Maguire tried a 1:2 pass with Rashford on the right wing. He passed it to Rashford and ram along the touch line to receive it and run into space but of course Rashy had other ideas.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
Can the club take a hint and see that we need more of Mainoo’s skillset across the board? It’ll solve this decade long mystery of our disjoint football.
Exceptional talents don’t grow on trees but we always ignore these things when it comes to our targets and then wonder why we don’t have a team that has those qualities.
Exceptional talents don’t grow on trees but we always ignore these things when it comes to our targets and then wonder why we don’t have a team that has those qualities.
This shows Rashford is a low football IQ players and should be dropped immediately.
I scanned through the thread looking for your post but missed it unfortunately. Looks like he's a dead cert then.Mainoo passed my test years ago. I've been a fan for a long time. Seeing him do it in the first team at Goodison is extra nice, though! My initial post after yesterdays game should tell you everything
Having him as our deepest midfielder in possession to play out from the back and advance the ball compared to Casemiro or Eriksen is night and day.
Look out for Homer Simpson frolicking.
It really isn´t that simple, we have seen smaller players like Xavi, David Silva, Luka Modric, Marco Veratti be absolutely impossible to get the ball from at times.
It is about awareness, composure, balance, the ability to read the game.
Frenkie de Mainoo?
In all seriousness, I'm guessing that's how Erik envisaged Frenkie fitting in our team obviously he'd do it more consistently and at a much higher level.
In all seriousness, I'm guessing that's how Erik envisaged Frenkie fitting in our team obviously he'd do it more consistently and at a much higher level.
Unbelievable debut. Jude Bellingham springs to mind.
He did the simple things well and they way he carried the ball through the midfield is exactly what EtH from FdJ. Hope he stays injury-free and has a storming season.
Say this again.
Because Mainoo was clearly the best player on the pitch.
That was THE most frustrating moment of the match - Rashford really needs a reality check - he is not a good footballer. He relies purely on his instinct to run directly at defences, if he hasn't turned back and slowed the play down completely. He has so little else going for him where actual football and build up play is concerned. I can only think he didn't pass to Maguire because he doesn't rate him. Ironic.
What a performance!
Emergence of young academy players is what has kept me sane in the last 11 years. Some thrived, some did not, but the likes of Januzaj, Rashford, Garnacho, Mainoo have provided tremendous joy at the different times during this ongoing shit show. It has been the best part about United during this period.
For me, midfield is the important area of the pitch and midfielders the most important players in a good team. Hope this kid can fulfill his potential and become a part of ours for years to come.
Emergence of young academy players is what has kept me sane in the last 11 years. Some thrived, some did not, but the likes of Januzaj, Rashford, Garnacho, Mainoo have provided tremendous joy at the different times during this ongoing shit show. It has been the best part about United during this period.
For me, midfield is the important area of the pitch and midfielders the most important players in a good team. Hope this kid can fulfill his potential and become a part of ours for years to come.
Couldn't catch the 1st half but I saw the 2nd half and I am impressed by his composure and ability to move the ball under pressure. Very excited to see how he'll turn out.
He is the kind of player Onana wants ahead of him, the dallying Onana does on the ball is purely down to nobody showing, Mainoo does and will do so.
Who is he similar to in terms of skills and style of play? Pogba?
He was the only player in midfield that knew anything about ball retention.
Bruno was trying his usual style of pinging it forward as soon as he gets the ball and Scott his usual hiding from the ball.
If Scott can play even half has good as Mainoo did, hell actually be a semi-decent midfielder.
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Mainoo played exactly as I expected him to. If you had seen him play before you would know that's how he plays. He's always a head of everyone's else. Watch him takeoff now, he's ready. Casamiro will be vital in the development of Mainoo to help guide him through games.
I can also see Gore following a similar path at some stage this season.
I can also see Gore following a similar path at some stage this season.
The calmness he had in the lower age groups seems to have been effortlessly brought to senior football! Didn't see any nerves at all. Can't wait to see Martinez back also to play with Mainoo, will help so much with ball progression and cut off this hoof the ball forward. Onana will also appreciate it a lot, to have someone show for the ball.
Also looking forward to seeing his passing range in action when he settles in more - there was one ball over the top yesterday to release Bruno which was great.
Really good debut, can't recall the last time we had a central midfielder breaking in from the academy with such ease.
Also looking forward to seeing his passing range in action when he settles in more - there was one ball over the top yesterday to release Bruno which was great.
Really good debut, can't recall the last time we had a central midfielder breaking in from the academy with such ease.
Very impressive from an 18 year old. Will be interesting to see how he develops.
It's good to see the Caf aren't getting carried away after 72 minutes of Premier League football.
You’re fun.
If you weren’t aware, this thread had 36 pages and over 1400 posts in it before yesterday’s game, nearly all along these lines:
The burden of expectation has been a constant for Mainoo well before yesterday’s game. Not only has he met the bar, he exceeded it and was the MotM in the most hostile environment we’ve encountered all season.
Everything continues in line with what already was, with a multiplier on it, given his debut, as it would do.
Played superbly, he made other players better.. Maguire looked better, Shaw made a big difference too. Mainoo shaped our performance, providing that platform.
And we need that because we have a lot of players out of form. Rashford, Bruno... these two are not playing anywhere close to what they should and could be. And it's affecting us, big time. The both of them should look at Mainoo's performance. Responsible, intelligent, assured.
Mainoo has soooooo much to learn and he will need time and space to develop (because his form may dip etc, which is natural...) and I hope we don't expect too much from him.
Eriksen and Casimero should help him, but, but, and this is just my opinion ok.. I hope he approaches these games and stamps his personality on the team, rather than the other way around. We have too many insipid, emotional, unreliable players in that squad and Mainoo needs to stay away from all that.
We needed this type of fresh, new energy, desperately. I hope he just plays as he wishes because he's good enough.
And we need that because we have a lot of players out of form. Rashford, Bruno... these two are not playing anywhere close to what they should and could be. And it's affecting us, big time. The both of them should look at Mainoo's performance. Responsible, intelligent, assured.
Mainoo has soooooo much to learn and he will need time and space to develop (because his form may dip etc, which is natural...) and I hope we don't expect too much from him.
Eriksen and Casimero should help him, but, but, and this is just my opinion ok.. I hope he approaches these games and stamps his personality on the team, rather than the other way around. We have too many insipid, emotional, unreliable players in that squad and Mainoo needs to stay away from all that.
We needed this type of fresh, new energy, desperately. I hope he just plays as he wishes because he's good enough.
Did you have money on Everton or something?
(1) He didn’t (7 of 41 passes) and (2) he did. It might not get the headlines of an overhead scissors kick but he did everything his role demands… and well. Who else saw the danger and cleared the ball off the line?
I’m not getting carried away because like a lot of United fans (including on here), I’ve watched him for two years and thought he was a potential gem after a couple of games. 8/10 is not even generous.
“Kobbie Mainoo’s game by numbers vs Everton: 100% tackles won 83% pass accuracy 57 touches 34/41 passes completed 5 duels won 3 ball recoveries 2/3 dribbles completed 2 long balls completed 2 interceptions 1 clearance 1 block”
Definitely liked what I saw. His combination of being assured on the ball, and his willingness to throw himself at shots and crosses was pretty nice.
If he can do that with any kind of consistency, he could soon be a starter, but obviously he is young.
If he can do that with any kind of consistency, he could soon be a starter, but obviously he is young.
Good first half, steady 25 min after.
Happy for him. He's the play Hannibal think he is. Technic, powerful and with a big future.
Hope he continues like this, but to be honest and don't want him to be over exposed and I don't want to be to hyped now.
I am waiting 10-15 games to get an assessement
Happy for him. He's the play Hannibal think he is. Technic, powerful and with a big future.
Hope he continues like this, but to be honest and don't want him to be over exposed and I don't want to be to hyped now.
I am waiting 10-15 games to get an assessement
I think the key thing that Bruno said in his comments, he just doesn't make mistakes. That is an incredible trait at his age and considering he's constantly picking up the ball in between the CBs and under pressure. He draws players in and passes at the perfect time or uses his body to dribble away with ease. Hard not to get excited, he's exactly what we're missing. You just need to see the difference when Amrabaat came on, it was night and day.
I think the inherent style is closer to Pogba but is being molded to play like De Jong. Someone like @Adnan or other academy watchers can confirm.
Promising debut.
Could be an ideal foil for Casemiro with Mainoo coming deep to help progress the ball and also providing cover to allow Casemiro to get himself into the box and be a goal threat as he likes to.
Out of possession the two of them will offer us good protection.
Could be an ideal foil for Casemiro with Mainoo coming deep to help progress the ball and also providing cover to allow Casemiro to get himself into the box and be a goal threat as he likes to.
Out of possession the two of them will offer us good protection.
What a nightmare you’re having. He’s been singled out by everyone who say the game. Feck even Roy Keane was glowing. That was a sensational debut.
I think it is reasonable to get carried away. You can tell without having to watch him for hours, that he has a special level of ability. He's 18 years old playing away from home in the Premier League and not once does he panic or shit himself when under pressure like most of our players. On top of that, he's looking to get on the ball... compare that to McHideaway and it's night and day. He's taking the ball on the half turn and his awareness of what is around him is great. His level of calm and composure is exactly what we need as we have too few players with that ability. After Shaw and Martinez, I am struggling to name more.
We all knew his qualities before the game. Nice to see him perform to the expectations so soon after injury. Be interesting to see if he starts the next game to or if they manage his fitness a bit. I’d prefer him to have amrabat or Casemiro next to him though. Mctominay will leave him unsupported and increase the pressure on him. Let’s see how he does though after a few more games. He’s gonna make mistakes but he needs to in order to learn and grow as a player. He’s a nice option to have though and it’ll be fun to watch him develop.
He's similar to Angel Gomes in the sense that initially in the academy he was playing quite advanced in midfield because he has great flair, technique, vision, dribbling and passing ability. Though like Gomes, he really looks at home in that deep lying playmaker role. Pirlo's pathway to the deep-lying role was quite similar I think. Mainoo does also have a bit of that nonchalant Pogba swagger about him.
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Doesn't seem anything like Pogba to me. Pogba was just an attacker by nature forced to play in midfield because he had raw attributes (strength, long range passing, anything else?). Mainoo is a midfielder by nature.
Pogba would receive the ball, pass it back and stroll around in random direction. He had no awareness of what is goind around him, he had no idea how to progress the ball with simple measures like pass and move to receive a pass. Pogba would rather dribble his way through the midfield what was a high risk high reward strategy, but he was always wasted in this CM position.
Mainoo is very different, closer to FDJ but also reminds me of Caicedo a bit as I often saw him staying in the pivot role, or moving to right side to provide cover/passing angle.
It was great to see. The news of the match will always lead with Garnacho's goal, it's almost a good thing that it somewhat overshadowed Mainoo's brilliance as hopefully the public bar isn't placed too highly for him in the immediacy.
Think he should start Wednesday imo.
You can tell he'll be special as he seems to have so much time on the ball in comparison to everyone else.
Fantastic awareness of what is going on around him before he receives the ball and seems to make the right decision nearly all of the time.
There was one point in the first half where he glided past 1 or 2 players and played a through ball to Garnacho that was almost perfect.
Very exciting future ahead.
Fantastic awareness of what is going on around him before he receives the ball and seems to make the right decision nearly all of the time.
There was one point in the first half where he glided past 1 or 2 players and played a through ball to Garnacho that was almost perfect.
Very exciting future ahead.
Great debut, he's a special talent for sure.
I can only hope that we manage his minutes well - I'd hate for him to get another big injury this season after being out for ~4 months. Nuts to think he's only 18.
I can only hope that we manage his minutes well - I'd hate for him to get another big injury this season after being out for ~4 months. Nuts to think he's only 18.