Ruben Amorim - Manchester United Head Coach

The thing that will kill Amorims career at United is there is too many players who don't have brains. Garnacho is one, Dorgu looks likes he's another, Hojlund.

Amad comes on, turns the game around on its head, something Garnacho could never do. Garnacho stutters like a bad broadband connection when he sees someone in front of him. His finishing is poor. Hojlund, do we really need to go there?

Dorgu is fast and strong but outside that, hes not shown much else. Time may tell but at the moment I have my reservations.

Casemiro, Amad, Bruno and hopefully a fit Mount are key to winning the EL.
 
And that’s why one needs to wait for the entire game to finish. Amad’s introduction changed the entire game. Get in more such quality players and we will look like a completely different team.
 
davidmichael said:
Once the subs were on it showed even more so that Bruno in this system is better as a midfield orchestrator with two mobile 10’s and the striker ahead of him, Bruno needs the game fully in front of him and we need creativity in midfield so it just makes so much sense.
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But only if he has a complimentary midfielder next to him
 
I'm asking for one more, brother. Just one more. Please bring the Europa home. Please
 
soapythecat said:
I don’t think I’ll be ever convinced by this system. Exposed over and over again.
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With players that can not play this system, i’ll reserve my judgement for when he has been backed, had a pre season and time to implement. I’d be furious if i was brought into any role in similar circumstances and judged the same way.
 
SungSam7 said:
The thing that will kill Amorims career at United is there is too many players who don't have brains. Garnacho is one, Dorgu looks likes he's another, Hojlund.

Amad comes on, turns the game around on its head, something Garnacho could never do. Garnacho stutters like a bad broadband connection when he sees someone in front of him. His finishing is poor. Hojlund, do we really need to go there?

Dorgu is fast and strong but outside that, hes not shown much else. Time may tell but at the moment I have my reservations.

Casemiro, Amad, Bruno and hopefully a fit Mount are key to winning the EL.
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Garnacho could be better as a winger. Doesn’t fit this formation
 
Delighted for him, but this tread will be another cesspit when we play the under 12s against West ham at the weekend and lose.
 
Really hope he gets it right for spurs, as we've lost to them a few times
 
SungSam7 said:
The thing that will kill Amorims career at United is there is too many players who don't have brains. Garnacho is one, Dorgu looks likes he's another, Hojlund.

Amad comes on, turns the game around on its head, something Garnacho could never do. Garnacho stutters like a bad broadband connection when he sees someone in front of him. His finishing is poor. Hojlund, do we really need to go there?

Dorgu is fast and strong but outside that, hes not shown much else. Time may tell but at the moment I have my reservations.

Casemiro, Amad, Bruno and hopefully a fit Mount are key to winning the EL.
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In fairness to Dorgu he should have had an assist early on with that Garnacho chance.
 
Escobar said:
But only if he has a complimentary midfielder next to him
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Definitely mate and it’s why Ugarte always looks better alongside Bruno as Ugarte can just do the ball winning and lay the ball off to Bruno to dictate instead of Ugarte having to play with the ball more when alongside Casemiro, the ideal person would be Wharton who’s very Carrick like in having plenty of steel that goes under the radar due to being seen as more of a defensive playmaker.
 
Can't believe we won 7-1 while playing with 7 at the back and a rigid system.
 
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If he gets the blame for the PL results, he certainly gets the credit for getting us to the EL final.

We need to start better in the final than what we did tonight, and with potentially more players available I'm looking forward to seeing how he will line up. The Ugarte/Casemiro combo doesn't work for me - not enough ball playing ability.
 
DSG said:
Doubling down again. With CBs that can get forward and a real striker and good 10s, why can’t it work?
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They'll shout about the system till they're blue in the face but that's all they know how to do. None of them can tell you specifically from a tactical and player instruction point of view what's causing things to go wrong. It's painfully obvious to anyone that has played a lick of organized football at any level that our problems are mostly psychological, and have been for a while. Players panic with the ball, have no confidence, and are hesitant with and without the ball because the first thought in their mind is not fecking up rather than just executing. There's also the small matter of the impossibility of completely implementing a system to the extent that it's second nature in this limited amount of time coming in mid-season. The blind ignorance in this thread is astounding. What will make or break Amorim here is changing that mentality.
 
Really positive subs, we suddenly looked like a fluid football team with Amad and Dorgu Shaw Mount.
 
I thought his substitutes changed the game this evening. He knew we needed a change and did it at pretty much the right time. This is a great result over two legs, but the performance particularly in the first half in the first leg and the second half in the second leg were very good. When this team want to, they can play great football.
 
TrivelaDeBruno said:
They'll shout about the system till they're blue in the face but that's all they know how to do. None of them can tell you specifically from a tactical and player instruction point of view what's causing things to go wrong. It's painfully obvious to anyone that has played a lick of organized football at any level that our problems are mostly psychological, and have been for a while. Players panic with the ball, have no confidence, and are hesitant with and without the ball because the first thought in their mind is not fecking up rather than just executing. There's also the small matter of the impossibility of completely implementing a system to the extent that it's second nature in this limited amount of time coming in mid-season. The blind ignorance in this thread is astounding. What will make or break Amorim here is changing that mentality.
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There was a question earlier in the thread about the formation and how can it be better than a 4-3-3, which I answered. It’s all about formation with and without the ball, in the defensive third and in attack.

It’s not about the formation thrown up before the match begins, it’s about quality of players, the right attributes for those players, and mentality.
 
That second half illustrated for me how well this team can play when we have good footballers on the pitch that can use the ball well.
 
Posh Red said:
That second half illustrated for me how well this team can play when we have good footballers on the pitch that can use the ball well.
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And when we are not filling the majority of the team with defenders.
 
Didn’t look at this thread during the game. The usual suspects again having a meltdown at halftime, and then vanishing when we batter them. Starting to think they’re just trolls, at this stage.
 
TrivelaDeBruno said:
They'll shout about the system till they're blue in the face but that's all they know how to do. None of them can tell you specifically from a tactical and player instruction point of view what's causing things to go wrong. It's painfully obvious to anyone that has played a lick of organized football at any level that our problems are mostly psychological, and have been for a while. Players panic with the ball, have no confidence, and are hesitant with and without the ball because the first thought in their mind is not fecking up rather than just executing. There's also the small matter of the impossibility of completely implementing a system to the extent that it's second nature in this limited amount of time coming in mid-season. The blind ignorance in this thread is astounding. What will make or break Amorim here is changing that mentality.
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Mentality is certainly one element but a lack of quality in key areas is a much bigger one. And please let's not pretend that playing Sunday league makes anyone a better judge of a team's flaws.
 
Looked like it would be a slog but great subs and a lovely positivity following us into the final. Pray we can get it over the line.
 
Much more positive after the subs. We need to start being braver with the team selection, he can’t afford to get it wrong in the final.
 
Pickle85 said:
Mentality is certainly one element but a lack of quality in key areas is a much bigger one. And please let's not pretend that playing Sunday league makes anyone a better judge of a team's flaws.
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I think some of us have played high levels, into our 20s on lower league teams, semi pro, etc. “Better judge” is somewhat subjective depending on where you land in the debate. There is a massive gap with Sunday league and playing on a team with professional coaches, national team players etc.
 
Deserves more credit for the way he manages player fitness.

ETH ran these players into the ground, Amorim seems to know exactly when players are reaching their limits and is even quite vocal about it.
 
Beating Bilbao 7-1 on aggregate is not something any of us really saw coming. Credit where it’s due for a European final in his first season.

He’s got some big decisions to make with the squad options he now has. The starting line ups have been pretty easy to predict, mostly. He now has Mount and Amad coming into form, a decision on Ugarte and Bruno to make and possibly a choice of wingbacks to make if Dalot is fit. Wouldn’t rule out De Ligt either if it’s not a bad injury.
 
DSG said:
I think some of us have played high levels, into our 20s on lower league teams, semi pro, etc. “Better judge” is somewhat subjective depending on where you land in the debate. There is a massive gap with Sunday league and playing on a team with professional coaches, national team players etc.
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But playing at a higher level doesn't automatically make you a better assessor of the game. Look at almost every television pundit.
 
Woodzy said:
Deserves more credit for the way he manages player fitness.

ETH ran these players into the ground, Amorim seems to know exactly when players are reaching their limits and is even quite vocal about it.
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Yep, not rushed players back into starting lineups but managed their recuperation and gradually brought them in. Hopefully it'll pay off in the final as Shaw, Mount and Diallo can transform this team if they're fit and match sharp.
 
Wrong thread for this, but too lazy to find the right one.

Big Dave has been fantastic in the Fiorentina Betis tie as has Antony. Where would we be with those two in the squad?
 
He just needs to be more attacking with his team selections, injuries has maybe forced his hand, but now we are getting some attackers back he has to go with it.

We’re ten times better with a more attacking team on the pitch. The formation isn’t that much of an issue then.
 
DSG said:
Wrong thread for this, but too lazy to find the right one.

Big Dave has been fantastic in the Fiorentina Betis tie as has Antony. Where would we be with those two in the squad?
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DDG is infinitely better than what we have now, Antony isn’t missed
 
I really do hope he is learning that being more adventurous in both set-up and selection will always be the way forward here.
 
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