Film Martin Scorsese - Marvel movies are 'not cinema'

Since it’s a Scorsese thread, he’s finally doing his Sinatra/Rat Pack movie that’s been mooted to happen forever, with absolutely no surprise who’s playing Sinatra (I wish he’d stop casting him for everything)

 
Since it’s a Scorsese thread, he’s finally doing his Sinatra/Rat Pack movie that’s been mooted to happen forever, with absolutely no surprise who’s playing Sinatra (I wish he’d stop casting him for everything)



Didn't Sinatra have a far deeper voice than Leo? Leo's voice is kind of high-pitched for a man. But I guess good acting plus technology can make it work..
 
no surprise who’s playing Sinatra (I wish he’d stop casting him for everything)

I wonder if Scorsese's insistence on working with the same male leads (de Niro and Dicraprio) throughout his career should be considered a weakness in his abilities as a director?
 
I wonder if Scorsese's insistence on working with the same male leads (de Niro and Dicraprio) throughout his career should be considered a weakness in his abilities as a director?
I'd say its a weakness of more recent movies. Don't object much to De Niro in everything 30+ years ago. Di Caprio was quite good in a lot of his roles too to be fair. Probably a bit harsh to criticise before they start filming (it looks a bad choice to me too).
It seems pretty common too really. David Lynch gets the same actors back again and again. John Carpenter too, Christopher Nolan same, Tarantino and Samuel Jackson. Does Villeneuve?
I'd say those that dont, don't have the draw and reputation to get the same people for everything they film
 
I wonder if Scorsese's insistence on working with the same male leads (de Niro and Dicraprio) throughout his career should be considered a weakness in his abilities as a director?
The Harry Redknapp of directing.
 
I'd say its a weakness of more recent movies. Don't object much to De Niro in everything 30+ years ago. Di Caprio was quite good in a lot of his roles too to be fair. Probably a bit harsh to criticise before they start filming (it looks a bad choice to me too).
It seems pretty common too really. David Lynch gets the same actors back again and again. John Carpenter too, Christopher Nolan same, Tarantino and Samuel Jackson. Does Villeneuve?
I'd say those that dont, don't have the draw and reputation to get the same people for everything they film

Don't get me wrong he's technically excellent and I'm a big fan of his work but to me a director should also be able to work effectively with different leads and he hadn't really shown that. The only anomalies I can think of are Daniel Day Lewis in The Age of Innocence and Willem Dafoe in The Last Temptation of Christ.
 
Don't get me wrong he's technically excellent and I'm a big fan of his work but to me a director should also be able to work effectively with different leads and he hadn't really shown that. The only anomalies I can think of are Daniel Day Lewis in The Age of Innocence and Willem Dafoe in The Last Temptation of Christ.
I watched After Hours a couple of months back. Dont know the lead, excellent film and about 1hr and 40 mins that felt like it had more going on than most 3+ hour films. Watch it!

imdb link
 
He's very prolific and seems to jump from one project to the other in no time. Perhaps, he just wants to work with people who know him and what he expects on his sets to get things done without much fuss. And one of his post-2000 films that didn't feature either Leo or De Niro is, IMHO, his later era masterpiece. He can deliver.
 
The only anomalies I can think of are Daniel Day Lewis in The Age of Innocence and Willem Dafoe in The Last Temptation of Christ.
Hugo in 2011 and Silence in 2016 had Adam Driver, Andrew Garfield and Liam Neeson as the main characters.

Also long time ago now but Bringing Out the Dead from 1999 had Nic Cage as the lead.
 
Hugo in 2011 and Silence in 2016 had Adam Driver, Andrew Garfield and Liam Neeson as the main characters.

Also long time ago now but Bringing Out the Dead from 1999 had Nic Cage as the lead.

Up to six now, still three quarters of the time he's working with the same couple of actors.Maybe as TRDA says he's particular and wants to work a certain way with people who understand him but it's still a bit odd and for me kind of detracts from the body of work.*

*It doesn't help that I'm not a fan of one of those actors.
 
Up to six now, still three quarters of the time he's working with the same couple of actors.Maybe as TRDA says he's particular and wants to work a certain way with people who understand him but it's still a bit odd and for me kind of detracts from the body of work.*

*It doesn't help that I'm not a fan of one of those actors.
@Dirty Schwein I think he's dissing nic cage. Get em
 
Steve Buscemi in Boardwalk Empire, Kundun, Color of Money and Alice Doesn't Live Her Anymore with Kris Kritofferson can be added to the list.
 
Steve Buscemi in Boardwalk Empire, Kundun, Color of Money and Alice Doesn't Live Her Anymore with Kris Kritofferson can be added to the list.
To be fair, I started from Mean Streets...which was before Alice lolz.
 
Don't get me wrong he's technically excellent and I'm a big fan of his work but to me a director should also be able to work effectively with different leads and he hadn't really shown that. The only anomalies I can think of are Daniel Day Lewis in The Age of Innocence and Willem Dafoe in The Last Temptation of Christ.

DeNiro was going to play Jesus in that too. He’s worked with Nic Cage, Griffin Dunne, Liam Neeson, Paul Newman (and Cruise), others.
 
I watched After Hours a couple of months back. Dont know the lead, excellent film and about 1hr and 40 mins that felt like it had more going on than most 3+ hour films. Watch it!

imdb link

Griffin Dunne? Great actor should have been a lot bigger but think he made a lot of strange choices acting wise.
 
DeNiro was going to play Jesus in that too. He’s worked with Nic Cage, Griffin Dunne, Liam Neeson, Paul Newman (and Cruise), others.

Yes but he's worked with de Niro and Dicraprio about 20 times each. It's weird.
 
Yes but he's worked with de Niro and Dicraprio about 20 times each. It's weird.
it doesn’t bother me in the slightest. Anymore than Wayne/Ford, Washington/Scott, Mifune/Kurosawa, etc does. Directors have their favourite actors. If anything, it’s DeNiro who is benefitting the most as his filmography recently has been iffy. Wes Anderson and Bill Murray will probably continue too.
 
“I’m the devourer of worlds, and this planet Earth is Claimed and Shamed…. Meanwhile, Norin Radd is having trouble with the Tulips on Zenn La…”
 
Yep! He's got an incredible voice but my mind immediately goes to those clips of the original Star Wars before they dubbed Darth Vader s voice.

"Eh by gum, that planet looks delicious".
Lucas did him dirty, he didn't find out he'd been dubbed over until he saw the 1st film :lol:
 
I’m so fecking bored of Ryan Reynolds/Deadpool. The guy is about 5% as funny as he seems to think he is. He should just stick to being a businessman, which he does seem to be good at. What is it about basic, predictable comedy that makes it so wildly popular?