. He can't walk away clean and he knows it.
Won't happen because they're owned by a country UK government don't want to upset, too much.
Points deduction and relegation Juventus style pretty certain I think, just a question of how long the process takes.
They can't apply for Championship?
No, under EFL rules they have to start in League 2
As far as I know. They can apply for membership to the football league. Football league can decide whether or not to accept and what level they'll play at.
Agreed about the government thing. Mental how an insignificant club like city are able to avoid any real scrutiny since the charges were brought. We’ve seen more talk about spurs dodgyness 15 years ago than them. Suspicious.
Disagree about the punishment. Feckers will get away with it.
But it is all based on the fact if they are expelled. Bit if PL decide to punish them with point deduction (lets say 100) then they are just "legally" relegated and then they (by default) go in Championship.
So, i think that PL will do that. Easy route for them.
Think Arsenal > Liverpool > Chelsea. Though Arsenal and Liverpool is very close.
Because he knows the PL don't have the balls to do anything to them.
The punishment isnt decided by the Premier League it will be decided by the independent panel, a 100 point deduction would be silly anyway considering they are facing 115 charges.
So nothing will change. Last few years we were supporting City to stop Liverpool. Now we will support Arsenal. Happy times ahead.
You can support Arsenal if you want. But that is something I will never do. Hate them.So nothing will change. Last few years we were supporting City to stop Liverpool. Now we will support Arsenal. Happy times ahead.
Less evil and shit...
I’d love a nullification of all player contracts signed from the year they’re found guilty of financial irregularities, relegation and disqualifying the entire board from participating in anything football related forever.
Always thought there was something dodgy about his seemingly self enforced "holiday" from Barcelona and football in general in the wake of that Fuentes / Operacion Puerto thing in 2010 personally.
Ahh. You beat me to it. He’s smelling the coffee and it smells like Lamex stadium on a snowy Tuesday night.
It’s not just lack of cooperation, it’s the fact they’re rejecting the charges, which Everton accepted. If City are found in breach of even a single charge, they PL has to throw the book at them due to the way they’ve conducted themselves throughout the process. It also appears as though they’re scared of City’s law team otherwise they’d be going after them with more purpose than they currently are. It’s within their best interests to come to a conclusion ASAP.
He's the public face of City, leading press conferences week in week out. Anything other than extreme confidence is to be expected, most other managers would do the same.
Don't think you can read too much into what he's saying in all honesty.