About time if true.
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Season Average Rating
- Appearances
- 50
- Clean sheets
- 11
- Goals
- 0
- Assists
- 0
- Yellow cards
- 1
About time if true.
It's always surprising to me how keepers can just loose their mojo in a couple of months. He used to be great for Inter/Ajax, very commanding and reassurring. How can it disappear so fast? Reminds me of Edouard Mendy.
Great response.
I share this frustration with Onana, but on a broader level I'm really frustrated with how United has been run since Sir Alex retired. Yes, De Gea conceded some howlers and yes, De Gea's ball to Eriksen was atrocious, but he was still a top keeper -- not the top keeper, a top keeper -- who didn't need to be replaced. Yes, his wages were obscene, but he had agreed to a substantial wage reduction at the time we signed Onana, a keeper who is substantially worse as a shot stopper and not substantially better with his feet. United could not have handled the keeper position more poorly than it did.
If De Gea was no longer a tolerable presence in the squad -- and I remember the pitchforks were out here on the caf -- we could have kept Henderson, who is easily a better keeper than Onana.
It was technically Ed Woodward who signed them but still ETH played a major role in bringing those players to Utd. Both of them are equally guilty for singing Onana, Hojlund and Antony for over 200 million pounds.
Paying over 170 million pounds for unproven and young players like Hojlund and Antony was criminal. Even though we needed a replacement for De Gea, he brought with him Onana from Ajax. Onana has made so many howlers and mistakes, it's insane. He costed us in the last year's UCL and this year he might ruin our European journey as well. He has to be the worst Man Utd keeper in our modern history and he's even worse than the likes of Massimo Taibi, Barthez and Roy Carroll.
On a somewhat related note, can anyone think of another instance of a player in the recent past (United or otherwise) talking a cocky big talk before a game, only to produce a disasterclass and end up looking like a tit the way Onana just has?
Very random, but I remember a long time ago, Rustu, the Turkey goalkeeper, said some less-than-complimentary things about Rooney before he had made his United debut, and Rooney duly proceeded to score a European hat-trick. On Debut.
But even that's probably not a like-to-like comparison since he wasn't really directly at fault for any of the goals.
Sure, I have no doubt the likes of Keane, Cantona, Ronaldo, Evra, Rio, RVN have all talked shit from time to time, but those guys were 1. World class players to begin with who could back up their cockiness and walk the talk on the field, and 2. Smart enough to know exactly when and where to stir the pot. You wouldn't, for example, expect Rooney to talk shit about Liverpool before a Cup final, or play down another team before a crunch match when United themselves were in shambles. And mind you, Rooney isn't exactly the brightest bloke himself.
Leaving aside actual scumbags like Greenwood, genuinely can't think of another humiliation and ridicule of this level involving one of our players. For example, Maguire, for all his faults and trolls he faced, generally knew better to keep his mouth shut and not fan the flames. Yeah, there was that cupping his ears sliding celebration after he scored, to "silence" his haters, but I don't think that compares to what Onana just did.
He didn't just end up losing a fight that he started (and nobody wanted), he KOed himself in front of the whole world and fell on his arse like the clueless clown he is.
Awful, awful goalkeeper who we can't get rid of soon enough.
Very random, but I remember a long time ago, Rustu, the Turkey goalkeeper, said some less-than-complimentary things about Rooney before he had made his United debut, and Rooney duly proceeded to score a European hat-trick. On Debut.
But even that's probably not a like-to-like comparison since he wasn't really directly at fault for any of the goals. Sure, I have no doubt the likes of Keane, Cantona, Ronaldo, Evra, Rio, RVN have all talked shit from time to time, but those guys were 1. World class players to begin with who could back up their cockiness and walk the talk on the field, and 2. Smart enough to know exactly when and where to stir the pot. You wouldn't, for example, expect Rooney to talk shit about Liverpool before a Cup final, or play down another team before a crunch match when United themselves were in shambles. And mind you, Rooney isn't exactly the brightest bloke himself.
Leaving aside actual scumbags like Greenwood, genuinely can't think of another humiliation and ridicule of this level involving one of our players. For example, Maguire, for all his faults and trolls he faced, generally knew better to keep his mouth shut and not fan the flames. Yeah, there was that cupping his ears sliding celebration after he scored, to "silence" his haters, but I don't think that compares to what Onana just did.
He didn't just end up losing a fight that he started (and nobody wanted), he KOed himself in front of the whole world and fell on his arse like the clueless clown he is.
Awful, awful goalkeeper who we can't get rid of soon enough.
I didn't mind his initial claims, but you simply have to be able to back it up. Matic buried him, but it's Onana who proved him right literally the same day.
he is a clown and bar 2 months of form he has been a clown since he arrived. very little hope of shaking that reputation off now.
he is a clown and bar 2 months of form he has been a clown since he arrived. very little hope of shaking that reputation off now.
Agree with some of the posts. Mistakes can happen but it's the absolute unnecessary cockiness and for no reason whatsoever. We are 13th in the table and his performances have been nothing great at all. Just shut up and help the team win, not actively rile up the opposition when you can't even raise your standards.
Clown keeper
Clown keeper
He's got to go. I'm done.
If he starts next season, we can kiss the season goodbye.
If he starts next season, we can kiss the season goodbye.
Bye bye Onana.
Or to plead with some rich suitors; buy buy Onana.
Or to plead with some rich suitors; buy buy Onana.
Agreed, I still remember how he ran towards Maguire and gave him an earful in a pre-season friendly 2 years back, he knew Harry's reputation was at low with fans at that time so it was just an attention grabbing antics in a friendly, now the whole team should run to this clown and do the same.
I actually feel sorry for him now. He's become a meme and joke all over social media.
Almost 2 seasons now and he's not proven to be good enough. Imo he was the single reason we finished bottom of the CL group last season, and almost cost us the FA cup too. I think he's had enough time here, time to move on if we can.
Almost 2 seasons now and he's not proven to be good enough. Imo he was the single reason we finished bottom of the CL group last season, and almost cost us the FA cup too. I think he's had enough time here, time to move on if we can.
He’s brought it all on himself. So, unfortunately I can’t feel any sympathy for him. Obviously it’s a bit of a pile in, but that’s what you get when you act all billy big bollks and fail spectacularly to back it up.
I don't understand why he is almost always so slow on the ball when under no pressue. So many times he just taps the ball in front of him and ambles around the area like he has all the time in the world, it's really frustrating to watch.
I get that this is the modern way, but I don't see other keepers doing it the way he does.
I get that this is the modern way, but I don't see other keepers doing it the way he does.
450m euros spent and every single transfer is either terrible and needs replacing or has huge question marks due to their fitness. Horrific.
He’s trying draw in the attacker. But with a co-ordinated press it just often leaves him the option of passing 10 yards sideways to a defender in a worse position. It’s something that used to work, now it doesn’t and he doesn’t know what to do.
On the 1st goal hes trying so hard to push the ball back into the danger area
Yep and all so self inflicted, chasing De Jong all summer and ending up with Casemiro, scouts saying Antony is worth £30 million, but paying 89 million, paying £60 million + for an unproven striker without any established backup, etc.
I mean if we'd signed no one in those 2 windows, but kept De Gea, Henderson, Fred, Elanga, Fernandez, Pereira, Garner, and Martial, would we really have done much worse on the pitch.
I suppose the Glazers would never have looked to sell if we had though, so it all had a point to it in a weird way.
The only decent signings ETH made was in defense. Ugarte maybe being the only logical signing otherwise. Everything else in midfield and attack is a complete dumpster fire of poor decisions.
Woodward was long gone by the time those players were signed.
I don't know, man. Amorim had no problem potentially denting Zirkzee's confidence by hooking him off before half time. I think mollycoddling Onana would be pretty low in his list of priorities.
Disagree. Maz and De Ligt were the exceptions. The rest was pretty awful. Jury still out on Zirkzee. His transfers gave us a worse squad than we had before whilst totally overspending
He's literally costing the club money (and I'm not talking about the wages and all the financial packages associated with playing for the club). He's the lone reason we didn't qualify for the KOs of UCL last season as few here have pointed out. He's also a major reason for our position on the league table this season and the last. His quality, or lack thereof alongside with his unjustified arrogance makes him extremely dislikeable. Get rid!
Yes i also remember how he was quick to get on Maguire’s back in that pre season game. What goes around comes around.
I agree that the 2nd mistake is forgivable in isolation but it happens far too regularly with Onana. If that's a once a season occurrence and he's otherwise solid, you're OK with it...but he's proven time and time again he has technical and mental flaws that cause frequent mistakes.
I was reluctant to go too hard on Onana when the team as a collective was badly underperforming because it felt like a kop-out, an easy excuse. However, now it's clear that him and Hojlund are the two biggest leaks, in terms of points, by a country mile
There's a difference between making a sub during a match (because you feel you have to) and explaining something (which can do in whichever way you choose).
This stupid prat cost us tens of millions of pounds in lost revenue last season in the Champions League and is now fecking up any chance of getting there next season and the financial benefits that come with it. Amorim needs sacking if he continues playing this twat.
There's definitely some parrallels
I don't think Onana's a great keeper, but he's also obviously not as bad as his current form. Has had a dreadful run and it shows no signs of stopping. Instead of oozing confidence, he's taken the 'I'll be cocky and act like everything's fine' approach and it isn't working. The time wasting, dilly dallying on the ball, making a right mess of simple saves. It's all a mental battle, and one he's clearly losing.
Personally I don't think he has the mentality to turn it around under the massive spotlight at United. I'm quite amazed he hasn't been taken out of the firing line, it's costing us very dearly.
Personally I don't think he has the mentality to turn it around under the massive spotlight at United. I'm quite amazed he hasn't been taken out of the firing line, it's costing us very dearly.
If I'm a Lyon player next week, I'm just hitting it on target from anywhere. There's a good chance it'll go in or someone will knock it in on the rebound.
I don’t think the squad rate him. The back line seem nervous about him and it’s quite obvious when you watch them play. It’s pretty criminal what he did before the Lyon game on the back of his time at United - if I was a player in this team I’d be fuming about him.
Absolute liability and his good performances have been few and far between.
Unless Saudi come in for him we are stuck with him. Needs dropping for the rest c the season to force him out.
Absolute liability and his good performances have been few and far between.
Unless Saudi come in for him we are stuck with him. Needs dropping for the rest c the season to force him out.
Yep. Maguire hooked it out for a throw in late in the 2nd despite Onana calling he had it
Ruben has shown he can be ruthless e.g. ousting Rashy, but seems to have a blind spot towards this guy, and Dalot and Rasmus (although with the latter 2 it's possibly a case of limited options)
I know Altay isn't amazing, but if he's fit surely he can't be any worse, and after the Tottenham disaster had a good game against Arsenal in the cup so at least try him, if he continues to play Onana it could be the hill he dies on
The guy cost us getting out the CL group stages last season, and could well get us knocked out of the EL, when we desperately need the money winning it could bring
He then makes his blunders even more unforgivable because he ran his mouth pre game and right before the 2nd blunder, was taunting the Lyon fans
Get rid
I know Altay isn't amazing, but if he's fit surely he can't be any worse, and after the Tottenham disaster had a good game against Arsenal in the cup so at least try him, if he continues to play Onana it could be the hill he dies on
The guy cost us getting out the CL group stages last season, and could well get us knocked out of the EL, when we desperately need the money winning it could bring
He then makes his blunders even more unforgivable because he ran his mouth pre game and right before the 2nd blunder, was taunting the Lyon fans
Get rid
He has single handedly cost us so many games since the Fald Broad signed him.
On a somewhat related note, can anyone think of another instance of a player in the recent past (United or otherwise) talking a cocky big talk before a game, only to produce a disasterclass and end up looking like a tit the way Onana just has?
Very random, but I remember a long time ago, Rustu, the Turkey goalkeeper, said some less-than-complimentary things about Rooney before he had made his United debut, and Rooney duly proceeded to score a European hat-trick. On Debut.
Rabiot about Yamal before the Euro semi final clash. Said Yamal needs to do a lot more. Yamal turned him and curled it into the top corner
I don’t think it’s a blind spot, but given both our reserve keepers were injured for a few months - and let’s be honest Bayindor is not banging down the door like some no 2s, and there was no money in Jan, I’m not sure what the manager could have done.
He inherited this liability.
You will see how ruthless he is this summer
Fingers crossed, hope the owners/powers that be support him and enable him to be ruthless
I think both him and Ineos will be ruthless this summer
Honestly amazes me how ignorant posters are. How can they still think Woodward was at the club by then?