It's a very clever dive. AWB is an idiot for giving him the opportunity for it but VAR is there to detect cheating which has been missed in real-time. It's now failed to do so in three consecutive penalties against United.
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There definitely was time taken for review for Chelsea's second penalty. I think it took about three minutes until it was taken.
Well that should be a red.
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In every other country thats a straight red to Casemiro but nah in England the referee see things differently..
Does anyone have more slows of the Elliott penalty? Looked a dive from the whole one replay they showed.
When you balance it against the 9 games we lost Casemiro for last year for two erroneous red cards, he was due a break.
Apart from Casemiro has had reds for doing nothing wrong multiple times in England too.
Just as well. Can’t be giving out reds for ball winning slide tackles
Thats not a staight red in any country
I only saw it once but I’m unsure, it obviously didn’t effect the result, but it was a bit too much of a lunge for me, but also didn’t create too much contact with the other player. Need to see again.
It's Luis Diaz on the end of it tough. That cnut should've seen a yellow for elbowing Maguire when he lost his nerve during their earlier jostling. Ref was shit pretty much everywhere today.
It was a penalty in my opinion, AWB was daft to go in like that
The ball went out of play, how far out does the ball have to be for a lino to call it.
If we’d had 3 penalties with no contact in a week, Talksport would’ve been slapped with a restraining order
It’s absurd. Let alone talksport - the majority on here think they’re all fecking pens.
When?
I find it weird that no one talks about Elliot not even having any control of the ball when the tackle happened, he passed the ball earlier and pushed his right leg into Bissaka after that. Never a penalty.
https://www.reddit.com/r/reddevils/s/KL9O44lsle
https://www.reddit.com/r/reddevils/s/KL9O44lsle
Right before Casemiro lunged in on Diaz.
Yep. It's a stupid challenge but if var worked they would have overturned it.
This wasn’t a penalty
I think he's played for it but it's a pen. It's another one of those where he leaves the leg in and he's not even moving towards the direction of where he's played the ball.
Yeah his right foot which he moves in an unnatural way to force the contact.
It’s a bad tackle but if you look at the actual contact then it’s never a penalty. I hate when commentators say stuff like Elliot did well to dangle his leg. Football is gone really, all game players are constantly diving
Yeah after the ball is gone and he sticks his leg out to initiate contact. The Harry Kane special.
yeah I thought it was a penalty but watching that a few times, it’s a dive. AWB definitely shouldn’t have went down and gave him the opportunity, but it’s still a dive
Yeh, this “he gave the referee a decision to make” argument is bollox. It’s either a penalty or it’s not. It didn’t look as clear on replays but there seems to be an apathetic “if was a stupid tackle therefore deserved to give away a peno” type attitude.
Making a stupid tackle shouldn’t mean it’s more likely a peno.
Do people think it would have been a pen if it was the other way around? I don’t.
Would people want a pen if it was the other way round though?
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It gets caught there because he plants his foot there despite it being nowhere near where he would need to plant it to keep the ball.
It's obviously a fecking stupid tackle from Bissaka, but Elliot has already played the ball and the only reason he connects with Bissaka is because he dangles his leg. It's a Harry Kane special.
I don't see why they are given when they've again and again talked about players instigating contact
I don't see why they are given when they've again and again talked about players instigating contact
Clear dive. But VAR does nothing. It's just pointless at this stage.
I like how he drags his right foot, but realises that the contact from AWB isn't coming so he unnaturally pushes it to the right to stick it between AWBs legs. All of this while he's already falling over.
Yeah, at first I thought it was a penalty but now after seeing the slow motion reply and zoomed in it's clear that it isn't. Which I thought was the point of VAR.
In super slow motion it's clear he found the contact and dived but alas
I mean the fact it’s in super slow mo surely indicates in real time it may/may not be fishing for contact. Regardless though what on earth is AWB doing diving in and giving him the chance? Stupid defending.
Sums up my thoughts
Klopp would be fuming and Liverpool would be getting an apology from PGMOL if this was given against them.
That’s a penalty. Left foot takes the ball away from AWB’s lunge. Right foot clips AWB twice. First on the foot, then on the upper leg. How is that not a penalty?