The lack of success of the German NT lately would testify to this. I think there are some German talents that would improve Bayern though like Wirtz or Schlotterbeck.
Thomas Tuchel | Gone to & from Bayern (In Summer)
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Plenty of time for them to get Alonso’s deal on the table and an attractive proposition for him to take over a giant on a low ebb.
Unlucky Pool, maybe go for Eddie Howe if Tuchel goes to Newcastle? Or perhaps Potter?
Unlucky Pool, maybe go for Eddie Howe if Tuchel goes to Newcastle? Or perhaps Potter?
Was foreseeable but I think they'll regret burning Tuchel so quickly next season. They won't find a better coach than him and it will become increasingly more difficult to find a scapegoat
I'd look elsewhere.
Just curious, but why? He's failed in his last two jobs (arguably three), he seems to antagonize players and club management, and his playstyle doesn't really suit us.
You say that but he's fallen out with every single board he's ever worked with. He might be a good coach but he creates a toxic environment, which doesn't work for anyone.
Many believe or believed that this guy was up there with Pep and Klopp. Was always complete nonsense.
Tuchel has you literally believe that your squad is better player for player than ours. Nobody needs to know more than that to see that he needs to go.
I think he would do better than Ten Hag at United, but he has not done enough to deserve the job.
Who's the German equivalent of Big Sam who can come in to do a job?
Yes but I think Bayern took care of it themselves this team or at least contributed to it. Seems like a toxic environment right now. Last season, they fired a coach who was still in all three competitions because he was one point behind in the table. This season, they fire a coach who has collected the most points after 22 games in the last 8 years or so after ignoring all his feedback on the squad completely.
I don't see which available coach could live up to those expectations.
If Alonso has the choice, he'd be an absolute fool to choose this mess over Liverpool.
Was thinking the same thing. I would be quite happy with that.
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Leverkusen are putting together a historic season. This Bayern team with their current points trajectory would probably be enough to win the title in most other seasons, but Tuchel or not, this Leverkusen team, if they keep this level up, would probably win the title in any of the last 10 seasons, certainly since Pep left.
Tuchel is the also the first coach to achieve 50 points after 22 match days since Guardiola. And your squad looks bad because it is nowhere near the standard you're used to, not because of Tuchel.
Always seems to leave clubs on a bitter note...I really rated him around the time of the Chelsea CL win but the toxicity would make me very wary.
Bayern seem like they don't know what they want to be, only that they aren't it.
Good in cup competitions, but doesn’t seem to have the personality or style that seems to translate nearly as well in a league setting more often than not. I really rated him at one point, but he just underwhelms. I wouldn’t be worried if he went to Liverpool, which says it all.
Like it or not, if INEOS decide to move on from Ten Hag this summer (which I think is very possible if they finish outside the CL places and are trophyless) I think Tuchel will be one of the favourites for the job.
Nice of Bayern to give him a holiday on full pay.
Plenty of free time for him to chase skirt. The lucky bugger.
Plenty of free time for him to chase skirt. The lucky bugger.
Wonder where the fraud goes now.
It's based on hearsay, something about his ability to combat Pep's football. His personality is the biggest drawback indeed, soft skills matter. I'm not willing to fire EtH to get him though.
Another club that will be looking for a manager. Hopefully, we are working behind the scenes, even without Ashworth. I just hope we don't end up with Potter. 
I know confidence is high right now, but you must be, at least, a little concerned about why they are announcing this now, given Alonso’s links to the club.
I can’t help but feel you might be in for a nasty surprise.
Not gonna lie, it's pre lunch and I cracked a beer open once reading the news.
I don't like it
I think Alonso would be foolish to join Bayern now.
He should wait until 2025 at least(maybe even 2026) to decide what he wants to do going forward in his career.
It's not about confidence. I was very skeptical if we can retain him because of a possible Real move in 2024 up until Ancelotti's contract extension. I believe that there is already a gentlemen's agreement in place which is why I wasn't nervous about Liverpool either. Rolfes was also very clear on him staying:
So far, Rolfes has been very transparent in his communication for us. I'm pretty sure Alonso is off to Madrid in 2025 or 2026. I would rule out that he moves in 2024. And Bayern and Liverpool need coaches now.
If it came down to Tuchel or Potter, who would you prefer?
If he is ambitious and driven, I don’t see why he would wait if they come calling.
Despite the excitement I this thread, Leverkusen don’t have better players that Bayern Munich. If he wants to see what his system is capable of when having the best players in the league every week, then it’s the next logical step.
I'd lean towards Potter, Tuchel seems like another Mourinho.
I don't see it honestly. He is realistically a 1 season manager at this point and then things fall apart in the 2nd season. We might as well keep ETH at that point as he's already completed that disaster cycle.
If Ten Hag goes (and he really should), I can see them going for a young up n coming manager that has a good style of play. That is the smart, long term decision.
Neither but if those are the only two choices available, I will reluctantly go with Tuchel.
Things change so quickly in football though. If the call is made today and he is given favorable conditions, I don’t see why he would feel obliged to keep a gentleman’s agreement for 2026. Anything could happen before then.
This would be a chance to walk into an elite club he has ties to, now. I think he would take it.
Tuchel to United
ETH to Bayern
Howe to Pool
ETH to Bayern
Howe to Pool
I am very surprised with his side's playing style. At dortmund and PSG he used to be known for his attractive play style and explansive football. Since moving to chelsea he has become way too pragmatic. He is definitely a good coach but not sure why he changed his management style.
He already had the chance to walk into an elite club in 2024 and decided not to take it. And that club was not any elite club, it was Real Madrid, the most important club in his CV. What could tempt him enough to sign for Bayern that didn't tempt him enough when Madrid came calling?
I mean, stranger things have happened so nothing is impossible but no matter from which perspective you look at it, it just doesn't make sense.
Odd to come to the conclusion he isn't the right manager but then you keep him for the rest of the season. 
Maybe to save a few million in getting rid of him now, but the dressing room and training ground will become very fractured if results turn worse.
Maybe to save a few million in getting rid of him now, but the dressing room and training ground will become very fractured if results turn worse.
Keeping him until the end of the season seems like an absolute cluster feck of a decision.