He did have to adjust slightly because it took a nick off the defender as it went through his legs, in slow motion it looks very weird but at full pace i can understand the weirdness
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Season Average Rating
- Appearances
- 52
- Goals
- 10
- Assists
- 2
- Yellow cards
- 2
He did have to adjust slightly because it took a nick off the defender as it went through his legs, in slow motion it looks very weird but at full pace i can understand the weirdness
Yeah I thought it was an odd finish, he has the entire net to aim at but instead prods it almost right at the keeper. But you're right, there's a deflection on the pass from Amad so Hojlund has to adjust.
It's still a sitter but it was slightly more difficult that it first looked.
His all around play is definitely better (which is not hard when it was on the floor before) but he's definitely not winning all/most or many of his aerials. He's trying more but it still a fairly pitiful rate imo.
I’d be interested to see the aerial dual stats. At the very least he’s gone from winning none to winning some. Plus he seems to be getting his head to the ball more in general.
My main problem with Hojlund isn't even his goal record, it's his hold up play. I'm sure he would score more goals in a more functional team but he's got a crap touch and gets knocked off the ball too easily for his size, so he's consistently giving the ball away when it's played into him. That's why he's not going to make it here unless he improves dramatically.
We've finally reached the slagging him off for scoring stage. Might be peak caf, this.
Hopefully setting him up for his final appearance for the club. Terrible player.
Would of course love it if he saved one goal for the final, but he’s a rare case of being a centre forward who nobody goes into a game expecting to score a goal. I hope Zirkzee can somehow make it back to feature.
Would of course love it if he saved one goal for the final, but he’s a rare case of being a centre forward who nobody goes into a game expecting to score a goal. I hope Zirkzee can somehow make it back to feature.
I’m not sure if I’d start him vs Spurs. I can’t see him getting anything out of Romero/VdV.
I do wonder about playing Mount as a false 9 with Garnacho & Amad either side. Garnachos runs in behind will be needed to get us up the park.
I do wonder about playing Mount as a false 9 with Garnacho & Amad either side. Garnachos runs in behind will be needed to get us up the park.
Capital P.
Still looked more like it hit off him. But he did get into the position so that's a positive
I've been a big advocate and I like him and want him to succeed but I don't see a future world class player there. At all.
By virtue of trying, it's helps as we can at least challenge or counter press on the 2nd ball but yeah imo he still needs to improve massively. My issue with him on aerials is that he doesn't even necessarily need to win it all out like how Maguire may do, he just needs to lean in at the right time and jump high enough to get them off balance. However, far too often, he doesn't even try to affect the ball. It's such an 'easy' fix that I find it frustrating why none of the coaches have told him.
It's the same with his hold up play, he doesn't need to be slick with his first touch and bring others in like Benzema/Lewandowski, just getting it back into the direction of his team mates is a big progressive play already. He seems to be doing that to an 'okay' (for his standards) rate for now.
So which is it? I’m trying to get some info just home from work, and the caf never disappoints!
1/4 (25%) aerial duels won tonight.
6/24 (25%) in the 5 games previous.
And he's sitting at 25% for the season. Very numerically pleasing.
Unfortunately he seems to be regressing to me. I thought he showed promise last season but his confidence looks shot to me. A new one for him tonight was trying to hold off a defender 5 yards away from the ball, only to see another defender just step in and take the ball before it even got to him.
He’s just completely lost sight of what he needs to be doing for me and I don’t know why the coaches aren’t sorting it. For me, in those situations, you hold the defender off and then move to the ball, buying yourself half a yard. You can’t stand still. And another aspect that’s missing is running the channels. So many good attackers will check their run once or even twice and spin in behind instead, to keep the defenders guessing. He does none of this now, and he looked more dangerous last season when he was doing this.
It just feels like he’s somehow got tunnel vision in termd of trying to out wrestle the CB and forgot the basics of being a CF or even just a footballer at times. It’s also a game of wits, and you need to find ways to outsmart your opponent to create space. A CBs dream is to play against a guy that doesn’t move and wants to make it into a test of strength, especially when he’s not that physically imposing.
He’s just completely lost sight of what he needs to be doing for me and I don’t know why the coaches aren’t sorting it. For me, in those situations, you hold the defender off and then move to the ball, buying yourself half a yard. You can’t stand still. And another aspect that’s missing is running the channels. So many good attackers will check their run once or even twice and spin in behind instead, to keep the defenders guessing. He does none of this now, and he looked more dangerous last season when he was doing this.
It just feels like he’s somehow got tunnel vision in termd of trying to out wrestle the CB and forgot the basics of being a CF or even just a footballer at times. It’s also a game of wits, and you need to find ways to outsmart your opponent to create space. A CBs dream is to play against a guy that doesn’t move and wants to make it into a test of strength, especially when he’s not that physically imposing.
He’s useless, even as depth. If we have a different striker and need a late goal, I’d be 100% more confident in Maguire coming on to play centre forward than Hojlund. Last season we didn’t have Zirkzee, and even in competition with himself, he managed to end the season out of the team with Fernandes and Mount instead playing upfront together (this is his season which is commonly referred to as ‘very impressive’ around here).
If a player isn’t good enough to be here, there’s no use for them to be here. The minimum bar for all players, even bench players should at least be good enough to represent the club. Hojlund quite clearly falls below that.
If De Ligt is fit, in a straight choice, I would honestly rather start Maguire up front than Hojlund in the final.
Thanks! Don’t see much hope for him I’m afraid.
9 goal involvements in 14 Europa league games this season is a decent return.
Me too.
You know a striker isn’t doing that well when people start talking about goal involvements instead of just goals
Somehow made it to 10 goals in all competitions this season...
Yeah, no chance. He looks like a competition winner at times, fans were getting on his back a bit too
I think playing Mount and Amad trying to play balls in for Garnacho would be better.
Garnacho would miss 3 in 5 chances but he makes 5 chances only because his movement is brilliant.
I don't see Amorim suddenly changing a tactic to stop playing a traditional number 9 though & expect Hojlund to start, it kind of took him a whilst to use Zirkzee being a false 9 player aswell, so suddenly playing Mount or Garna is unlikely.
Hardworker, physically good (although he doesn't know how to use it yet), and decent finisher. Eventually he'll have a decent career as footballer/striker, but unfortunately he's far away of what United need in short- and mid-term.
100% agree, he is completely useless, any interaction he ends up on the floor. Moves break down soon as they get near him.
He doesn't bring others into play. Doesn't create for others, doesn't stretch defences, doesn't cause even the slightest problem to defenders. Doesn't work hard defensively or effectively.
He can't fashion a shot for himself because he doesn't have good movement or the ability to create even a half yard of space because he is too busy trying to trap the ball.
The difference in simple technical ability between him and someone like Amad or Mount even, is stark.
This is a club used to demanding more from players of Berbatov's ilk yet we have people calling any of Hojlund's 'performances' good or improving. If he played for another club and we were linked to him, most would think we'd gone insane. He is easily bottom 3 strikers in the league.
I would just start Mount up top or something and have Amad and Garnacho behind with Case and Bruno in midfield. Tottenham are there to be gotten at and we can't afford to go into it with a passenger.
Hopefully we sign a couple of quality forwards then people will remember a striker is actually meant to be quite a useful piece that actually affects games.
In 20 games in Europe (CL and Europa), Hojlund has scored 11 goals and provided 3 assists. This is not a 1 season fluke as these numbers have been generated over 2 seasons.
These are not the numbers of an incompetent clueless striker.
Man Utd has just not figured out a formula for the premier league and he suffers because of that. We play better in Europa and he does better there.
These are not the numbers of an incompetent clueless striker.
Man Utd has just not figured out a formula for the premier league and he suffers because of that. We play better in Europa and he does better there.
We didn’t play better in the UCL. The Europa opposition is a significant drop in both quality and physicality of the opponent.
Bilbao and Lyon will beat a bunch of PL teams though.
Don't let this guy get stale here, take whatever we can get for him and move on.
Nothing more to be said really
Nothing more to be said really
He has done ok is this competition, stepped up with important goals (6) and assists (3)
I'll like a 9 that can score Mount first, Casemiro goal and still score the scrappy tap in, at the same time has the hold up play to be an attacking outlet for the team. Hojlund is never that player in a million years. Loan so he can do an Antony in a foreign league and then sell when his stock increases.
That's actually quite impressive
So hasn't improved at all. People see what they want to see. Everybody said this would happen, gets a couple of scarily tap ins and people try and justify keeping him
Funny, as one of Hojlunds most brilliant moments for us was when he dribbled and outran VdV
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/moment-rasmus-hojlund-showed-future-28447419
That’s simply false. Whatever you might think of him he’s created far more for his teammates than the other way around. His stretching of defences is what has given Bruno, Garna, Maguire and last season McT space to score - and his physicality is the reason that teams often dedicate both CF’s to cover him, also creating space for others. Lastly, he’s working his ass off.
All this is true.
9 goal involvements in 14 European games. It can't be as bad as you make out.
He has also given Garnacho some fantastic chances with some of his passes but Garnacho missed them all.
Glad he got his goal, but i've been really disappointed with his hold up and build up play. He makes good runs, but on the ball, and with his back to a defender, he takes so many awkward touches.
I can get over the low goals, given we create very little, and some of our wingers seem to refuse to pass to him, but he needs to be better on the ball, hold it up and allow our defense to breathe. He has age and effort on his side, and if he's gonna stay, we need him to be miles better next year.
I can get over the low goals, given we create very little, and some of our wingers seem to refuse to pass to him, but he needs to be better on the ball, hold it up and allow our defense to breathe. He has age and effort on his side, and if he's gonna stay, we need him to be miles better next year.
with yesterday's goal, he is on double digits now with 10 goals & 4 assists in all comps.
He needs to be either sold or just made as a backup to a starting CF.
He needs to be either sold or just made as a backup to a starting CF.
nice to be on the score sheet.
regardless, he has got a midfielder's goal scoring ratio
shall either be sold, loaned or be on the bench next season
regardless, he has got a midfielder's goal scoring ratio
shall either be sold, loaned or be on the bench next season
The only problem with keeping him as backup is that he has generally looked a really poor sub.