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Well they were better than them when they had those players tbf.He's now claiming Spurs when they get their players back can be better than Arsenal and Pool.
Well they were better than them when they had those players tbf.He's now claiming Spurs when they get their players back can be better than Arsenal and Pool.
Because Gary Neville often doesn't know what he is talking about, but has enough self belief to repeat whatever uninformed nonsense he likes without fact checking.Why is he constantly saying that we don't have sporting director?! We do.
What did he say that you found wrong yesterday?He was talking some right waffle on commentary. He gives Spurs an easy ride, they can do no wrong whereas everything we do is a disgrace.
It's actually what he doesn't say. He rambles on about their injury issues and doesn't even mention our even worse issues. If you hand this injury crisis to any manager in world football for the length it has been given to Ten Hag, lets see how they do. He's overly negative about united and overly positive about Spurs. You would think they won 4-0 last night the way he goes on.What did he say that you found wrong yesterday?
I do think our injury record definitely goes under reported and is almost mentioned as an afterthought, however credit has to be given to Ange for also going through a similar injury record whilst still managing to get his team to implement his tactics and style of play. Yeah they haven't won anything but in the context of both teams having injuries, one manager being there half a season the other 2 seasons, one being a bigger club, Ange is performing way above Ten Hag on pretty much every aspect. So I think he deserves to be recognised for that. At the end of the day the reality is if on that game you ask me who would you want United to play like, Ange's way or Ten Hag's, its hard for me to say Ten Hag right now.It's actually what he doesn't say. He rambles on about their injury issues and doesn't even mention our even worse issues. If you hand this injury crisis to any manager in world football for the length it has been given to Ten Hag, lets see how they do. He's overly negative about united and overly positive about Spurs. You would think they won 4-0 last night the way he goes on.
It's annoying to listen too, I agree, but in fairness I think it's coming from a position as a fan. It's like the matchday thread in here, but on Sky (and censored a bit of course). If we were doing well it would probably be better, but its just the case that we've been (relative to his time here) pants since he's been on Sky. It does feel Neville forces it to be overly positive about our opposition, and especially the bigger teams, where you can imagine he'd love nothing more than to be making digs but he can't because of how we are.It's actually what he doesn't say. He rambles on about their injury issues and doesn't even mention our even worse issues. If you hand this injury crisis to any manager in world football for the length it has been given to Ten Hag, lets see how they do. He's overly negative about united and overly positive about Spurs. You would think they won 4-0 last night the way he goes on.
It's apples and oranges in my opinion. Ange has came into a club that is structured in the correct way. Like any club, they can have the wrong manager in place, but Tottenham have a good structure and good ownership in place. On top of that, the expectations and pressures for Tottenham are far less than they are at United. In addition to this, Tottenham's injuries have only recently become extensive, we have been dealing with the crisis all season which makes it even more difficult to get going.I do think our injury record definitely goes under reported and is almost mentioned as an afterthought, however credit has to be given to Ange for also going through a similar injury record whilst still managing to get his team to implement his tactics and style of play. Yeah they haven't won anything but in the context of both teams having injuries, one manager being there half a season the other 2 seasons, one being a bigger club, Ange is performing way above Ten Hag on pretty much every aspect. So I think he deserves to be recognised for that. At the end of the day the reality is if on that game you ask me who would you want United to play like, Ange's way or Ten Hag's, its hard for me to say Ten Hag right now.
Good question, I think Ange would definitely be performing worse than he currently is at Spurs. However, I think Ange is performing above what is expected from him at spurs even given the structure and I think Ten Hag is currently performing worse than expected given the structure.It's apples and oranges in my opinion. Ange has came into a club that is structured in the correct way. Like any club, they can have the wrong manager in place, but Tottenham have a good structure and good ownership in place. On top of that, the expectations and pressures for Tottenham are far less than they are at United. In addition to this, Tottenham's injuries have only recently become extensive, we have been dealing with the crisis all season which makes it even more difficult to get going.
Question for you, do you think that if you swapped Ten Hag and Ange around we would be playing much better?
pass the ether....He's now claiming Spurs when they get their players back can be better than Arsenal and Pool.
That was absolutely not the narrative over recent years though. Spurs fans wanted Levy out and pundits were calling for him to step down too iirc. Spurs recruitment, managerial appointments etc was all being criticised extensively. When Djed Spence came in people were saying Spurs are making decisions without Contes say so. Like come on, why are this forum constantly recreating situations and history to absolve Ten Hag of his disgraceful management this season.It's apples and oranges in my opinion. Ange has came into a club that is structured in the correct way. Like any club, they can have the wrong manager in place, but Tottenham have a good structure and good ownership in place. On top of that, the expectations and pressures for Tottenham are far less than they are at United. In addition to this, Tottenham's injuries have only recently become extensive, we have been dealing with the crisis all season which makes it even more difficult to get going.
Question for you, do you think that if you swapped Ten Hag and Ange around we would be playing much better?
The running of Spurs over the last decade vs United is night and day, I don't think anyone would dispute that.That was absolutely not the narrative over recent years though. Spurs fans wanted Levy out and pundits were calling for him to step down too iirc. Spurs recruitment, managerial appointments etc was all being criticised extensively. When Djed Spence came in people were saying Spurs are making decisions without Contes say so. Like come on, why are this forum constantly recreating situations and history to absolve Ten Hag of his disgraceful management this season.
Of course you’d never do such a thing…Unless he criticised BrunoAt the end of the day Gary Neville is a United fan. And his commentary might be unbearably negative but it’s not even close to being as unbearably negative as most of the United fans on this website. Particularly in a match day thread. So it’s a bit rich to see his negativity being criticised by redcafe members.
I interpreted it as a "hurry the feck up" gesture to the ref. Either way, interpreting it as him demanding to be subbed is mental.
You get the impression that pundits like Neville invested so much emotional energy defending Ole that he's been desperate to find any way possible to criticise the club/team/manager/players since Ole got the sack. That persistent negativity has been a real feature of his commentary this season and it's tedious as feck. You could put intermittent negativity down to normal fan frustrations in previous seasons but it feels much more like an agenda now.
Purely because Tottenham had relative success in the first part of that decade. And by success I don’t mean winning trophies but for them top 4 , CL final, great football etc.The running of Spurs over the last decade vs United is night and day, I don't think anyone would dispute that.
I wish he would feck off out of my club. I've been saying this for years now. There will be huge calls for him to leave at the Utd match on Thursday. The atmosphere around the club is toxic and almost every supporter hates him now.
Neville was key to the RHS for years. He wasn't first choice for Manchester United for over a decade by accident.He is Fergie era McTominay. Survive at all cost
Fergie is probably still mad that because of him we didn't get "Tractor".
Beckham and Zanetti would terrorize that right side for years.
Gary wasn't the best in the world, but comparing him to McTominay? Jesus Christ. He was the best rightback in England for many years.He is Fergie era McTominay. Survive at all cost
Fergie is probably still mad that because of him we didn't get "Tractor".
Beckham and Zanetti would terrorize that right side for years.
What a dreadful take, Neville was a fantastic right back and the best in the league for a long time.He is Fergie era McTominay. Survive at all cost
Fergie is probably still mad that because of him we didn't get "Tractor".
Beckham and Zanetti would terrorize that right side for years.
He is Fergie era McTominay. Survive at all cost
Fergie is probably still mad that because of him we didn't get "Tractor".
Beckham and Zanetti would terrorize that right side for years.
That's some crazy revisionism on Gary. He was a great player.Gary wasn't the best in the world, but comparing him to McTominay? Jesus Christ. He was the best rightback in England for many years.
Assume you're a younster.He is Fergie era McTominay. Survive at all cost
Fergie is probably still mad that because of him we didn't get "Tractor".
Beckham and Zanetti would terrorize that right side for years.
I thought he came across pretty well on it.Watched him on Dragons Den. Top guy.
This is absolutely mental.He is Fergie era McTominay. Survive at all cost
Fergie is probably still mad that because of him we didn't get "Tractor".
Beckham and Zanetti would terrorize that right side for years.
No way.He is Fergie era McTominay. Survive at all cost
Fergie is probably still mad that because of him we didn't get "Tractor".
Beckham and Zanetti would terrorize that right side for years.
He is Fergie era McTominay. Survive at all cost
Fergie is probably still mad that because of him we didn't get "Tractor".
Beckham and Zanetti would terrorize that right side for years.
This take should’ve remained in your head. Just plain dumb.He is Fergie era McTominay. Survive at all cost
Fergie is probably still mad that because of him we didn't get "Tractor".
Beckham and Zanetti would terrorize that right side for years.
+1There's a weird revisionism on his career, probably because he jokes about being terrible a lot. But he was very good, you don't play for that united side that many times if you're not a top player.
He is Fergie era McTominay. Survive at all cost
Fergie is probably still mad that because of him we didn't get "Tractor".
Beckham and Zanetti would terrorize that right side for years.
Ever wondered why you're still a newbie?He is Fergie era McTominay. Survive at all cost
Fergie is probably still mad that because of him we didn't get "Tractor".
Beckham and Zanetti would terrorize that right side for years.
Of course he wouldn’t. But what he’s saying makes sense, and the tone with which he’s saying it makes sense.https://x.com/bbcsport/status/1752295006511984887?s=46
It’s interesting how measured he is in his opinion of Rashford’s antics. I doubt he’d give as much grace to players of a different nationality.
If this was Garnacho he'd go nutshttps://x.com/bbcsport/status/1752295006511984887?s=46
It’s interesting how measured he is in his opinion of Rashford’s antics. I doubt he’d give as much grace to players of a different nationality.