He will for the rest of his life.
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Has he been moved into CM for Getafe? Every time I see there line up that’s where he is
RM or RW from what I’ve seen of him.
Ye I think the club have played it smart with a loan move into a well known league to see what fans reactions are towards him and hopefully let the dust settle for him abroad. I reckon if he ever stepped foot onto an English pitch again though the fans will be more brutal over here. If we can get over 50m for him then we should take it. We shouldn’t be rolled over though and accept a low fee. He’s worth so much more
Of course you do, there's countless examples who get to where he's got to on talent alone. He's shown absolutely no mental strength in any capacity, that's exactly why he's in the position he's in.
I apologise unreservedly.
Even if having to undergo the horror of having to move to Spain to be paid huge sums?
Some sort of hero surely?
Quite.Even if having to undergo the horror of having to move to Spain to be paid huge sums?
Some sort of hero surely?
What's money got to do with anything?Even if having to undergo the horror of having to move to Spain to be paid huge sums?
Some sort of hero surely?
He's been abused and condemned as a rapist for what 2 years at least? (I'm not commenting on rightly or wrongly just stating it has happened)
To come back and play at a high level as quickly as he has demonstrates mental strength.
What a shame.
Didn't he release a statement in August taking responsibility for mistakes made in his relationship? As far as publicly addressing the specific allegations, I'd imagine his lawyer would've advised him against doing that.
They play 4-4-2 and Greenwood is like the right winger
Argh. Fair enough
You can in modern football, jadon Sancho for example doesn’t appear to be mentally strong
I guess but I don't think Dortmund is the same as United.
You’re missing the point. The abuse he would get in England will far exceed any abuse he may get in Spain. Him and his family will also face all kinds of pressures from the media and social media. Not pressure he’s facing in Spain. We all read rumours about this couple long before this all broke. Whilst it might seem like the image they are trying to project now is a stable relationship, history tells us it’s anything but. Throw the petrol on that fire (added stress) and watch it go up
My point exactly. The stress in England and at United will greatly exceed anything he faces at Getafe
That would be grand.
But we'd need a tad more transparency, don't you think?
We all heard the audio. Either explain how that wasn't what it sounded like, or admit that it was what it sounded like, but - yes - he has actually learned something and is a better man these days.
My point was that he's already performed at that level at United. Sancho couldn't hack the environment at City so had to go elsewhere. He came back to United and has crumbled. I don't think Greenwood would crumble personally as I think he's probably a bit of a psychopath but that's a different discussion.
As for the Beckham comparisons and "mental strength" - no, that doesn't work.
Beckham was never hated by a single United fan (with the possible exception of extreme weirdos). If anything, the incident made him even more loved by United fans in a "us against the world" way.
(And yes, I know that some weirdos want us to take a Suarez t-shirt style stance here, but it hasn't caught on - and it never will, bringing him back will be controversial, not only in general, but also within the fan base.)
ETA To be clear, I don't think there would be a huge, lasting reaction * if United decided to bring him back. I'm just saying that the Beckham comparison doesn't work (because the basic premise is not the same).
* Greenwood is a media nobody compared to Beckham, that's another difference with regard to the basic premise (but, I suppose, something that works in his favour if we're talking about how "mentally strong" he has to be in the event of him coming back).
Beckham was never hated by a single United fan (with the possible exception of extreme weirdos). If anything, the incident made him even more loved by United fans in a "us against the world" way.
(And yes, I know that some weirdos want us to take a Suarez t-shirt style stance here, but it hasn't caught on - and it never will, bringing him back will be controversial, not only in general, but also within the fan base.)
ETA To be clear, I don't think there would be a huge, lasting reaction * if United decided to bring him back. I'm just saying that the Beckham comparison doesn't work (because the basic premise is not the same).
* Greenwood is a media nobody compared to Beckham, that's another difference with regard to the basic premise (but, I suppose, something that works in his favour if we're talking about how "mentally strong" he has to be in the event of him coming back).
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I'm not defending his actions or the things he appears to have done. I have two daughters myself, and I would have been furious and upset about the whole situation. But as it stands now, he's still playing football, wasn't sentenced, and appears to be living happily (though I don't know for sure) with the same girl he mistreated and behaved poorly towards.
What United did was bury their heads in the sand, hoping that someone else would sort out the problem (read: society). Nothing happened, and now they're just hoping someone else will deal with the problem (read: Getafe and/or the club that eventually buys him) and hoping to cash in on him. Then, they can just breathe out and be relieved that the problem is no longer theirs.
I think they handled the whole situation really poorly. Mason had been with the club his entire life. I assume the parents and even his girlfriend have witnessed his rise. They could have handled things differently. Instead, they just stood by and hoped for things to resolve themselves. I can't see that as a good way of handling things. Pitiful, especially when they let a different player from a different country continue playing when accused of similar things.
Is there a poll on this forum somewhere asking United fans if they prefer bringing Greenwood back or not? Would be interesting to see the splits.
No, it’s already been done twice. I don’t think we need to go there again
Not the ideal system for him to play in, right of a 4-4-2 and he's been given more defensive responsibility but all the play seems to go through him so they've recognized his ability straight away and used it to plug a hole in their team rather than play to his strength but maybe he can add a bit to his game here
I must have missed it then. Do you remember the results and when it was? I recall seeing one in the summer somewhere else that was 50 something percent no, and 40 something yes. Almost 60/40. I think now it’s probably the other way round.
Red card
Just got a red card, not sure what for
Spanish refs are brutal. He got fouled while running, the ref didn't blow. So he lost his temper and yelled at the ref. Straight red.
Dissent
Not very mentally strong
Counting to 4 is a sending off apparently
I reckoned as much but it is a bit ridiculous, no? Not like he went nuts
Yeah seemed harsh
Let’s assume he’s a psychopath.. then nothing phases him. I know people want to say the right thing. But whether we like it or not often the worse of people are the least prone to doubt, anxiety, and if not highly motivated for their goals they have an ability to just take things in their stride and be unfazed.
I’m not saying this is Greenwood but just making a point. I no longer have an opinion on whether he did or didn’t do what he was accused of or the extent to which he did it and the extent to which the initial judgement by the public was right or wrong or underestimated or overestimated what we believed he did.
Hyperbole much?
Feck it, I'll bite...maybe the Ref doesn't like rapey little narcissists.
The thought crossed my mind, whether it’s personal