More of a general observation.
Viktor Gyökeres
- Thread starter Berbaclass
- Start date
Be interesting to see if Amorim manages to convince Gyokeres to come here, will their opinions on him change.
Is it not a massive red flag he keeps scoring, the price keeps getting lower and still nobody any good is moving for him??
Sesko is a much better fit for Arsenal as he can head the ball
Arsenal obviously prefer sesko. I’m surprised with Chelsea though that they’d choose Delap over Gyokeres.
True. They love a set piece goal
True. Just seen that all the goals Gyokeres scored this season. not one was a header. pretty mad
Ah, you must have seen that video of his last 25 headers as well. That was tragic.
Nope. As long as keeps scoring I could t care less. He’s a fantastic footballer and better than Delap (who I do like) and Sesko.
There was a pretty long feature article on him awhile ago, talking about his rise to stardom. It really started 3 or 4 seasons ago with Coventry. Maybe it was a puff piece, but his mentality to be the best really stood out to me.
There’s a line of reasoning for those who don’t want to buy from “inferior leagues”, but in reality, a lot of excellent strikers came from those leagues: Lewandowski (Poland), Haaland (Austria), Kane (Leicester, Norwich, etc.), Drogba… why is it that a prolific striker in Portugal for 2 seasons is a big gamble versus a kid like Hojlund who had 9 goals in half a season in Serie A? Isak took ages to develop and spent time at Dortmund and Real Sociedad with very little in the way of production. Hi first season at Newcastle was just okay.
We aren’t going to get the sure things right now with our league position and no Europe. Going to have to take a risk.
Amorim isn’t going to change his system. Gyokeres has played that system very effectively. No, he’s not PL proven, but few available strikers are. If we’re not willing to take risks, let’s just close the doors to the club and demolish Old Trafford…
I dunno, I just think we outsmart ourselves sometimes. There are no guarantees in life, and yet we have to try.
Low ball them 40m or Rashford take it or leave it.
Based on what I've seen:
He wins a decent amount of his aerial duels, but he doesn't go up for much. And he is not much of an aerial threat in the box. He doesn't seem like a striker that puts himself about when the ball is in the air.
Yes. He's strong, and holds off defenders well. Turns well on the ball to drive forwards too.
Not the most secure, but not many out and out strikers are.
That is his biggest strength. Most of his goals come after holding off defenders for a considerable time and distance. But he plays in the Portuguese league, so should be taken with a pinch of salt.
I haven't seen enough evidence that suggests it is a strength of his. Infact, it is my biggest concern about him. I rarely see him connecting with crosses in compilations. I'm yet to figure out if it has anything to do with Sporting not putting in many crosses or something else.
Hes going to have a disproportionately large impact on the side just by sheer improvement over how bad Hojlund is. So I'm ok with any top half premier league level striker who suits the system. Hopefully the guy who was competing for the European golden boot despite being in a smaller league where he doesn't get the full coefficient boost is more than that and we can get him! Id be happy with Osimhen too. Decent amount of strikers I'd be happy with.
Please can you explain what is proven more about Osimhen than Gyokeres, as I see this quite a lot.
He has only scored over 20 goals twice. Once in the Turkish league and once in Italy. How does that make him anymore proven? His all around game is not that tidy, I would said less technically sound than Gyokeres.
Really think he is overhyped and in reality they are both a big risk.
The window has not even opened yet so it is a bit early to be making that statement. He is linked to a number of clubs and of course some of this will depend on which players end up where. It does appear he is the second choice for a number of clubs and they won’t all get their first choice so his market will heat up as the alternatives are snapped up.
The only thing that tells you is that he's had injury problems, which is a concern in itself.
Injuries aside, Osimhen has returned between 0.55 and 0.84 goals per 90 for 5 league seasons in a row now, across two different leagues. And before that he returned 0.44 per 90 in France. All of that not counting penalties.
When on the pitch, he's been a better than 1-in-2 goalscorer for half a decade already.
Gyokeres on the other hand has only returned at that sort of rate for two seasons. Both of which have been in the same league (a weaker one than Osimhen made his name in), and at the same club. His entire career up to that point had seen him return at worse rates than Osimhen was managing in France back in the day.
I haven’t actually
Joao Neves just left that league and is now recognised as one of the best midfielders in the world.
By this logic, nobody would buy talent from Portugal.
You also have factors outside of the league: CL and international football. In fact, that is usually the counter argument to worries about performance in weaker leagues.
Hmmmm I’m personally not convinced from watching him that he’s anything special. Certainly not for the financial package he would be demanding.
To be fair thought the striker market at the moment seems to be getting (to quote Frankie Boyle) the least gammy lepper.
is that holjund
Head like a 50p coin.
Lots of heat on twitter about us being interested.
Was my first thought too!
Share !
Probably the way they play to be fair. Arsenal love corners and set pieces. Plus in that league it’s easier to play on the floor and not cross as much.
Seems people are linking him simply because other top clubs are going for other strikers. Not seen anything remotely concrete.
Not quite. Gyokeres can actually score goals and finish with both his feet.
Plus he’s Amorims ex player who knows the system but I think we’ve moved away from signing managers former players now since it didn’t work quite well with ETH
Joao Neves was 18.
Gyokeres is 26 and playing his prime there, it’s an extremely unusual career path.
An opportunity here for us. This market is going to be a merry go round with ST as pretty much everyone except city need a starting ST. If we have to wait to sell players first then that puts us way behind
Of course we're bloody interested our current #9 is Rasmus Hojlund.
He's just not coming.
This happens every time, but there’s essentially never a striker on the market that isn’t a “risk” for one reason or another. Apart from Haaland. People need to accept that though
Which means he got the entirety of his education in Portugal and knew nothing but Portuguese league football before taking a leap in the public consciousness despite being the same player he was picking up plaudits in Portugal.
Gyökeres has a strange career path, yes. He is also 26, 27 by next season, but the glass ceiling people apply states there’s no such thing as late blooming or no history of players his age then going to much bigger leagues and taking to the challenge without much fuss.
Looks like he’s been taking lessons from Hojlund and Lindelof
It’s concerning that he hasn’t got an all-round game for that price
So he comes to the EPL and 'only' scores 20-25 per season...the horror
B2B Mid, an attacking rwb to cover for Amad, and a new consistent keeper, then we could start to dream, but that front 3 should secure European football