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We are a shitshowBecause he walked into a shitshow
We are a shitshowBecause he walked into a shitshow
You may very well be right, but I don’t think that his Chelsea stint is the best to make a definitive judgement on that. If we were to bring him in, with Jimmy B setting up a proper structure around him, I would not be disappointed with that choice .Two of the greatest.
I think plucky underdog punching above their weight is his level. Brighton suited him perfectly in the PL, he was a fool to go to Chelsea. I said similar at the time.
It was a similar story at Midgetland making waves in the Europa.
Managing an unwieldy behemoth like Chelsea/United is a totally different task, and I think it’s beyond him. He is Moyes level and United need Elite to turn thinks around.
No doubt....it is a mammoth job and it is not a cheque book fix.We are a shitshow
But here's the thing, Jim's new structure will not be setup instantly. Will take at least a year if not more.You may very well be right, but I don’t think that his Chelsea stint is the best to make a definitive judgement on that. If we were to bring him in, with Jimmy B setting up a proper structure around him, I would not be disappointed with that choice .
Can't see the fans warming to Chris Hughton personally.If you’re going to hire a Brighton manager, surely you hire the one that was better?
Why will it take at least a year? What is going to happen over the space of that time that needs setting up? He's going to hire a bunch of people that are familiar with the job roles they do, they already have connections, and they're already effective. If it takes them at least a year to do anything meaningful they're absolute amateurs and we might as well keep the current shit show.But here's the thing, Jim's new structure will not be setup instantly. Will take at least a year if not more.
Don't know, always felt he was underrated for the jobs he did.Can't see the fans warming to Chris Hughton personally.
That might be the whole point - assuming they decided ETH is not the man (for example he has lost the dressing room), but Potter is also a "temporary" solution before they work out who can join long term.He wont last 2 years and well be looking for yet another new boss.
Make the right changes at upper level to give any new manager coming in a chance.
He's not a bad manager. More a very average one that failed miserably at Chelsea.I think that Potter has been vindicated a little considering how poorly Poch has done and how Brighton are struggling a little bit this season but I'd be wary if I were him about jumping into another job where the club is a mess.
He's not a bad manager but sometimes it's best to be patient as a few bad career moves can unfortunately ruin the rep you've worked so hard to build up.
We need a manger that knows the league, we can't wait 12 months for another manager to get to grips with the level of competition. Potter would provide something immediate but not long term, and that's good enough right now when we're in free fall.It would be a massively unpopular move with United fans. Has echoes of his ill-fated spell at Chelsea already, getting rid of an underperforming manager from overseas who won a trophy in his first season with the club but was starting to struggle. Replacing him with Potter, because he talks a good game and is British. It's not hard to see why Brexit appealed to Ratcliffe if true.
Why would you do that? Potter would improve us in the short term.NO.
Good lord why do we do this to ourselves. Just keep Erik if Potter's the only choice.
He is vastly overrated, I don't think a lot of fans realise how well de zerbi has done with Brighton because too many fans/pundits have rose tinted glasses for the job potter did there.Feck me.
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He has a reputation to watch for? Yikes.
I don't think Potter would be any good at a short term job. He's the type that needs to build something.Why would you do that? Potter would improve us in the short term.
For a start we'd be less open. We might still struggle to finish, as that was always Potters weakness, but we'd be better drilled and play better football. He got Chelsea playing the way he wanted pretty quickly, but ultimately the wheels came off when they signed 50 players. I'm not saying he's our saviour, I'm saying the current guy has to go, Potter has a point to prove, get him in, give him 6 months, if we finish the season worse then sack him and do a proper recruitment.I don't think Potter would be any good at a short term job. He's the type that needs to build something.
It'll just be like Rangnick v2. In hindsight, we should have just given Ole till the end of the season. If we learnt lessons from that, I would give ETH till the end of the season and then look to replace him before the transfer window opens.For a start we'd be less open. We might still struggle to finish, as that was always Potters weakness, but we'd be better drilled and play better football. He got Chelsea playing the way he wanted pretty quickly, but ultimately the wheels came off when they signed 50 players. I'm not saying he's our saviour, I'm saying the current guy has to go, Potter has a point to prove, get him in, give him 6 months, if we finish the season worse then sack him and do a proper recruitment.
EXACTLYI think most people are way too harsh on Potter for his Chelsea stint, especially since they've been worse under Poch.
I'm not sure he has the mentality for a big club, but I'm not writing him off for his Chelsea time where he had the added pressure of trying to integrate hundreds of millions of square pegs into round holes, without a decent goalscorer amongst them. Albeit he would be in a similar situation here
Now I'm talking myself out of it. Just to be clear he's far from my first choice, but don't think he's anything like as bad as some are making out.
Only thing you can say really is Chelsea are in a mess with their approach to things which didn't help.Not buying that. Especially given his spell at Chelsea.
So what makes you think he could handle the United shitshow then?Because he walked into a shitshow
No it won't. How is hiring a bloke that did a fairly good job in the PL already, the same as bringing in a guy that hadn't managed in years and never set foot in England?It'll just be like Rangnick v2. In hindsight, we should have just given Ole till the end of the season. If we learnt lessons from that, I would give ETH till the end of the season and then look to replace him before the transfer window opens.
He doesn't have to, he just has to make it slightly less of a shit show for a while.So what makes you think he could handle the United shitshow then?
Ole had already lost it, what would end of season achieved? Sure Ralf didnt work out but nor was Ole. ETH has already failed, he isnt turning this around. Not least because his signings have made us worse. He has nowhere to go with this teamNo it won't. How is hiring a bloke that did a fairly good job in the PL already, the same as bringing in a guy that hadn't managed in years and never set foot in England?
Just appoint a new manager who desperately wants to succeed and is also under the impression this is an opportunity for them instead of knowing they're being booted out in 5 months. Don't call him an interim so the players are under the impression he's the new boss and then just sack him if it goes to shit again. Absolutely no one can complain about that situation.
Conte is a terrible choice. I would take anyone over him. This lot would down tools within a week after he called them all cnuts.He is vastly overrated, I don't think a lot of fans realise how well de zerbi has done with Brighton because too many fans/pundits have rose tinted glasses for the job potter did there.
He would be worse than moyes but of course if did take over and inevitably flop our fans would of course blame the players again.
How is conte not getting a mention, the guy actually has a pedigree compared to some of the uninspiring managerial links we have had
He did a good job at Brighton yes, but so did Erik at Ajax. I see them as a similar type of manager. Potter struggled with Chelsea as their new owner had no clue what direction to take the club in, over here the shitshow is equally bad. There's nothing about Potter that suggests he can be the band-aid.No it won't. How is hiring a bloke that did a fairly good job in the PL already, the same as bringing in a guy that hadn't managed in years and never set foot in England?
Just appoint a new manager who desperately wants to succeed and is also under the impression this is an opportunity for them instead of knowing they're being booted out in 5 months. Don't call him an interim so the players are under the impression he's the new boss and then just sack him if it goes to shit again. Absolutely no one can complain about that situation.
Explain how this mirrors the current regime.Hiring Potter would just signal that the new regime are simply picking up where the old one left off. Learnt nothing and continue to make the same mistakes. Now I think Potter isn’t solely to blame for how badly his Chelsea stint went as anyone would struggle under the Boehly shitshow but I certainly don’t want us taking the risk on him.