I disagree. It still falls under that clear and obvious shite whether he gives it on the pitch or not.
All penalty incidents should go for review as potential pens. It's the only way you'll get consistency or an objective decision.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) was joined by comedian Ali Woods to look back at the best and worst moments of a rollercoaster season with the annual United Hour Awards.
Has Ten Hag been sacked yet? We're not sure and we hope not, but it's looking more likely as the days pass.
Who should replace him and why is it taking so long to make a decision?
All penalty incidents should go for review as potential pens. It's the only way you'll get consistency or an objective decision.
Another game, another dodgy penalty awarded too Arsenal.
Ridiculous pen decision. In real time, it’s understandable. But with VAR, no excuse whatsoever to call that a pen.
If we was in this title race I would be spitting feathers.
Premier League is a joke.
"It was clumsy how he came out"
Irrelevant. It was a blatant fecking dive.
Premier League is a joke.
"It was clumsy how he came out"
Irrelevant. It was a blatant fecking dive.
Quelle surprise. They gave it. Come on now.
Ah well, at least it keeps them ahead of Liverpool and puts a bit of pressure on City
Even in real time it looked like a dive tbh
That is never given to anyone but Arsenal that penalty.
He drags his foot to make contact. VAR have to look at that and notice he is not running naturally and buys a foul.
He drags his foot to make contact. VAR have to look at that and notice he is not running naturally and buys a foul.
I hate to be one of those cnuts that says if that was us etc, but if it was, TNT would be cancelling the second half to analyse the incident
Arsenal definitely deserve to lead, but not sure by this method. I did think it was initiated contact, which is wrong to me.
To be fair, had it been United called a pen for that it wouldn’t have even gone to VAR.
We remain the only sport that rewards cheating so consistently
The Arsenal penalty is barely any different to the one Harvey Elliot got against us not long ago.
How the heck can VAR look at that and not see Havertz has clearly just tripped himself up over the keeper's leg?
VARs not making a decision on the pen. They're deciding if the ref made a clear and obvious error. The ref didn't do that as to him it looked like a pen in real time and you can see how it could have looked that way. If they were making a decision on whether or not Havertz manufactured a pen, the outcome night be different.
That one looks even worse in slow mo.
No contact until matey is already on the way down.
It will be interesting to see what the two Robbies and Rebecca make of that blatant dive. Do they tow the party line? We shall see.
No way we will get the pen in real time and no VAR will be checked
Do not need to dream the TNT thing Well yeah it was clever by Havertz and I agree it shouldn't be a pen but because the ref gave it and there was contact it wasn't going to be over-ruled.
Dragging his feet way before the contact, absolute dive and should’ve been an yellow. Another pathetic VAR decision. The ref’s incompetence is understandable.
I get that, but it was a clear and obvious error. Havertz dragged his foot through the keeper.
This is the problem with VAR, imo. It should be about making the right call, like how they employ video review in US sports.
Funny how pundits are now explaining how VAR perfectly did its job
They don't want refs being over ruled at all it seems. They've raised the bar for what it considered clear and obvious this year. They need to get rid of it. It should just be an objective review for a potential pen.
It looks kind of like the one Rooney got to end the Invincibles, but Rooney didn't even manage to make contact with the defender.
Personally not a fan of these kinds of pens but they are given all the time.
Hilarious how people are missing he blatant knee high red card Christie should have had
I don't think it's a penalty. Also a bournemouth players should've seen a red earlier.
It's still a pen. He wasn't purposely dragging his leg.
HA...the way his left foot stays for so long in that position for the contact to happen is hilarious. I am able to laugh only because it is Arsenal's advantage over Liverpool and City.
It is what it is. But it’s not hard to imagine Arteta’s outrage if that pen were given against Arsenal.
I really think a referee should go and look at any penalties like that. He has clearly instigated contact.
"He sticks his leg out... took advantage of the situation... he's bought that but it's a pen"
Insanity from the geniuses on TNT
Insanity from the geniuses on TNT
Who cares as long as Liverpool are not winning the league!
Then penalty - yes!
Then penalty - yes!
It's definitely soft, but let's not pretend it's all that unusual for it to be given. The keeper dived out feet first directly into the path of an oncoming striker and completely missed the ball.
Also, love the conspiracy theories "oh if it were united, the world would've exploded"
He accidentally dragged his leg in a completely unnatural movement which ensured it made contact with the goalkeeper?
Sounds plausible
True. I recall the young Ronaldo perfecting the dragging foot technique. Pires as well, for which both were savaged as serial divers.
Delusional Arsenal fans almost make me want to wish they lose the game. I shall resist them.
Within the context of how VAR is supposed to work at the moment, it did it's job. But they need to review this incident independently as well beyond the "clear mistake" mind frame. It's a little too adverserial too doing it this way.
That's not a penalty for me, but before VAR that would have been given as well. VAR waa supposed to correct this for me
That's not a penalty for me, but before VAR that would have been given as well. VAR waa supposed to correct this for me
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