Israel-Palestine | Genocide in Gaza

The Palestinians who were already living there ? :confused:
He's telling you that there never was a Palestine to speak of.

His posts are as subtle as a brick through the window.
 
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How can Palestinians live when they're surrounded by terrorists everywhere?
 
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No, creating a security zone is. Has been clear two months ago.
And by doing so, downsizing an area that already was overpopulated. Let's admit that it was the goal, how is that gonna work?

Come on, Amir, you can't possibly believe that it will solve anything or lead to anything but more violence in the future. It's horseshit and you know it.
 
If you don't realise that it is complex then you will never understand the conflict meaningfully.

You second paragraph in no way makes the situation simple, and in any case Israel and the Palestininans are far from the only players involved.
It's honestly not.
 
And by doing so, downsizing an area that already was overpopulated. Let's admit that it was the goal, how is that gonna work?

Come on, Amir, you can't possibly believe that it will solve anything or lead to anything but more violence in the future. It's horseshit and you know it.

More violence is inevitable either way.

What this may do is bring some comfort to the citizens of the Israeli towns who were attacked across the border and refuse to come back, fearing for their safety.
 
We wouldn't have needed it had Hamas not attacked and butchered citizens. It's their problem.

Hamas were just creating a security zone after Israeli forces massacred hundreds of unarmed Palestinians near the border during a protest.
 
Ami is lost, I can only imagine how insane the propaganda must be in israel right now.
 
If they surrended their weapons and bring Hamas down, sure.

Well if you're imposing conditions on them rebuilding on the land then guess what you're controlling it, stealing it, occupying it.

Also given what's being done to them in Gaza and the west bank why the hell would they give up their weapons? It's not very logical and it's also counter to Israels own rationale of revenge.
 
Ami is lost, I can only imagine how insane the propaganda must be in israel right now.

It's quite strong.

And I work for the one critical media outlet (Haaretz) against the propaganda and the war.

It's a shame that people here can't accept the slight possibility that reading Twitter doesn't mean they know everything about the situation here.
 
It's a shame that people here can't accept the slight possibility that reading Twitter doesn't mean they know everything about the situation here.

We should listen to you, instead. The wise sage who said that Israel couldn't have bombed a hospital because it wasn't in its interests to do so.
 
Do you think borders would stop Hamas from killing Israelis?
I'm saying borders provide better security. Firstly from a logistic perspective, you're not scattering checkpoints everywhere, and can militarise the feck out of them for all you want. And also from a de-radicalisation stance, Palestinians would have less to feel incensed about if they had their own national autonomy and a nation to call their own. Subjugation clearly doesn't work from a security perspective, so the choice is either go full on genocide/ethnic cleansing or take a chance at peace by giving them a nation and then police your borders as heavy-handedly as you want. Personally I find the latter option far more palatable and humanitarian.

This whole proposed 'security buffer zone' that only clams the Palestinians into further dense pockets isn't going to make Israel any safer, nor is this bloody onslaught which has only created thousands of future Hamas members.
 
It's quite strong.

And I work for the one critical media outlet (Haaretz) against the propaganda and the war.

It's a shame that people here can't accept the slight possibility that reading Twitter doesn't mean they know everything about the situation here.

That's how propaganda works, you don't notice you're being a victim of it. Going by your posts here, I have bad news for you mate...
 
That's how propaganda works, you don't notice you're being a victim of it. Going by your posts here, I have bad news for you mate...

Going by the posts here, I have bad news for you and other posters, mate.

Plenty of the criticism against Israel is correct. But some is just based on people misunderstanding things - or looking for things to reinforce what they already think.
 
This whole proposed 'security buffer zone' that only clams the Palestinians into further dense pockets isn't going to make Israel any safer, nor is this bloody onslaught which has only created thousands of future Hamas members.

I agree the buffer zone is not much of a solution. But it's the best we have right now short term as we try to allow the citizens in the south of Israel return to their homes with some peace of mind.