There’s zero percent chance we sell him, unless he hands in a transfer request (he won’t).
Bruno Fernandes Out? | Staying at Man United
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1 billion, interstellar travel and a nice IPA that's not too fruity.
I can’t see him wanting to move there.
I'd be surprised if he wanted to go to Saudi. Doesn't feel like he's wired that way and he's playing the best football of his life currently.
If they offer him over 1m a week and he's willing, then I could definitely see INEOS being willing to cash in on an absurd offer (think 120m+).
If they offer him over 1m a week and he's willing, then I could definitely see INEOS being willing to cash in on an absurd offer (think 120m+).
The irony...
Which player of note left a fanbase stunned to go to Saudi Arabia?
From around 240k to somewhere around 300k PER WEEK is a modest raise for you?! If you have something to do around the house, I am all up lending you a hand for a modest compensation
I feel you may be unfairly upping the ante here.
If he wanted money, he would have left us months ago. I think Bruno is a hopeless romantist and wants to get us back to the top.
I get the love for Bruno Fernandes, he’s been a talisman for us, no question. But clinging to him when Saudi clubs are offering £100m+ is shortsighted and risky. At 31, Bruno’s at an age where decline can hit fast. Look at Kevin De Bruyne: whose injuries and inconsistent form over the last two seasons shows how quickly things can change. Bruno’s relentless energy and creativity are exceptional, but they’re not immune to time. His best form has carried United to top 4, FA Cup and potentially EL but let’s be honest, this squad isn’t challenging for the Premier League or Champions League with him as the centerpiece.
That £100m+ will greatly accelerate and transform our suqad rebuild earlier than anticipated. Imagine reinvesting it in three to four high-potential players (assuming we get £100m lump sum). this squad has glaring holes and we lack quality and depth in attack. Cashing in on Bruno now, while his value is sky high, lets us address these issues and build a balanced squad for the next five years.
Holding onto a £100m asset whose value could plummet in 12 months is a massive gamble. Look at Casemiro whose form nosedived shortly after joining us and stuck with a high wage player we can’t shift. With smart recruitment (and let’s hope INEOS nails this), that £100m+ could bring in players who elevate us beyond the top 4 we’ve been settling for.
Sell Bruno, reinvest, and let’s build a squad that competes at the elite level again.
That £100m+ will greatly accelerate and transform our suqad rebuild earlier than anticipated. Imagine reinvesting it in three to four high-potential players (assuming we get £100m lump sum). this squad has glaring holes and we lack quality and depth in attack. Cashing in on Bruno now, while his value is sky high, lets us address these issues and build a balanced squad for the next five years.
Holding onto a £100m asset whose value could plummet in 12 months is a massive gamble. Look at Casemiro whose form nosedived shortly after joining us and stuck with a high wage player we can’t shift. With smart recruitment (and let’s hope INEOS nails this), that £100m+ could bring in players who elevate us beyond the top 4 we’ve been settling for.
Sell Bruno, reinvest, and let’s build a squad that competes at the elite level again.
If we can get north of £60m for him we will pull the trigger for sure, as long as he’s open to a move.
Three Dorgus duh.
It is pretty clear the poster was referring to the percentage difference in his wage from one contract to the next. In the context of elite footballers signing new contracts, it wasn't much of a huge increase.
If he's offered £80 million a year, like some are reporting, that would surely be hard to turn down for anyone. No less a 31 year old. He's my favourite player since Eric, but we're would be getting into a discussion of stupid money that I dont know if Ratcliffe and the Glazers would ever turn away, sadly. They'd have to do something very special in the transfer market to replace him,
^^ based on all the claims that sums north of 120 million wouldn't be enough, I'd say stunned is a fine description. But it was a genuine question, was there any suprise move to Saudi Arabia, from players who were already at the highest level and wanted around the biggest leagues? I can't really remember any...
So a 25%+ raise then is modest? Or do I misinterpret your post?
Head and heart and all this. All the mathematical arguments in the world won’t make it feel right.
First two names that spring to mind where many fans didn't expect the player to go, for different reasons, were Henderson and Duran. Lot of scousers thought Jordan had more morals than that and the Villa fans thought Duran had more desire to play top level football. They were wrong though! Football players really like money.
Ideally we agree a fee for next summer even on a reduced fee (75 million).
Would sell for 120-150m. I would cry that day though
I had a look as well and have seen Dhuran and Diaby as well. Both were very promising youngsters, even though I'd say far from Brunos standing. Henderson would be a good shout, but wasn't he a bit of a part timer already when he moved?
Where would you find 3 or 4 players for 100m who also elevate United to top 4 and beyond?
Wasn’t there a fairly rated and talented Spaniard - Gabri Veiga or something, who left from Celta Vigo to the Saudi league at 21 or so - when he was being linked to a few of Europe’s bigger clubs?
Toney is there as well.
What would it say about us as a club if after finishing 15th and having scored less than 45 goals in the league we sell our one good attacker?
Toney was out of favor though wasn't he? I'd say Laporte would be a good shout. I checked the name you mentioned, hadn't heard about him before, but you are right, moved up from 3 to 30 million in market value within a year at Celta and then moved to Saudi Arabia at the age of 21.
Honestly 200m or feck off
I have said in the post that I am assuming we get a £100m+ lump sum as opposed to installments, so potentially and I am no expert in FSR we could get three to four £50m level players with installments.
Yes you can turn it down when Amorim is told it won’t be fully reinvested into new signings .
There is no room for sentiment in football. Bruno Fernandes should absolutely stay at the club in almost all circumstances, however if a British record fee of 120m comes in, then it would be madness not to consider it for a player who is 30 years old. That money could be used to completely retool our squad, given that it represent pure profit under sustainability rules. That could be converted into Ederson, Cunha and Osimhen, and on an accounting basis we'd make a profit this summer.
I don't want Bruno to leave the club, not by any stretch, but we all know that if Fergie was in charge, this is exactly the sort of sale he would make and reinvest it incredibly well. I think the decisive factor here is whether we will use the money well or not. Theoretically we could sell Bruno for 120m, plus Rashford, Sancho, Antony, release Eriksen, Lindelof, Evans, Sell Onana, and sign Joan Garcia for 21m, a quality ball playing CB, Ederson, another wide player, Cunha, Osimhen, and a young talent like Cerkhi or Dibbling, and still come out ahead financially. And have a much, much better squad.
The problem for this club for a long time has been recruitment, whereby making a sale like this makes no sense because you know the club will waste the money. I have a much greater sense of optimism about our current recruitment team, as well as our resistance to paying over the top fees and wages. So the idea of selling a 30 year old Bruno for 120m isn't one that scares me in the way it would before. All that said, I will be delighted if he stays.
I don't want Bruno to leave the club, not by any stretch, but we all know that if Fergie was in charge, this is exactly the sort of sale he would make and reinvest it incredibly well. I think the decisive factor here is whether we will use the money well or not. Theoretically we could sell Bruno for 120m, plus Rashford, Sancho, Antony, release Eriksen, Lindelof, Evans, Sell Onana, and sign Joan Garcia for 21m, a quality ball playing CB, Ederson, another wide player, Cunha, Osimhen, and a young talent like Cerkhi or Dibbling, and still come out ahead financially. And have a much, much better squad.
The problem for this club for a long time has been recruitment, whereby making a sale like this makes no sense because you know the club will waste the money. I have a much greater sense of optimism about our current recruitment team, as well as our resistance to paying over the top fees and wages. So the idea of selling a 30 year old Bruno for 120m isn't one that scares me in the way it would before. All that said, I will be delighted if he stays.
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It would say that the club acknowledges its dire position and at least considers making difficult decisions. Obviously it is a risk. But not doing anything (i.e. not taking chances when they present themselves to you carries risks as well)
Bingo!
That being said, I think it is absolutely understandable to be skeptical about our club being capable of doing so.
Pay off the club's debt, otherwise no thanks.
Have you seen the contracts we've been handing out to other players? Also when you factor in that he's one of the best midfielders in the world, who has been consistently brilliant for us for years, then it seemed uncharacteristic for United to only give him an increase from 240k to around 300k a week.
your last sentence answers the question why we should not sell him.. I'm very sceptical whether we could get a good successor. And it's not even about the scouting skills, but rather that I think a) there are not many players of Bruno's level (not only his football level but also his leadership, passion and the fact that he's never injured and can play 70 games a season) and b) other clubs will know that we have money and won't give us their players for cheap.
Can’t see it happening, he’s already an extremely wealthy man and he has more than enough money to last him and his family for the rest of their lives. He’s one of the rare modern day footballers that isn’t driven by greed, winning a Premiership title or a champions league with us would mean more to him than any amount to money.
If you look at United's recruitment over the past decade, and that goes for managers too. I completely agree that you'd have almost zero trust in the club, especially right now under INEOS who've made blunder and blunder, to find a replacement for Bruno.
What's this £60m clause downplayed? feck off
We would probably end up finally signing Frenkie de Jong and give him a 350k contract only for him to struggle with the EPL physicality and become a flop
This is the only assurance we could have that this transfer would benefit the club in the end.Pay off the club's debt, otherwise no thanks.
It's a moot point if he doesn't want to go to Saudi, and frankly why would he? He already earns a packet here playing against (maybe not with) world class players every week.
Honestly though, if we sell him the first call for his replacement surely has to be Palmer right?
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