Jose Mourinho | Sacked by Roma

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I read somewhere that Jose has made £83m just from getting sacked! That's four years salary for Guardiola. I can't see Sir Jim thinking about hiring Jose and certainly not if he stayed at The Lowry or wherever it was.
 

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I am so in love with the fact that spurs is the only club Jose didn't win a trophy at, being no fault of his own too. Levy is such a bellend. Jose doesn't lose finals. Hardcore Spursiness.
Yeah well. He won a newly created third-tier cup to mark his descent to third-tier managership.
 

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I don't see anything wrong with Roma sacking him despite being only 5 points away from the CL spots. The team is not looking good and they're trying to get a reaction now, instead of waiting until they're 15 points away and there's no remedy like some spineless clubs do.
 

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I am so in love with the fact that spurs is the only club Jose didn't win a trophy at, being no fault of his own too. Levy is such a bellend. Jose doesn't lose finals. Hardcore Spursiness.
He lost the last final he played and even waited in the parking lot to insult the referee
 

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I think Jose is done with club football. I would love to see Jose add to his legend by managing a national side where his tactics and approach would probably flourish.
 

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Has he done Scotland yet? No? Then Celtic or Rangers are still daft enough. If not, Wrexham.
 

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I think Jose is done with club football. I would love to see Jose add to his legend by managing a national side where his tactics and approach would probably flourish.
Negative tactics don't necessarily transpire to successful international management. Argentina and Italy have won most recent major tournaments playing front-foot football against much more negative sides which were also stronger quality-wise.
 

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Negative tactics don't necessarily transpire to successful international management. Argentina and Italy have won most recent major tournaments playing front-foot football against much more negative sides which were also stronger quality-wise.
Until someone wins it with defensive football
 

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Who's up for the next grift? Some club in Saudi or Qatar? Or maybe sime gullible club in the US? or maybe Portugal?
 

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Until someone wins it with defensive football after it fails 10 times, then we say "Yay!! defensive football wins NT tournaments"
Let's see here:
00 France (attacking football)
02 Brazil (A)
04 Greece (defensive football)
06 Italy (D)
08 Spain (A)
10 Spain (D)
12 Spain (A)
14 Germany A
16 Portugal D
18 France D
20 Italy A
22 Argentina A

Looks like it shifts attack/defence every 2 tournaments, except when the same team won 3 in a row. Interesting :smirk:
 

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I read somewhere that Jose has made £83m just from getting sacked! That's four years salary for Guardiola. I can't see Sir Jim thinking about hiring Jose and certainly not if he stayed at The Lowry or wherever it was.
Hear ya point mate, but I bet Pep gets 83mln a year from those owners.... off books of corse....
 

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Really hope he doesn’t get the Newcastle job. I’ve seen Newcastle play a few times, even when they lose their players have a team spirit and work ethic that I can see Jose killing. I know he’s know for teams that work hard and are very loyal to him, but this Newcastle team has so many skilful players who put a shift in but are still allowed to express themselves. He’ll basically do to them what he did to Shaw.
Good for us then?
 

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His record from 2001-2012 was insane, and was easily enough for him to be considered as one of the greatest managers ever. I did think that his gradually declined as a manager (though his standard for nearly 12 years before that was ridiculous) from his third and finals season at Real onwards, though since then still won trophies during his second spell at Chelsea, Man Utd and Roma.

I've said a few times before, that is work at Leiria with barely a cent to spend, leading them to their highest ever league finish at the time in 2001, and then 3rd place midway through 2001/2002 (ahead of Porto who came calling for him plus Benfica), shouldn't be overlooked. And even before we get to Porto's Champions League winning campaign, clearly their 2002/2003 season with 3 trophies including a UEFA Cup win, was stellar. Porto's value of player sales during Mourinho's time in charge, exceeded their value of purchase players (I'm not using the word profit as a I assumed that a decent chunk of transfer fees on player sales went to third parties). And at the time of the 2003 UEFA Cup final, his Porto team was built on half the budget compared to Martin O'Neil's Celtic team.

The fact that most Roma fans seem to adore him, and the Stadio Olimpico was routinely sold out (which very rarely happened before he took charge) was notable.

Clearly over the last few years though, it has become less and less worth putting up with all the controversy that comes with him. And as other people have said, his management man skills have decline, and he hasn't been able (or willing) to adapt to the extend that Fergie and Ancelotti did.
 

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His record from 2001-2012 was insane, and was easily enough for him to be considered as one of the greatest managers ever. I did think that his gradually declined as a manager (though his standard for nearly 12 years before that was ridiculous) from his third and finals season at Real onwards, though since then still won trophies during his second spell at Chelsea, Man Utd and Roma.

I've said a few times before, that is work at Leiria with barely a cent to spend, leading them to their highest ever league finish at the time in 2001, and then 3rd place midway through 2001/2002 (ahead of Porto who came calling for him plus Benfica), shouldn't be overlooked. And even before we get to Porto's Champions League winning campaign, clearly their 2002/2003 season with 3 trophies including a UEFA Cup win, was stellar. Porto's value of player sales during Mourinho's time in charge, exceeded their value of purchase players (I'm not using the word profit as a I assumed that a decent chunk of transfer fees on player sales went to third parties). And at the time of the 2003 UEFA Cup final, his Porto team was built on half the budget compared to Martin O'Neil's Celtic team.

The fact that most Roma fans seem to adore him, and the Stadio Olimpico was routinely sold out (which very rarely happened before he took charge) was notable.

Clearly over the last few years though, it has become less and less worth putting up with all the controversy that comes with him. And as other people have said, his management man skills have decline, and he hasn't been able (or willing) to adapt to the extend that Fergie and Ancelotti did.
Yeah, think this gets overlooked often as we'll always talk about his achievements with Porto, Chelsea, Inter etc. His Leiria episode was a big success as well. Wonder how would his Benfica stint had gone if the board/president decided to keep him back in December 2000. His last game before getting sacked was a 3-0 win over rivals Sporting. We'll never know but perhaps he'd have led Benfica to big things like he did with Porto.
 

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Yeah, think this gets overlooked often as we'll always talk about his achievements with Porto, Chelsea, Inter etc. His Leiria episode was a big success as well. Wonder how would his Benfica stint had gone if the board/president decided to keep him back in December 2000. His last game before getting sacked was a 3-0 win over rivals Sporting. We'll never know but perhaps he'd have led Benfica to big things like he did with Porto.
I didn’t even know that he’d managed Benfica, that’s interesting.
 

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Negative tactics don't necessarily transpire to successful international management. Argentina and Italy have won most recent major tournaments playing front-foot football against much more negative sides which were also stronger quality-wise.
You are right what you say, but Morocco got a lot of plaudits at last world cup playing a counter attacking game.
 

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I am so in love with the fact that spurs is the only club Jose didn't win a trophy at, being no fault of his own too. Levy is such a bellend. Jose doesn't lose finals. Hardcore Spursiness.
Remember their form being pretty dire before they sacked him. Doubt he wins that final and the players were absolutely done with him.
 

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Negative tactics don't necessarily transpire to successful international management. Argentina and Italy have won most recent major tournaments playing front-foot football against much more negative sides which were also stronger quality-wise.
Negative tactics usually work better in knockout games. Hence the reason he’s won a few European trophy’s.
 

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Good for us then?
I still fail to acknowledge we’re crap. So while you’re right. I still have it my head that the better our rivals the better we will become. Maybe because of how I remember us reacting to Wenger’s Arsenal and then Chelsea during the Roman era
 

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I still fail to acknowledge we’re crap. So while you’re right. I still have it my head that the better our rivals the better we will become. Maybe because of how I remember us reacting to Wenger’s Arsenal and then Chelsea during the Roman era
You remember a very different football club.
 

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Should take time out, see if the Portugal job comes up post-Euros and then take that. Retire after.
 

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Should take time out, see if the Portugal job comes up post-Euros and then take that. Retire after.
Surely the absolute last thing this exciting Portugal side want is Mourinho taking over?
 

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Surely the absolute last thing this exciting Portugal side want is Mourinho taking over?
Probably but I think his time is up at club level but his methods might just be able to be still good enough to win an international tournament.
 

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He has an excuse at almost every club.
Nearly all managers change clubs every few years and all spells will have negatives if you look for them yet only Mourinho is being looked at with such vitriol.

Ramos doesnt sky a penalty vs Bayern and doesnt score a last gasp leveler vs Atletico and we are looking at a very different Real Madrid recent history. It is very fine margins.
 

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Already linked to Al-Shabab. Though apparently he's offered himself to ADL for the Napoli job next season :lol:
 

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The shift to pressing and possessional football has completely left him behind. His teams used to be energetic and would often have the strongest first XI in that league, but since most teams press nowadays what does that leave him? Good tactical nous but often poor footballing style, above average in the transfer market but not great, and worst of all an annoying personality that alienates and burns bridges everywhere he goes.

I can't see any top club going anywhere near him anymore so he's likely to take jobs in the oil leagues now or if he's lucky get drafted into a club in crisis Allardyce style.
 

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In fairness he was acting that way because players like Pogba and Martial's sales were being blocked by the club. Would you honestly blame him looking back?
Yes. Just because your bosses are being stupid doesn't mean you should turn into a toxic cloud

If you have genuine issues with their attitude and think it's negatively affecting the team, talk about to your bosses and have them excluded from the team. If your bosses decide they don't care, either quit, or shut up and do your job