ShinjiNinja26
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A combination of them all.
As I wrote earlier in this thread, I went through all conceded setpiece goals this season. It’s not the same 2-3 players responsible every time, instead basically every player has been at fault for a goal. If we look purely on the headed goals from setpieces, the same player has not been beaten twice over the whole season, a new player every time. That’s why I believe it’s something that can be coached.The players. They are the ones playing.
This is not a case of coaching being terrible and unaware of the obvious problem at hand. In fact they stated it almost weekly throughout the year ...the players are the ones who time and time again missed their assignments by having a lack of concentration, mental lapses, or flat out just got beat often.
no to finger pointing the manager/coaching staff, it’s because of the players ability (or lack of should I say). Same reason we can’t point the blame of certain forwards lack of finishing on anyone else - these types of things rest on the individuals shoulders.
Look at them before they came to United or when they play for their national teams. Its the same players. Why do they play so different when they play for United?By all accounts this coach was extremely highly rated and not just by us.
I think part of the explanation is a little more simple: we don't have enough players that actually want to compete and win the ball and that think on their feet. You can have organisation but the basics are you have to leap, be willing to get hurt and to believe you're actually going to win it otherwise all the planning comes to nothing.
We're not a big threat in either box so it's not just defensive organisation, it shows we are not competing. The coach still has to look at himself of course because it's his area and I'm sure it's pretty embarrassing seeing this wherever most of the blame lies. Ultimately we need results.
Too often it seems to come down to Maguire (and sometimes Varane) win it or we're scrambling around. That's not good enough.
On attacking set pieces (excluding pens and direct free kicks) we are 5th on xG generated, but we haven’t taken any of the chances:One more new coach added to the soft bunch we've already got and it's still the same shit.
Sorry for the bump, but this is still an ongoing issue. How is Eric Ramsey still in a job? Hes been here a few seasons now, and we are still hopeless at set pieces - mainly corners. We concede more goals from our own corners (e.g Forest) than we actually score from them... We would be better off just kicking the corner out for a goal kick and resetting.Man United are the only club yet to score from a set piece in the Premier League this season.
On last night's game transmission it was mentioned that we have had over 90+ corners without scoring from a single one.
We brought a set piece specialist in Eric Ramsey, and yet we have become worse at least offensively.
What's the problem with us ffs? How can we be this poor? Liverpool has scored 10, City 9, Chelsea 7, Arsenal 8. Even God dam Norwich has scored 2.
How has this issue still not been addressed, even after so many years and multiple changes of managers, coaching staff, and players?How on earth is it possible to be so constantly shit on set pieces?
May as well sack everyone then.. we don’t do anything particularly well at all, set pieces are just another in a long list of mindless passages of play reallySorry for the bump, but this is still an ongoing issue. How is Eric Ramsey still in a job? Hes been here a few seasons now, and we are still hopeless at set pieces - mainly corners. We concede more goals from our own corners (e.g Forest) than we actually score from them... We would be better off just kicking the corner out for a goal kick and resetting.
I know we are a 'short' team, but there has to be a deeper issue here. After 2+ years of having a specific coach in this area, I would expect some improvement, but there's none.
I think it's symptomatic of his little we must do on the training ground. Its the one area of the team where even the poorest coach has the most influence over.How has this issue still not been addressed, even after so many years and multiple changes of managers, coaching staff, and players?
And throw ins too. Grinds my gears to no endHow on earth is it possible to be so constantly shit on set pieces?
Our data and analytics capabilities must also be well behind the rest of the league, because preparation for dead ball situations is one area where you'd expect that to have a large impact.I think it's symptomatic of his little we must do on the training ground. Its the one area of the team where even the poorest coach has the most influence over.