calodo2003
Flaming Full Member
I am all over the place today.Yeah, I know.... hence why I said Gov Mansion and not the White House
I am all over the place today.Yeah, I know.... hence why I said Gov Mansion and not the White House
I had a long reply for the "if you don't like it leave" post. I just said feck it, what's the point. A lot of faux intellectuals when it comes to US politics.Wow. The ignorance of how politics & governance works by some is astonishing.
Imagine if you rocked up in the Israel/Palestine thread and dropped that viewpoint. I don't think that particular poster would be nodding along. People should not have to leave their home to find safety.I had a long reply for the "if you don't like it leave" post. I just said feck it, what's the point. A lot of faux intellectuals when it comes to US politics.
The two statements aren't remotely similar, so having different reactions to them would make sense. Especially since what was said about the US was that the poster themselves would leave, not that everyone should leave.Imagine if you rocked up in the Israel/Palestine thread and dropped that viewpoint. I don't think that particular poster would be nodding along. People should not have to leave their home to find safety.
Tweet
— Twitter API (@user) date
He’s going to get 75-80% despite all the efforts to make people vote Uncommitted. That’s not bad.Tweet
— Twitter API (@user) date
A good bunch will vote dem in November, a good bunch of Haley supporters will supposedly not vote for Trump under any circumstances.Just heard on CNN that ”Uncomitted” could hit 100.000 or more, this is a state that Hillary lost by 10.000 votes…
Vote supression favours trump IMOA good bunch will vote dem in November, a good bunch of Haley supporters will supposedly not vote for Trump under any circumstances.
All in all, these are two weak candidates, hopefully Biden will limp across the finish line in November.
I feel like time is working in Biden’s favour. Eventually the ordinary American is bound to start feeling the effect of a healthy economy, and the Russian aggression may give some swing (or even GOP leaning) voters pause before allowing chaos to enter the White House in such a situation. I’m feeling slightly optimistic but it may just be wishful thinking.A good bunch will vote dem in November, a good bunch of Haley supporters will supposedly not vote for Trump under any circumstances.
All in all, these are two weak candidates, hopefully Biden will limp across the finish line in November.
Economics never mattered less in this culture war time. His senility and how they will spin it will be brutal. The more voters they will allienate to not vote, the worse as trump has the biggest hardcore cultI feel like time is working in Biden’s favour. Eventually the ordinary American is bound to start feeling the effect of a healthy economy, and the Russian aggression may give some swing (or even GOP leaning) voters pause before allowing chaos to enter the White House in such a situation. I’m feeling slightly optimistic but it may just be wishful thinking.
That’s not true, economy is one of the most important issues to the electorate, and has been one of the main complaints about BidenEconomics never mattered less in this culture war time. His senility and how they will spin it will be brutal. The more voters they will allienate to not vote, the worse as trump has the biggest hardcore cult
Then crawling on broken glass would be pointless, because your vote for the presidency is literally pointless.I could not care less about funding campaigns and winning elections just for the sake of it. Elections have consequences, that’s why I usually care about them.
And, with Trump, democracy is at stake. No one needs to convince me of that. I have eyes and ears, and I have seen enough.
See, with Romney and McCain I had disagreements on policies. With Trump, it’s something at a totally different level. I wouldn’t crawl on broken glass to vote against Romney, but I would crawl on broken glass to vote this November, and I live in a very blue state.
Yeah, he has consistently underperformed his polls so far. Nate Cohn had a theory the other day that it may be because anti-Trump voters are highly incentivized to turn out, more so than less passionate Trump voters. Hopefully that’s true as that would bode well for Biden.This may sound a bit weird, but is less than 70% not quite bad for Trump? I might remember this wrong, but I thought he was supposed to get around 80% according to the polls.
It would only bode well for Biden, if those anti-Trump voters would then not show up in November or vote for Biden instead. You could see a situation where a lot of these Haley voters eventually decide to vote Trump anyway, simply because he is the Republican candidate.Yeah, he has consistently underperformed his polls so far. Nate Cohn had a theory the other day that it may be because anti-Trump voters are highly incentivized to turn out, more so than less passionate Trump voters. Hopefully that’s true as that would bode well for Biden.
What message is it really? The same message was anticipated in NH, that was a fizzle. It's microconcentrated.I doubt the old dope will get the message from the Uncommitted campaign, and if he does he is not likely to change cause.
To some, it is a reflection of no weakness.This may sound a bit weird, but is less than 70% not quite bad for Trump? I might remember this wrong, but I thought he was supposed to get around 80% according to the polls.
Well, the message is deep dissaticfaction with Biden's handling of the Gaza situation, of course. The number of people that are voting uncommited is creeping up towards Biden's winning margin of 154k votes in the 2020 general election.What message is it really? The same message was anticipated in NH, that was a fizzle. It's microconcentrated.
Sure, 'uncommitted' is having its day in the sun, that's because it is the Michigan primary. 'Uncommitted' is a flat out non-entity outside the Michigan state bordera.
A lot of the Haley voters will vote for Trump, obviously, but it bodes well for Biden regardless if anti-Trump voters are more incentivized to turn out. It also shows that the polling institutes seem to have corrected, or even overcorrected, for the silent/shy Trump voter factor, which is also good news for Biden.It would only bode well for Biden, if those anti-Trump voters would then not show up in November or vote for Biden instead. You could see a situation where a lot of these Haley voters eventually decide to vote Trump anyway, simply because he is the Republican candidate.
I don't really think comparing the rejections of hamas to those of the us/israel camp is really the gotcha moment you think it is.Also note that Hamas have rejected the proposed cease fire. I look forward to the uncommitted teams comments.
Wow. The ignorance of how politics & governance works by some is astonishing.
Indeed. Imagine believing you vote for a terrible guy and then you can just change his mind by campaigning or protesting.your best option is surely to vote for him but then lobby, campaign and protest against the policies you don't like and/or for the things you do want that aren't being done
It won't matter in the end since the fighting will probably be long over by November, which will reduce the temperature among the small amount US voters who actually care about this issue. Further, it won't matter much in the long run since both Biden and Trump are very pro-Israel, and one of the two is going to be the next President.Tweet
— Twitter API (@user) date
100k… He was only 90k off.
For better for worse- Anyone who thinks someone has a shot at the WH while alienating Israel is lying to themselves. The far right neo nazi contingent literally hates Jews and still embraces Trump and his Jewish relatives while he was hugging it out with Netanyahu, so that's probably not a wagon you wanna pin your hopes on either.It won't matter in the end since the fighting will probably be long over by November, which will reduce the temperature among the small amount US voters who actually care about this issue. Further, it won't matter much in the long run since both Biden and Trump are very pro-Israel, and one of the two is going to be the next President.
Haley will almost certainly fall in line, but i happen to think a good portion of her voters won't vote for Trump anyway.I can’t help but feel that what Haley decides to do when she drops out could decide the race. As in, if she endorces Trump, Trump wins. Not only because it’ll allow her voters to hold their nose and vote for him in good conscience, but also the undecided who will see a a Republican Party in unison.
100%For better for worse- Anyone who thinks someone has a shot at the WH while alienating Israel is lying to themselves. The far right neo nazi contingent literally hates Jews and still embraces Trump and his Jewish relatives while he was hugging it out with Netanyahu, so that's probably not a wagon you wanna pin your hopes on either.
She has literally signed a pledge to support Trump if he is the nominee, and raised her hand at the first GOP debate to show she would support him even if he was convicted.I can’t help but feel that what Haley decides to do when she drops out could decide the race. As in, if she endorces Trump, Trump wins. Not only because it’ll allow her voters to hold their nose and vote for him in good conscience, but also the undecided who will see a a Republican Party in unison.
At the end of the day she's a Republican, unless she turns in to Liz Cheney she's never going to support a non-Republican candidate, especially as she'll most likely run in 2028Yeah Haley supporting Trump will be just another day in the GOP. They all fall in line no matter how bad he dragged them and their families. That very thing is what got them into the position of being so beholden to this fraud and his cult. Then when they get out of office and want to get their memoir out there and redeem their image for history. They start talking about how awful the rest of them were and none of the GOP really want to actually work.
The difference with the usual. All rally behind the guy who won however. Is we are talking about a proven fraud, and unapologetic liar. A guy literally draining all the resources and who can clearly be tied to their recent election losses with his support of awful extremist candidates. This isn't a matter of a small difference of opinion.At the end of the day she's a Republican, unless she turns in to Liz Cheney she's never going to support a non-Republican candidate, especially as she'll most likely run in 2028
Hmm.... Let's assume Biden is going to do how you suggest. He definitely will win 60k to 80k more votes. However, wouldn't he lose a lot of Jewish voters, whose numbers are much, much higher.Personally I'd like to see him totally tear into Netanyahu, cease supplying anything, cease vetoing. Then when Netanyahu continues to do exactly what he wants, at least it won't be on 'genocide Joe'.